This may be irrelevant for many or perhaps you don't give a shit about creating peace. For me it is imperative in my life and I would like to spread it around. Peace is not something you can force upon the planet...peace does not come from FORCE...peace is a personal journey that starts with each individual. If. "IF" you are interested, give this some thought...
"There is no way to peace. Peace is the way." so said Gandhi. What does that mean?
Deepak Chopra has written a new book called Peace is the Way and the following are some personal suggestions for each to think about:
Sunday: Being for Peace Meditate on forgiveness
Monday: Thinking for Peace Hold positive intentions for all
Tuesday: Feeling for Peace Feel compassion and love
Wednesday: Speaking for Peace Speak without complaint or criticism
Thursday: Acting for Peace Help someone in need
Friday: Creating for Peace Get ideas for resolving conflict
Saturday: Sharing the Peace Invite two people to take up this practice
Peace,
SooZen ( a fool for peace)
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I SooZ! Nice to see you here!
I don't know of anyone who isn't interested in Peace.
(Oh except for the warmongers currently in power.... and those who continually cause conflict with each other, fighting and arguing .... arghhhhhhhhhhh!)
You're so very right that peace begins from within.
I wish Gandhi had more influence on people. I love the teachings of Gandhi.
Thanks for the book reference. I've read some of Chopra's work. I didn't know he had a new book out.
Sounds like a wonderful outline for peaceful action every week! I would love it if people would speak without complaint or criticism, have positive thoughts, resolve conflict, show compassion and love.... It all seems so simple, doesn't it? And what a great ending .... to invite two people to take up this weekly practice.
I'm going to pass this along to people. Thanks so much for posting this!
Hope you are doing well! I haven't seen you online for quite some time. Peace & Love to you, SooZ!
I don't know of anyone who isn't interested in Peace.
(Oh except for the warmongers currently in power.... and those who continually cause conflict with each other, fighting and arguing .... arghhhhhhhhhhh!)
You're so very right that peace begins from within.
I wish Gandhi had more influence on people. I love the teachings of Gandhi.
Thanks for the book reference. I've read some of Chopra's work. I didn't know he had a new book out.
Sounds like a wonderful outline for peaceful action every week! I would love it if people would speak without complaint or criticism, have positive thoughts, resolve conflict, show compassion and love.... It all seems so simple, doesn't it? And what a great ending .... to invite two people to take up this weekly practice.
I'm going to pass this along to people. Thanks so much for posting this!
Hope you are doing well! I haven't seen you online for quite some time. Peace & Love to you, SooZ!
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ghandi died the year I was born.
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"Death is appointed end of all life. To die by the hand of a brother, rather than by disease or in such other way, cannot be for me a matter of sorrow. And if, even in such a case, I am free from the thought of anger or hatred against my assailant, I know that will redound to my eternal welfare."
These sublime words proved to be prophetic. On January 30, 1948, ten days after the bomb incident, Gandhi hurriedly went up the few steps of the prayer ground in the large park of the Birla House. He had been detained by a conference with the Deputy Prime Minister, Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, and was late by a few minutes. He loved punctuality and was worried that he had kept the congregation waiting. "I am late by ten minutes," he murmured. "I should be here at the stroke of five." He raised his hands and touched the palms together to greet the crowd that was waiting. Every one returned the greeting. Many came forward wanting to touch his feet. They were not allowed to do so, as Gandhi was already late. But a young Hindu from Poona forced his way forward and while seeming to do obeisance fired three point-blank shots from a small automatic pistol aimed at the heart. Gandhi fell, his lips uttering the name of God (He Ram). Before medical aid could arrive the heart had ceased to beat-the heart that had beat only love of man.
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"Death is appointed end of all life. To die by the hand of a brother, rather than by disease or in such other way, cannot be for me a matter of sorrow. And if, even in such a case, I am free from the thought of anger or hatred against my assailant, I know that will redound to my eternal welfare."
