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ghosts of suicidal past (graphic)

Post by bohonato » February 9th, 2008, 3:01 am

These are from circa 2002 and 2003. I came across them in an old notebook. I used to when I got really depressed and suicidal to draw these (I actually have a whole series, if you will). Anyway, more for myself than anything, I feel like I should share them. Therapeutically. I should probably stress that 1) these in no way reflect my current state of thought or feeling. Once I had friends start dying from suicide and drug use, and had to deal with it. . . I would never do that to my family and friends. 2) These are based on suicidal thougts, and are frankly probably disturbing. I can't tell, since I made them.

The lyrics from the first one is from the Nine Inch Nails song 'Hurt', but I was thinking of the Johnny Cash cover. If you haven't heard it, it'll break your heart. He released right before he died. (click here)

The second one I strongly believe is a Emily Dickinson poem, but there's chance it is Sylvia Plath. I'm 99% sure Dickinson. One of my greatest wishes at the time was that I would just never wake up in the morning every time I went to bed. I could relate.

These are nothing I'm proud of. I just need to rid my closet of its skeletons.

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Post by Arcadia » February 9th, 2008, 9:58 am

thanks for sharing!! :) Graphics are great in a too-much-words-world!!!
Curious, I don´t have friends or known-people that commited explicit-suicide. Maybe all of us heard already about too much people killing or be killed by others. I don´t know!!.

beautiful johnny cash song!!!!!!!

I heard myself today
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Post by stilltrucking » February 9th, 2008, 4:38 pm

The Heart Asks Pleasure First Emily Dickinson
Poem lyrics of The Heart Asks Pleasure First by Emily Dickinson.
The heart asks pleasure first
And then, excuse from pain-
And then, those little anodynes
That deaden suffering;

And then, to go to sleep;
And then, if it should be
The will of its Inquisitor,
The liberty to die.
It is interesting to me that you thought it might have been Plath.

I guess I have thought about suicide a lot of over the past sixty years. But I am such a procrastinator and now it is too late. Thought about it a lot only consciously tried it once and that was in 1948, I was about seven or eight locked in a closet sobbing tears of a child that felt unloved. Whether I meant to or whether I was just playing hangman I am not sure, but I come close, scared myself, tearing at the belt around my neck in panic. Strange how much more I appreciate Kerouac now that I know he was a virtual suicide. But for a child to commit suicide that is the most horrible thought I can have at the moment.
I have only known two adults that have done away with them selves, no three. Two father’s who had lost their businesses and were despondent about how they were going to take care of their families. I suppose they did it for the money. And one young guy in his twenties who did it because there were aliens from outer space trying to make him change his chromosomes and if he did not they were going to make him kill himself

It is good to rattle those bones, I call it doing the existential strip tease. But everything posted on this net has consequences. We could start that debate over toleration again, this is one fucked up country right now. As Nietzsche said god save us from the improvers of mankind.

Those myspace pages come back to haunt people I say, I think about the fourteen year kid that killed herself, and the guy who was sending her messages egging her on. Not the mother of the other girl, but some peckerhead who thought it was funny.

There was a time in my twenties when I could not get to sleep at night with out the thought of a rifle under my chin my finger on the trigger. I never actually put one there, did not even own a rifle but the thought was there consistently.

Speaking of a poem by plath
This one stays with me

I tried to understand her death, realized I could not because anatomy is destiny sometimes, and some say it was a fatal case of PMS. What would I know about that? So I say thank you dear Sylvia Hughes Plath, it is your life’s work that learned me, not your death
Mystic
The air is a mill of hooks --
Questions without answer,
Glittering and drunk as flies
Whose kiss stings unbearably
In the fetid wombs of black air under pines in summer.

I remember
The dead smell of sun on wood cabins,
The stiffness of sails, the long salt winding sheets.
Once one has seen God, what is the remedy?
Once one has been seized up

Without a part left over,
Not a toe, not a finger, and used,
Used utterly, in the sun's conflagration, the stains
That lengthen from ancient cathedrals
What is the remedy?

The pill of the Communion tablet,
The walking beside still water? Memory?
Or picking up the bright pieces
Of Christ in the faces of rodents,
The tame flower-nibblers, the ones

Whose hopes are so low they are comfortable --
The humpback in his small, washed cottage
Under the spokes of the clematis.
Is there no great love, only tenderness?
Does the sea

Remember the walker upon it?
Meaning leaks from the molecules.
The chimneys of the city breathe, the window sweats,
The children leap in their cots.
The sun blooms, it is a geranium.

The heart has not stopped.

