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Post by Lightning Rod » September 6th, 2005, 3:34 pm

a quarter ounce of pot lasting for a month?
I wish.

My desire can't be limited.

What could be worse?

Maynard G. Krebbs could die.
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Post by K&D » September 6th, 2005, 3:37 pm

me neither, the part about clay. i can't really say i have a physical addiction, but i am extremely possesive of people. maybe i have an addiction to people?
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Post by Lightning Rod » September 6th, 2005, 3:41 pm

I think you can find a People's Anonymous chapter in a church basement nearby :lol:

PS I just found out that Maynard G. Krebbs died
but you are probably too young to know who he was.
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Post by K&D » September 6th, 2005, 3:47 pm

a guy who actedd like a beatnik for something right?

i wondered about the 1/4th myself, does this guy smoke alone? i never understood smoking alone. seems stupid to me but what do i know.
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Post by Doreen Peri » September 6th, 2005, 3:55 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/0 ... index.html

Bob Denver dies at age 70.

Maynard G. Crebbs - "WORK????"
of Dobie Gillis fame.

Gilligan of Gilligan's Island fame.

Loved him mucho.

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Post by K&D » September 6th, 2005, 4:03 pm

L-rod with his trickery!

i know who Bob Denver is. i don't really connect with him. i mean i've got this little memorial on my board, i've had it for a while. it has George Harrison, Warren Zevon and Hunter S. Thompson. i don't really know Bob Denver like that. i use to have Ken Kesey...what happened to his pic?
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Post by Doreen Peri » September 6th, 2005, 4:27 pm

Well, I don't really know who Warren Zevon is other than he did that one song which I can't remember right now and I'm not at all familiar with Hunter S. Thompson, other than the fact that he stupidly killed himself a few months ago and some in the press tried to promote suicide as a viable option as a result of it.

But I loved Bob Denver.

So, I guess we're even. ;)

I'm not sure what you mean by Lrod trickery. Where trick did he do this time?

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Post by K&D » September 6th, 2005, 5:15 pm

bob denver...he didn't say that he said the name of a character?
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Post by Doreen Peri » September 6th, 2005, 5:19 pm

Oh. I see. Trickery because he called him Maynard G. Crebbs. Yeah, that's a character Bob Denver used to play on the Dobie Gillis show back in the early 60's. Maynard G. Crebbs was a beatnik type guy. Real funny stuff.

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » September 6th, 2005, 5:40 pm

In my "Hollywood Days" when I was first working in LA as a film journalist, I had the great privilege of meeting Jack Arnold and interviewing him for "L'Ecran Fantastique", a french science fiction magazine.


http://www.geocities.com/moviemags/ecran.html

Mr. Arnold was a well-known figure in Hollywood, and worked on many tv and film projects, as director, producer and executive producer. His work consisted, among other things, of "Gilligan" episodes, both as director and producer.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000791/


Through an odd sequence of events and the intervention of some film writer friends of mine, I got a chance to meet Russell Johnson ( the Professor) and Dawn Wells ( Mary Ann) in 1972.

Bob Denver was busted for pot outside Redding, California. I was living in Chico ( about forty miles south of Redding) at the time.

Most viewers of "Dobie Gillis" and "Gilligan's Island" did not know that Bob Denver was a marvelous dialectician, with a particularly convincing English accent, though his Viennese/German accent was also world-class. Denver had also appeared on the stage in professional Shakespeare companies.

His role on "Gilligan's Island", though his best known and loved, actually used only a portion of his considerable talent.



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Post by stilltrucking » September 6th, 2005, 6:26 pm

My memory so fuzzy these days, I think I recognized a lot of the films he directed, but The Mouse That Roared stands out bright in my mind. As if I saw it yesterday. Even though it has been over forty years. I would love to watch right it now. "We will declare war on the United States and lose, then all our troubles will be over." But they screwed up and won. I love that movie it is on my top ten all time best list.

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » September 6th, 2005, 6:37 pm

You are correct, Still:

( and you should read your personal messages)

Mr. Arnold considered that film ( "The Mouse That Roared") his best.