These sublime words proved to be prophetic. On January 30, 1948, ten days after the bomb incident, Gandhi hurriedly went up the few steps of the prayer ground in the large park of the Birla House. He had been detained by a conference with the Deputy Prime Minister, Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, and was late by a few minutes. He loved punctuality and was worried that he had kept the congregation waiting. "I am late by ten minutes," he murmured. "I should be here at the stroke of five." He raised his hands and touched the palms together to greet the crowd that was waiting. Every one returned the greeting. Many came forward wanting to touch his feet. They were not allowed to do so, as Gandhi was already late. But a young Hindu from Poona forced his way forward and while seeming to do obeisance fired three point-blank shots from a small automatic pistol aimed at the heart. Gandhi fell, his lips uttering the name of God (He Ram). Before medical aid could arrive the heart had ceased to beat-the heart that had beat only love of man.
Peace is sometimes seen as a surrender which freaks people who live lives of defensiveness, always fearing what they do not know of themselves. From this they equate peace with foolishness and stupidity. How unfortunate those souls are that are trapped within the ego of fear for they may never know the bounty of peacefullness that is the gift of existence.
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Clay- Geezzzzz... I didn't know someone shot him! That's like soooooo sad. That's soooooo .... eerie and wrong... I can't think of the right word. This great man of peace got killed by a bullet? 
Cecil - That's so sad, too! That people would think of peace as surrender and weakness. This world has a long way to go. I feel sorry for those people. Worse, I feel sorry for all the people who experience violence in the name of peace. The idiots who preach war for peace make my stomach turn. One person at a time. Peace comes from within.
I have a lot more of these and other quotes about non-violence and peace on my computer but here's a few quotes by Gandhi.
Gandhi Quotes
"We must become the change we want to see."
“I can combine the greatest love with the greatest opposition to wrong.”
“All my actions have their rise in my inalienable love of mankind.”
“We are constantly being astonished at the amazing discoveries in the field of violence. But I maintain that far more undreamt of and seemingly impossible discoveries will be made in the field of nonviolence.”
Reporter: “Mr. Gandhi, what do you think of Western civilization?”
Gandhi: “I think it would be a good idea!”
Cecil - That's so sad, too! That people would think of peace as surrender and weakness. This world has a long way to go.
I feel sorry for those people. Worse, I feel sorry for all the people who experience violence in the name of peace. The idiots who preach war for peace make my stomach turn. One person at a time. Peace comes from within. I have a lot more of these and other quotes about non-violence and peace on my computer but here's a few quotes by Gandhi.
Gandhi Quotes
"We must become the change we want to see."
“I can combine the greatest love with the greatest opposition to wrong.”
“All my actions have their rise in my inalienable love of mankind.”
“We are constantly being astonished at the amazing discoveries in the field of violence. But I maintain that far more undreamt of and seemingly impossible discoveries will be made in the field of nonviolence.”
Reporter: “Mr. Gandhi, what do you think of Western civilization?”
Gandhi: “I think it would be a good idea!”
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when a person gives up attachment to ego, honour, possession and greed, peace would surely be discovered - even for a moment.
Why is there war?
If i neutralize the parts in me that 'war' to get what they want, and if i neutralize in myself the want of things that are unattainable, perhaps i'll discover my inner peace.
At the moment, i try Deepak's suggestions, and i believe in defusing antagonism where possible. One thing at a time, and then do it again. There's no end - peace is the most active intention imaginable.
SooZen, you're a welcome voice. You've started a chain gang for peace.
judih
Why is there war?
If i neutralize the parts in me that 'war' to get what they want, and if i neutralize in myself the want of things that are unattainable, perhaps i'll discover my inner peace.
At the moment, i try Deepak's suggestions, and i believe in defusing antagonism where possible. One thing at a time, and then do it again. There's no end - peace is the most active intention imaginable.
SooZen, you're a welcome voice. You've started a chain gang for peace.
judih
It is nice to see all of these thoughtful responses and Howdy! to all of you...
Within the human condition, we find it impossible to stay in a peaceful state indefinitely. Someone or something is bound to piss us off, distrurb us, cause us to lash out. In fact as the greatest of the great apes we have a gene within our very DNA for aggression. Our aggressions become our habits and war is a human habit. To unlearn, to leap forward evolutionarily...we must expand our awareness of what we can generate on a personal human level. War can end today within each individual if we take the leap...