Sylvia Plath
Sorry for the ramble
the topic of suicide always trips my trigger
Eversince those space aliens killed my friend
I wished I could have been more help to him
but I was too busy feeling sorry for myself
with my own gender issues.

Sisypuss
was a truck driver

roll on

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Post by jimboloco » February 10th, 2008, 12:58 pm

Imageright side up

Imageone more time
[color=darkcyan]i'm on a survival mission
yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]

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Post by jimboloco » February 10th, 2008, 1:11 pm

i did a thread last year on Iraq War vets who had committed suicide,
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this kid was a marine louie
stayed fucked up for a while
then got straight
was into zen
borrowed a gun
walked out too the pier
shot his self
i wrote his mom

she is in ongoing grief
supports cindy sheehan
and anybody who will end the insanity

i was always a survivor
tho had my moments

thanks for sharing mich
who was that guy who drew for hunter
ralph steadmon
kool
shows some potential
that one of th bullet thru th haid real
real
real
cathartic

mebbe you can vote for barack in the caucus
if they have a caucus here in flo i will do the same

we're all crazy
touched

i get hurt easy

giving up pot for lent

when we survive, we become healers
Whose hopes are so low they are comfortable --
that is a contradiction
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we got a new amandment to vote agin
come november
they wanna ban gay marraiges in florita
just say no

enough to piss me off
enuf to survive
i wanna see them rabid right wingers
shit
we gonna survive
they will croak
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yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]

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Post by bohonato » February 15th, 2008, 2:00 pm

When you don't want to feel, death can seem like a dream. But seeing death, really seeing it, makes dreaming about it fucking ridiculous.
- Girl, Interrupted (1999)

I was really into Sylvia Plath at that time. When I read The Bell Jar it just made so much sense. I haven't read it in four or five years, but I remember just identifying with it. I loved how she never really explained why she wanted to kill herself. I loved when she tried to jump out of the car and off the bridge. I loved when she threw shit off the top of the building in New York City.

And I understood being caught in a bell jar, with the oxygen being vacuumed out, and not knowing where to go, or what to do, or how to escape, or if escape was even possible.

The thought of suicide is a consolation. It can get one through many a bad night.
- Nietzche

There are things that need to be talked about. I believe suicide is one of them.

Cathartic is probably the best way to describe these.
I gave up boxed wine for Lent.

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Post by stilltrucking » February 18th, 2008, 10:58 am

that's the difference between me and jimboloco
we both looked
but jim could see it.
the pictures I mean

It is difficult to talk about Plath without getting tuned out. The result of the Sylvia Plath Suicide Doll industry that has sprung up around her.

I have read The Bell Jar probably no less than nine times. Possibly more. The first line was what hooked me.
It was a queer, sultry summer, the summer they electrocuted the Rosenbergs, and I didn't know what I was doing in New York. ...

I was around 13 years old that summer. I remember the paranoia very well. I was touched that this college girl was so stupid about executions.

I have never read girl interupted, or seen the movie. I am so entangled up with Esther Greenwood. Does it have a happy ending, do they mention Plath. Or the Sylvia Plath Effect.

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Post by jimboloco » February 18th, 2008, 1:48 pm

i wanted to get some bread, baloney and water
ride th bus down to cape cod, wander off into a quiet dunsey place, maybe with some sea oats,
lay down
and go to sleep

that was my suicide fantasy
1982
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Post by stilltrucking » February 22nd, 2008, 12:26 pm

“When Hemingway killed himself he put a period at the end of his life,” Kurt Vonnegut once said. “Old age is more like a semicolon.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/nyreg ... ei=5087%0A
ATLANTA - The suicide rate among middle-aged Americans has reached its highest point in at least 25 years, a new government report said Thursday.

The rate rose by about 20 percent between 1999 and 2004 for U.S. residents ages 45 through 54 — far outpacing increases among younger adults, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22258413/
Camus was very helpful to me. I hear evangelists lie about him, heard one say he was a suicide. Not true.

Amazon.com: The Myth of Sisyphus: And Other Essays: Books: Albert ...The polish is clear with the very first sentence: "There is only one really serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide." According to Camus ...
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Post by jimboloco » February 22nd, 2008, 1:11 pm

During my time in the Vet Center in Louisiana, we talked about being reckless. It was a way to take dangerous risks, an indirect tempt to death, yet with the intent to survive.

My chaplain friend told me yesterday he is copunselling the son of a nurse at our hospital who is/was on life suppo0rt after a sudden car crash, lively, vibrant, then nothing.

I was caring for a 91 year old lady whose husband, 84, died last week. She was alert, then a sudden change, now she is dying as well, married 75 years.

Hope I get to write a death poem, but not now, man, I got to see some changes in this fucking shit-hole country.
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