I once held the complete storyboard book for that film in my lap, in Jack Arnold's study.

I was questioning him on the s-f films of the fifties:

The Creature From the Black Lagoon

It Came From Outer Space

and ( his masterpiece)

The Incredible Shrinking Man.


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Post by Axanderdeath » September 6th, 2005, 9:33 pm

Zlatko Waterman wrote:Try these letters on for size, Geoff:

They are short, to the point, and helpful to me, even today.

I first read them when I was 21. They were handed to me by a loving and wise teacher of mine who cared about my development as an artist. I am not comparing the 60-year-old me with him. I would never do that. But without that teacher, and without Rilke, above all, I would never be the writer I became.

Here are some of the greatest pieces of correspondence that exist from a practicing writer to a young apprentice.

Rainer Maria Rilke was one of the greatest writers of the twentieth century, and not just in German. Franz Kappus asked him for advice, sending some of his own work.

As you read, try to see what the older man is trying to convey to the younger.

Good luck, and keep writing.


( link to Rilke's "Letters to a Young Poet")

http://www.sfgoth.com/~immanis/rilke/letter1.html




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The letters look interesting, I read a bit of one—that one had a line about not asking if you were good—fine—about not depending on others for your work to be good. I don’t know what else it gets in to, and I will probably understand it. That does not mean I agree.

One thing I can say is I regret posting this. I don’t want to rely on people, but I would not mind some one to rely on me, and I have been pretty independent at times. I am falling apart—nervous break down. I did not want to ask for help.

Problem.

Now just trying to write crazy to show it is original—why should I do that—what was this about again—oh yes I would of answered right after you posted this I had no money to use the internet—and fuck don’t you feel sorry about that?

I am sorry man, I do not want to be dependant or make people pity me—most of the time—the last couple months, man they have been hard, and if any one was having a harder time than me? Well sorry, but someone was having a harder time than you—every one does, and every one bitches about!

I may have little style in my writing—it may not hit you in the face and say—distinct and fresh and real—but it is, and if you can not believe that—hell I will read the letters, may of just made an ass of myself—but I can’t match those women hater post…!
thus spoke G.A.P.

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Post by Marksman45 » September 9th, 2005, 1:48 pm

Although the thread has evolved beyond my previous post, I wish to explicate on what exactly I meant

I didn't mean to imply any sort of "character flaw." I really don't know what that means anymore.

Now, what follows is going to be semantics. Words are a prediliction of mine, so semantics helps me and often leads me along to epiphanies.

"the trick is to realize you don't need it"
"Realize" is a word which here means "to make real."

Now, although a great many people leave their emotions and passions and obsessions and whatnot on autopilot, we *do* have the option to control them manually.

Now, enough of that babbling. blah blahblahblah

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Post by Axanderdeath » September 9th, 2005, 8:37 pm

It is bugging me the aa thing replace one dependancy for another--I asked a guy-it is like a cult aa--I don``t like that about it--he said
no no it is not--we don``t rape children--what I meant was religon--

any way fuck the conversation--I don`t want to be an aa acoholic, and what I have to do is take controll of my own life, I am dependant on you guys, you know

I am going to get a computer and really put a new light on my writing--for myself--try and get something that really is good--although some of my stuff on here is good I think--it could be better.

I am asking around to find an older computer, with word perfect.

oh one thing that aa said to me that really pissed me of is

I have to live my lofe for god--that god does everything--in a way it is true--but I never liked that for some reason--all the bad things I have done I have really thought I have gotten what I deserve--you can play life, and if you try hard enough you can come out on top

I really don`t get it just yet

but there is somthing I just can`t get out of aa

I want to drink

i don`t want to get sick when I drink that is all--I don`t like lossing girls but that happens anyway--friends come and go--no matter what

people in aa, alot of them, I get the sense that they hate people that can drink and do--petty bastards. Goin to the meetings has taught alot to me but to keep going all my life--shit no fucking way

what you said dorreen about will power- that is true...
thus spoke G.A.P.

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