Seek Peace,
SooZen
Within the human condition, we find it impossible to stay in a peaceful state indefinitely. Someone or something is bound to piss us off, distrurb us, cause us to lash out. In fact as the greatest of the great apes we have a gene within our very DNA for aggression. Our aggressions become our habits and war is a human habit. To unlearn, to leap forward evolutionarily...we must expand our awareness of what we can generate on a personal human level. War can end today within each individual if we take the leap...
Seek Peace,
SooZen
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Ironic Gandhi in 1948
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968
But peace goes on
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I have some respect for the Thoreauvian/buddhist/Ghandi/MLKing tradition of non-violence and civil disobedience, but I also think it's naive to think that "peace"--however we define it-- is inherently good. Certainly WWII was a justified war was it not? I would say that a military response to the japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was also justified. On an individual level too a peaceful or pacifistic attitude or state of mind is not always good. If you live in a neighborhood of criminals who are armed and violent it might behoove you to have a firearm as well; it might behoove you to know some karate or be strong enough to defend yourself or your family. In general I agree with you, but I think your argument depends on a view of human nature wherein everyone is capable of being ethical or peaceful simply by some "correct intuition." I think peace can be argued for logically, or perhaps enforced by the UN or similiar organization, or even brought about by religious fears (ie. if you harm the innocent injustly you will pay it for it in hades, hell, "dharmically" or whatever).
I have some respect for the Thoreauvian/buddhist/Ghandi/MLKing tradition of non-violence and civil disobedience, but I also think it's naive to think that "peace"--however we define it-- is inherently good. Certainly WWII was a justified war was it not? I would say that a military response to the japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was also justified. On an individual level too a peaceful or pacifistic attitude or state of mind is not always good. If you live in a neighborhood of criminals who are armed and violent it might behoove you to have a firearm as well; it might behoove you to know some karate or be strong enough to defend yourself or your family. In general I agree with you, but I think your argument depends on a view of human nature wherein everyone is capable of being ethical or peaceful simply by some "correct intuition." I think peace can be argued for logically, or perhaps enforced by the UN or similiar organization, or even brought about by religious fears (ie. if you harm the innocent injustly you will pay it for it in hades, hell, "dharmically" or whatever).
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First I must say that yes, I am naive and uncluttered with the where's and whyfore's of justifying violent human endeavors. Since I neither subscribe to either heaven or hell and follow no dogma of any religion my views of creating peace on a personal level is purely simplistic. I want and desire peace and so...I create it for myself and within my sphere. I am not concerned with changing the world because it is what it is. I can only change myself and share what I have, the peace that I know with those that wish to share. I am not concerned with history because history is past and strive to live neither there or worry about what the future may hold. There is only now, this moment for me and in this moment I need peace...and whether that is "good" or "bad" doesn't matter. I consider myself not a buddhist but a zennist and therefore there is no god, only godliness, there is no heaven or hell only Now without judgement. That may be foolish but it sure is peaceful...
Dave...hello and thanks always.
First I must say that yes, I am naive and uncluttered with the where's and whyfore's of justifying violent human endeavors. Since I neither subscribe to either heaven or hell and follow no dogma of any religion my views of creating peace on a personal level is purely simplistic. I want and desire peace and so...I create it for myself and within my sphere. I am not concerned with changing the world because it is what it is. I can only change myself and share what I have, the peace that I know with those that wish to share. I am not concerned with history because history is past and strive to live neither there or worry about what the future may hold. There is only now, this moment for me and in this moment I need peace...and whether that is "good" or "bad" doesn't matter. I consider myself not a buddhist but a zennist and therefore there is no god, only godliness, there is no heaven or hell only Now without judgement. That may be foolish but it sure is peaceful...
Dave...hello and thanks always.
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i've always admired those who believe in acting peaceful as the road to peace (if i read you correctly, bb)...i think that little steps can have huge effect in the long, long term...lord knows my personal feelings on the road to peace haven't worked yet...but neither has any method yet...
nonetheless, i admire the conviction, whether i agree with its utility or not
nonetheless, i admire the conviction, whether i agree with its utility or not
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