Saddam's (former) Threat

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » December 1st, 2005, 11:43 am

Military Profiteering Part of the Problem?


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http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1130-28.htm



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Post by jimboloco » December 1st, 2005, 3:23 pm

Aerosmith and Tom Petty at a Bar Mitzvah?

oh well, it's a gig!

I don't see how they can say it is a growing problemo, along with their vote fixing no receipt voting machines.

At least maybe Ahnuldt will pardon the dude.
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Post by Zlatko Waterman » December 7th, 2005, 2:11 pm

Remember Saddam, that "former threat" ( as the title of this thread names him . . .) ?

Well, he's still around, and bristling with self-confidence . . .

story at link:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10355982/



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Post by abcrystcats » December 8th, 2005, 12:31 am

Mark, you were arguing with my brother uh-gain??

why bother?

Did you read the interesting article in Rolling Stone, December 1st interviewing John Rendon, and documenting his role in spin-doctoring the public perception of the issues (WMD) in Iraq. Incredible.

We're living in age of lies.

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » December 8th, 2005, 11:14 am

Kat:


I read the RS article too.

If there were a lower form of slime-sucking sewer rat ( and I shouldn't write that, since I like rats . . .), Rendon would be it.

All this is like a very bad science-fiction novel.

Or even a good one, like "If This Goes On . . ." by Robert Heinlein, written in the fifties!



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Post by Zlatko Waterman » December 11th, 2005, 11:35 am

The Pentagon, The Information War, and the Lincoln Group (25 million dollar contractor):


http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/nyt135.html



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Post by hester_prynne » December 11th, 2005, 2:54 pm

I usually approach the Foxian righters with the topic of hunger and poverty and homelessness in America. 9 times out of 10 I find they are in complete denial that this is a problem in this country, or, they blame it all on the persons, "losers", who are hungry and poor........
I avoid talking about the war when this is the case.
I mean, why bother?
You can't break through that kind of arrogant denial.
The "America can do no wrong denial"
Based in fear.......
Immovable beast, it is.
A veritable terroristic value really......
I avoid it like the plague.
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Post by jimboloco » December 13th, 2005, 1:21 pm

Pentagon's 'Black Budget' Veils Contracting Shenanigans
"There's been a geometric increase in contracts, but the watchdog agencies, their resources and staffs are being cut,"
This was in the St Pete Times last Sundag

Immoveabull beast indeed, ha!
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Post by tinkerjack » December 13th, 2005, 2:54 pm

There is no debating a True Believer Mark.

Jimboloco mountain pictures very beautiful. Thank you.

The ones with the mountain top shroulded in the clouds brings back beautiful images. At the top of Monorch Pass in Colorado, I should have gotten out of that truck and sat down in the falling snow until I was enlightened
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Post by jimboloco » December 14th, 2005, 9:08 am

I was interjecting some levity into a glacial mood.
Are you in a holy daze?
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Post by tinkerjack » December 14th, 2005, 10:52 pm

I was just looking at the mountains. And remembering the biggest snow flakes I ever saw, hardly falling, gently suspended in the air.

No way to debate a true believer. True Believer is a book by a hero of mine. Just a west coast long-shoreman who loved philosophy.

I am in a resolute mood. What I can be do is plant a seed in the Foxian mind, no head butting is going to work. a little gentle irony can go a lot farther then debates, a bit of humor, a smile, or an eloquent silence. Ya know jimboloco Homeboy was a lifer, twenty years a doctor with wings. All through the war we never debated each other, we never hated each other, we were brothers. We never fully agreed. He loved his job, I think it was like socialized medicine to him, never had to worry whether an airman third's wife could afford the cost of her care.

Just he did his duty, but you did more. That is why I respect U so much.


No holy daze for me yet. Well maybe a little. I bought the bear a collapsable fishing rod. Trying to get the dough together for Texas motor cycle liscense. Me and him going to tour the spanish missions around here when I get it. Long range planes to make it back to Virginia, me and Jitterbug not getting any younger. Maybe stop through Roanoke with a custard pie, in case it would help that nurse feel better if she pied me for not showing up for her yoga class at the shul that friday night.

So how's with you Amigo?
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Post by jimboloco » December 15th, 2005, 10:40 am

o i am sure she is pining away in roanoke
why not look her up
what's her name?

easy being somebody
not directly connected
with the war machine's murderous endpoint


like i was down and out in ft worth
went to this vet outreach center for jobs
this pudge (mental as well, man)
sitting there behind a scabby desk,
has a framed photo of an AC-130 over it
Image
cannons shooting bursts of flame
he was in administration a clerk lifer
he smiled at me and i frowned at him
then he was frowning an i was smiling
trekked thru my woe with raucous laughter

still trekking
bows to everybody who knew
how to ride the train ,conform and be normal

me i am stoned, man
getting ready duh, for a detox up in minniehaha land
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Post by tinkerjack » December 15th, 2005, 10:57 am


I don’t think she is pining I just think I owe her an apology. I should have not tried to make it sound funny, it was not. I hurt her.
easy being somebody
He treated some of the returning POW's. That is when he decided to become a psychiatirst.

Let it go jimbo
let it go
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Post by Zlatko Waterman » December 19th, 2005, 3:47 pm

A GOOD IDEA:

( not reported in the US)


The World Peace Secretariat:


http://www.antiwar.com/orig/garris.php?articleid=8274



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Post by mnaz » December 19th, 2005, 10:43 pm

"The key message of the forum was that democracy means giving citizens the right to decide whether their own countries initiate war outside their boundaries".

Self-explanatory.... right?


"It was difficult for them to comprehend how such a strong majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, yet there is no desire among most U.S. politicians to leave"....

the key word here might be "now".... because back then, nearly 3 years ago, when this particular war was being framed and conjured by the most profitable kingdom builders of the land as essential for our security.... another 'buzz-word', thought to be out of favor in the wake of the 9/11 Commission reports and the Duelfer report, though extracted from its short retirement again last night in the President's speech.... At one point, at the dawn of 2003, through all manner of subterfuge and intimidation and carefully twisted data and phrases, it was quite a different matter. A slight majority of Americans were led to believe that this war was unavoidable, like so many wars before it. And once the mobilization and invasion began, there was an irreversible momentum to the process.... now, forever cursed by then.

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