- OFF, OFF, OFF -

[Arcadia]

Ya say ya want a Devo-lution?

(I suddenly had a deja vu of Lennon in a terraza dressed in furs saying that!!)

thanks!!!!

[mnaz]

No doubt the style taxes the 'ol data processors, and parts of it revel in quirkiness for quirkiness, and parts of it didn't make sense to me, but then, quite a bit of it did. And I liked the themes, at least what I got (or mis-got)-- Will planet-rapin', (Escalade-drivin'?), drunk supertanker-pilotin', huge screen-watchin' sports thugs go the way of the Mammoth? Off the planet, or do it off us?.......

[WIREMAN]

i clicked with this on a different level sitting at the nola cafe...

[Lightning Rod]

I slept in this morning
too much music last night
I guess I missed the fun

this thread is steeped in incomprehensibility
I have to be amused
I give an 'A' to doreen for admitting that she didn't understand
but understanding is an elusive thing
some people think that the rust stain on the water tower
is an image of the Virgin Mary.

"You see what you want to see
and you hear what you want to hear."
--Rockman from The Point

[WIREMAN]

i once had a potato chip that looked like jimmy durante and i ate it schnazola
and all.....

[Doreen Peri]

I had to call my daughter long distance to find out how to turn the cell phone on.

I pushed every fricking button on the damn thing and couldn't get it to come on.

I left a message. I said, "Hi this is your incompetent mom. How do I turn this thing on?"

When she called back I was out. She couldn't call on my cell phone because I couldn't turn it on.

So she left a message on the home answering machine.

"Push the OFF button, Mom. That will turn it on."

Duh.

Who woulda thought? Push the OFF button to turn it on?

I don't get a lotta things.

Dad always taught us to tell people when we didn't get it. It was the way I was brought up.

[hester_prynne]

I'm simperin a smile here....indeed a grin if those can be simpered....
I'm with mighty mind....this is a deli smorgasborg, meat's n salads n desserts in a scurry.....

Enjoyed the chaos
H

[HaroHalola]

WELL - TY you ALL, mightily & heartily for the Invitation to the Party - Yes, a Gala, nice, in-deed; so, being I (my Work) am the ostensible Guest (of mostly Honor?) allow Me to offer my proppers, & risk the fear of further dishonor - LOL! As with ALL my Work, I structure/compose carefully to appeal/resonate with ALL Readers (should they choose to accept the assignment - Destruction Optional). At last count "335 Read/21 Comments," something I do not do, normally, however, this was just too replete to ignore; each of you has contributed cogently to the Work (more @ debating structure/comprehension, than addressing meaning, but I suppose this is tacit essence of the debate). Please know I do not set-out to confound/flummox; however, inherent in my Style is the intent to hopefully promote "out-of-the-box" mentation. Fervently, I do enjoy "speaking" w/each of you here, accepting of your opinions/views/Mindsets/Experiences... Indeed, most all I have Read of these are valid - though I do promote a pursuit to comprehension v. structure/Style - alas, perhaps I might hope for the aggrandizement All Poets seek, the Readers' return for further elucidation. Please forgive this Reply to en masse, there's simply too many for personal response, the liability of detracting/deferring new Work for you all to, hopefully, become likewise engaged... Party-on! I'll be in the corner with my Pound, attempting elegance, listening, listening... H'H./H.e.m.

[Doreen Peri]

Hi Haro.

Yesterday, I got chewed out by other members of this site because I honestly said I didn't get it. Since I'm not much for arguing, nor am I the type of person who enjoys being told that I'm not being "nice" when I try to always be respectful of other poets, I simply deleted my posts from the discussion. It was easier.

Now that you've replied to the thread, I do have something to say which I hope you know I'm saying respectfully.

I'm in advertising and as part of my work, I do typesetting. That's what I do for a living. One important rule so that you can bring in more readers to read your ad and therefore hopefully get their attention in order to sell your product is to make sure you don't use "initial caps" very much, if at all. This Sentence Is Written With Initial Caps. This sentence is written without initial caps.

When You Type A Sentence With Initial Caps, even if what you are trying to do is emphasize certain words, it makes the sentence Much More Difficult To Read.

