non sum

[Doreen Peri]

Cool! Where can I see that whole movie, Jack?

[mtmynd]

Thx, JT, for that vid piece. I never spent much time with Gary and his writings but had heard so many 'righteous' things about the man. Maybe I'm old enough now to read some of his works.

[Non Sum]

Hi
ST: Sorry Dude that was rude of me to talk about you in the third person

NS: Not at all, dude.
I believe it would only be rudeness to speak as such while in the physical presence of a 3rd party. And even then, they would need to be conscious, and not have passed out from over partying. So, 3rd me all you want; no foul.

Party on, dudes,
NS (Narly Surfer-dude)

Gotta catch a movie, Cec, but I'll get back atcha, and try not to fly into a rage over dem damned priests & putrid pols.

[stilltrucking]

I can't find the movie Doreen, it is weird. I can find the collection of essays Practice of The Wild on Amazon but I can't find the movie to watch.

I did find a Facebook page for the movie
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=345188467232

I would like to see it too. Let me know if you have better luck finding it

Gary Snyder taught me irony.

WHY LOG TRUCK DRIVERS RISE
EARLIER THAN STUDENTS OF ZEN

In the high seat, before dawn dark,
Polished hubs gleam
And the shiny diesel stack
Warms and flutters
Up the Tyler Road grade
To the logging in Poorman creek.
Thirty miles of dust.

There is no other life.

----------------------------------------------

Gary Snyder - Turtle Island 1974

[mtmynd]

NS: Gotta catch a movie, Cec,

Odd... I prefer to watch a movie. But, of course, I may be ignorant in knowing how a movie is caught... it may be better than watching.

[stilltrucking]

Gary is the real deal
a bad old man
not unlike you Cecil

[Doreen Peri]

stilltrucking said,

I can't find the movie Doreen, it is weird. I can find the collection of essays Practice of The Wild on Amazon but I can't find the movie to watch.

On the FB fan page it says

Release Date:
May 2010

So I guess that's why we can't find it yet. LOL!

Hope to get to watch it when it comes out! .... I missed the PBS documentary about The Buddha the other night and I had my calendar marked for a week. Oh well. Did you see that?

[stilltrucking]

thanks for the info D. I looked but I did not see.

[Non Sum]

MT: I don't recall anywhere reading where he said "there's also laughing."

NS: “Where there is no ostensible attribution, please assume that I am quoting, misquoting, or simply paraphrasing myself.” (NS)

MT: Perhaps you can direct me to that line. I'd like to read it because I do believe that laughing is part and parcel, the yin/yang of joy/sorrow. Why do you think Buddha brought that up? To crack a joke for you?

NS: If he had said it, you may be sure that would have been the sole reason for doing so. Why I said it, was to mimic the grammatical structure so to make it more obvious to you how you were expanding unnecessarily upon Buddha’s “suffering” assertion.

MT: It seems to have degenerated into other ideas and other's sayings.

NS: While I may well be a degenerate who holds other ideas and sayings than those of the “Preacher” in Ecclesiastes, I don’t believe we erred by your references to Buddha’s saying and ideas, and my accompanying you there. I feel it both deepened and broadened the discussion well beyond a stupid quote.

I genuinely like the three Greek sourced Biblical books, and the great Preacher's wisdom. But, in the instance of this particular quote, I’d have to agree with Job who said: ”Great men are not always wise.” But then, who among us is?

MT: If you, NS, disagree that 'there is suffering' and 'much suffering begets much sorrow' I'm not sure I agree with your reasoning

NS: I don’t disagree that, “there is suffering.” I do disagree that one must necessarily “sorrow” over their, or another’s, suffering. Far better, and “wiser,” not to compound one’s suffering by the addition of sorrowing over it. And do please note that Buddhism considers suffering as the opposite of wisdom, since no one actually suffers.

MT: If you are a perfectly satisfied individual so be it.

NS: Humans are always unsatisfied in some way or other, if only feeling the need to adjust their posture, or to exhale a breath. “Satisfaction” only arrives when one no longer considers themselves to be human.

”a True Human Being is not human!” (Rumi)
” Thou, as a human being, art that which is not. I am that I am. If thou perceivest this truth in thy soul, never shall the enemy deceive thee; thou shalt escape all his snares.” (St.
Catherine of Siena)

MT: Odd... I prefer to watch a movie. But, of course, I may be ignorant in knowing how a movie is caught... it may be better than watching.

NS: “Watching” works until the movie begins to run; that is the best time to “catch” it, if you can. Otherwise, you may miss it, It’ll get by you, and will then only play at a theatre Not near you; making it even harder to catch, unless you can grab it later as a rerun. Oddly, short runs of movies are the hardest to catch.
NS (No Shorts)

”Some folks are wise, and some are otherwise.” (Tobias Smollett)

[stilltrucking]

<center>"God is not mocked except by believers. A.S.</center>

N.S. Wrote

I believe it would only be rudeness to speak as such while in the physical presence of a 3rd party. And even then, they would need to be conscious, and not have passed out from over partying. So, 3rd me all you want; no foul.

So long my fearless brother. Maybe some other time on another thread.


"Why am I so wise in my own eyes?" from the book of jackadiah