Scientology's Good

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Scientology's Good

Post by e_dog » January 27th, 2008, 4:18 pm

What the matter with scientology? everyones always dissing it.


I think its good, theyre against big pharma like no one else but Jon Edwards. they keep tom cruise off the streets.

So what's the problem?
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Post by jimboloco » January 29th, 2008, 8:48 am

william burroughs took some scientology lessons
thhen he left
too much control structure
but he kept the power pyramid
oh yeah

it is temptingto find a way that gives you empowerment
like, cognitive therapy programmed
so you can reframe at will

downtown Clearwater, up the road
you see them
they wear light beige shirts and slacks
and carry notebooks
and go singlefile
The Parts of Man
Man consists of three parts. The first of these is the spirit, called in Scientology the thetan (from the Greek letter theta, meaning "thought" or "spirit"), which is the individual himself.

The second of these parts is the mind. The thetan uses his mind as a communication and control system between himself and his environment.

The third of these parts is the body. The body is not the person.

The most important of the three parts of man is the thetan, which is the spirit, or you.


http://www.scientology.org/religion/pre ... pg008.html
thetans unite!
In the 1960s Burroughs also joined and left the Church of Scientology. In talking about the experience, he claimed that the techniques and philosophy of Scientology helped him and that he felt that further study into Scientology would produce great results. However he was sceptical of the organization itself, and felt that it fostered an environment that did not accept critical discussion.[25] His subsequent critical writings about the church and his review of a book entitled Inside Scientology by Robert Kaufman led to a battle of letters between Burroughs and Scientology supporters in the pages of Rolling Stone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Burroughs
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/nake ... tology.pdf
:roll: william burroughs naked scientology :shock:

burroughs on scientologee
LA FREE PRESS
the first article
says L ron iz a fascist

last article, pdf format is the short story ali's smile
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali%27s_Sm ... cientology
Smile/Naked Scientology is the title of a short collection of essays and fiction by William S. Burroughs which was first published in 1978. The short story "Ali's Smile" had previously been published on its own in 1971 and later in the collection, Exterminator!. The collected edition was published by Expanded Media Editions of West Germany.

The contents are a collection of different texts that all have one subject in common: they all deal one way or the other with Scientology (or Dianetics), the body of teachings founded by L. Ron Hubbard. The original edition of the Ali's Smile/Naked Scientology collection was bilingual, with the text printed in both English and German - the latter in translation by editor Carl Weissner.

The first half of the book documents a series of articles and letters written by Burroughs in early 1970s and published in various newsletters and magazines. The first of these texts is an article reprinted from the Los Angeles Free Press, March 6, 1970, entitled "Burroughs On Scientology" in which he, quite critically, describes his personal experience with the religion, as he was briefly a member before quitting and becoming a critic of the movement. Burroughs also attacked psychiatry in the article. This article sparked a storm of letters and controversy between Burroughs and the Church of Scientology.

The second text is an "Open Letter To Mister Gorden Mustain" which was originally published in The East Village Other only July 7, 1970. It was a response to Mustain who had attacked Burroughs in the pages of the Free Press over his stand on Scientology.

The third text is a reprint of a review by Burroughs of the book Inside Scientology by Robert Kaufman from the November 9, 1972 issue of Rolling Stone. This is followed by a letter from a Church of Scientology representative in reaction to the review of Kaufman's book, and then Burroughs' reply to that.

Although Burroughs writes that he finds some techniques from Scientology "highly valuable," he criticizes what he describes as "Mr. Hubbard's overtly fascist utterances" on American and international politics. He considers Hubbard to be out of sync with the radical youth movement of the period, and asks rhetorically, "which side are you on, Hubbard, which side are you on?"[1]

The book ends with a fictional, stream-of-consciousness text by Burroughs inspired by Scientology entitled "Ali's Smile".
the set is a country house, young man with a briefcase at the door. The door is opened by a gray-haired man dressed in a blue dressing gown.

"Yes?"

"I am your local Scientologist....What can I do for you?"

"Drop dead!"
and so on........... I'll read it thisd afternoon when I am stoned
I have a counseling session this morning with my zen amigo.
i read it
zen hippies saved from a brawl by a mudslide
saved by th mud
lotus blossoms in the mud
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yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]

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Post by e_dog » February 2nd, 2008, 8:27 pm

for Real? Burroughs was a scientologyst?

when they'd start that r'ligion?
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Post by jimboloco » February 3rd, 2008, 10:54 am

In the 1960s Burroughs also joined and left the Church of Scientology.

they got an art deco doorway in their manhattan place
gold
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Post by Totenkopf » February 3rd, 2008, 2:42 pm

Although Burroughs writes that he finds some techniques from Scientology "highly valuable," he criticizes what he describes as "Mr. Hubbard's overtly fascist utterances" on American and international politics. He considers Hubbard to be out of sync with the radical youth movement of the period, and asks rhetorically, "which side are you on, Hubbard, which side are you on?"[1]
Interesting, but not surprising. Read a bit about the founding of the COS and the mysterious L-Ron: one soon notes that L-Ron was not quite the do-gooder moralist that many Scientologists claim he was (or aspire to be). L-Ron, one time Navy man, dabbled in the occult back in the day, along with his pal Jack Parsons (who dat? He was a rocket scientist who more or less founded Cal Tech and JPL). Care to guess who they were inspired by? None other than old Uncle Aleister Crowley himself. Parsons in fact corresponded with Uncle Al--that is, until he blew himself up under rather odd circumstances (and --get this--L-Ron had run off with one of Parson's "scarlet ladies"). Much of this is detailed in Mike Davis' great history of LA, City of Quartz (and he's probably leftie enough for Comrade ee).

Burroughs' interest in the church of L-Ron then does not seem so strange. L-Ron did appropriate some of Crowley's techniques (whatever those are--probably mostly derived from yoga and meditation, etc.). Hubbard actually was not a complete rightist: he was a pal of RA Heinlein (both sort of failed engineers, and probably with some CIA connections), and L-Ron made a few slightly anti-war comments during 'Nam, and even hung out with some hippies on occasion, but was of course opposed to drugs--though his autopsy showed abundant quantities of muscle relaxants in his blood (L-Ron himself found dead, in somewhat "mysterious" circumstances, out in the boonies near San Luis Obisbo in 80s, I believe). All a big part of the USA Operation Mindphuck.

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Post by e_dog » February 3rd, 2008, 5:07 pm

gotta respect L-Ron. He's done the dream got his own religon.

Next up, l-rod?

Studioeightology?
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Post by Totenkopf » February 3rd, 2008, 7:59 pm

Yeah wow. Deeep. You ever seen the COS Temple complex on Sunset, near 101?? Intense, really. Sort of like a Thebes set in Ho-wood. Big, all black-onyx looking. They are mo' powerful than many realize. They are fairly sinister: not quite as sinister as most monotheists, or Osiris forbid, Mormons.

L-Ron was pretty f-ed up, but his sort of Hegelianism-lite, combined with a bit of eastern mysticism and gestalt-lite may not be as nutty as some realize. It was L-ron's attempt to create the myths (for whatever reason) that sort of botched it, methinx, and the "organizational" fetish as Big Bill B. yawped.

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Post by jimboloco » February 3rd, 2008, 10:08 pm

jesus like the holy roman empire
mayve they gotta go back and deconstruct the whole operation
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