So, this is a valid critique, in my opinion. If you truly want your readers to experience the "out-of-the-box mentation" meaning thinking out of the box, then I suggest limiting your initial caps or not using them at all. It makes it very difficult to read the work. (not the Work, but the work. *smile*)

Also, I'm pretty sure my vocabulary is at least average or maybe even somewhat above, but even in your reply I had to look up some words.

aggrandizement – the act of increasing the wealth or prestige or power or scope of something

Thanks for being part of the community. Obviously you have some fans. That said, I have enjoyed some of your pieces but many of them I have a difficult time reading because the "style" contains formatting which is not easy on my eyes, including initial caps, the meaning is obscured with words I have to look up as well as concepts I don't feel compelled to work that hard to decipher. This is one of those works. It's just too much of a puzzle for me to try to figure out. That said, if you'd like to explain what the theme is and what you were trying to say, I'm all ears. If not, that's fine too.

Now, if the members of this forum want to throw rotten apples at me for speaking my mind, oh well. I thought that was part of what a poetry forum was about. Discussing the poem, discussing the style and voice of the poem, and talking about its effectiveness on the reader.

To all those who feel compelled to critique my style of critiquing and responding to a poem, have at it. I'm not deleting this reply.

I feel like I need to be able to speak about the poem from this readers point of view, openly and honestly, and of course, respectfully, without being told I'm being mean, critical (in a personal judgmental sense), or harsh.

Thanks for listening, Haro.

And thanks to all in advance for NOT telling me to shut up.

[stilltrucking]

I got chewed out by other members of this site

I guess you would know best whether you got chewed out or not.
Sorry I must have missed it.
I think we all respect your integrity Doreen.

excuse me for butting in

another thing some appologized to HaroHalola for us hi jacking his thread, I do not feel I have anything to appologize. for.

[Doreen Peri]

Sorry Jack. That's how I felt. If I overreacted or misinterpreted, I'm sorry. Again, it all comes down to reader's comprehension abilities. I read that people weren't too pleased that I was speaking about the poem in a way which questioned the meaning of the poem and its structure from this reader's viewpoint.

Who said you had something to apologize for? I was apologizing for deleting all my posts.

My bad.

Everything's cool.

Gotta go out now and do real life. I'm not going to be here to continue this conversation today.

Enjoy your day!

[stilltrucking]

Real life
enjoy

[HaroHalola]

D. - This (esp.) for you; 1st., explication: The Poem (as the Title denotes) is a permutation of the "Off's" (as some have gleaned) - essentially, three meanings: a) getting- off, as in enjoyment; b) the offing of the Planet, as in destruction; c) off-of, as in leaving/escape. To wit, few, or no-more-nuthin' - no beauty/murder/vanity. Additionally, a "remedy" proffered for those adept/willing, vis-a-vis Meditation/Astral Projection/in combine w/Self-Awareness for Healing - Micro-Macro.

As for the structure I employ (Caps/Italics/Portmanteau-Inventions), I do nothing (seemingly) Conventionally, yet my Work is heavily-based in Poetic Tradition/Study of 1000+ yrs. of Eastern/Western Literature, interpreted for the purposes (as stated) of "cage-rattling;" consider the options (which you have) where the Work either "disturbs" to a positive or negative response. In either case, "mentation" has been achieved. I am not capricious, nor cavalier; everything is approached w/due diligence, notwithstanding my own amusements (hey, a Poet's gotta feed his own head, 1st.). I am chagrined (we have been "Post-mates" for a time) by your frustration, i.e. unhappy my Work in toto does not move/resonate for you; I'd be pleased if It did (I have quoted a blurb of yours from Arcanum Cafe in the Credits of my forthcoming Book). So, please, no despair, I am ALWAYS pleased to see/Read your witty-cum-droll/hysterical Comments, for which I maintain the utmost respect, & by extension, You! TY for the Site - H'H./H.e.m.

P.S. - Btw, the Word for how you characterize yourSelf is misologist, Ms. Ologist, LOL!

[Doreen Peri]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search? ... ogist&r=66

mi·sol·o·gy Audio Help [mi-sol-uh-jee, mahy-]
–noun
distrust or hatred of reason or reasoning.

I don't get that you're calling me that. I love reason and reasoning.

But as you've seen, I don't get a lot of things.

Oh well. LOL!

Thanks for the explanation of the meaning of your poem and for including a comment I posted at AC in your upcoming book.

Sorry I don't get it all the time. I try.

Best,
D

[HaroHalola]

D. - A slight apology for the (seeming-seemly) slight; my interpretation (LOL!) is of One whom eschews conflict; I inferred no other connotation. And, cool, YW, YW... H'H./H.e.m.