Domestic Violence

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Post by Lightning Rod » March 16th, 2009, 9:37 pm

doreen peri wrote:hey continue to insult me here and i'll delete them all from here, too

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that would be domestic abuse

I'm trying to be good humored here, doreen

but I learned long ago that my good humor is wasted on you many times

I promise you that my intentions are good. I am not now nor have I ever insulted your work. I do make critical observations. As you remind me, I'm entitled to my opinion. Sorry if I get too close to the bone sometimes.
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Post by Lightning Rod » March 16th, 2009, 9:54 pm

and these quotes are supposed to prove that I have insulted your work?
those are honest critical observations, not insults

this sounds like more of an insult to me:

Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
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Post by hester_prynne » March 16th, 2009, 10:07 pm

I have to read the first line imitating John Wayne. If I don't then I can't read the piece because this is a very touchy subject to me. Evenso, I want to read your poem, tough first line and all, because this is a subject that is well worth bringing up, the more it's brought up perhaps the more accountable folks will be around it.

It actually used to be okay and acceptable for a male to say something like the first line of Lrod's poem. Women used to accept it! It made some women feel loved for their man to speak of them that way! We have come a long way on this terribly important yet to this day unspeakable issue.

How many times I have been in a room full of women, reacting to a woman's story of domestic violence. The reactions are fairly surprizing, the percentage of women that will shrug and say, hey, that's the way it is, or the ones who will say get away from it right now. In an ideal world there would be no hesitation for a woman to get out, but the reality is that women don't, in fact they feel they can't. Who will pay the rent, who will feed the children, I can't do this alone, etc, etc, etc.

So maybe the woman who won't leave is a criminal too? I dunno. I do know that a poem like this could be the start of some really good conversation, and some enlightenment could be drawn from it, because regardless of anything else, it puts a subject out there that most would rather ignore.

I think Doreen's offense is understandable and a good example of how to react to the subject, it isn't funny. Sometimes though, I also think, that to open a doorway for difficult subjects, a lightness of approach is also an understandable way to do it.

This poem gave me an involuntary jerk. And the first thing I thought was, "lrod lrod lrod, there you go again, putting your foot in it..." But that was me, not wanting to go there. So I put on my best John Wayne imitation and broke through that uncomfortable first line.

This Poem needs work, alot more sensitivity, but it's a strong piece with a strong subject and that's a good thing.
H 8)
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Post by Doreen Peri » March 16th, 2009, 10:08 pm

I deleted all my posts from the thread.

Have a good night.

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Post by Lightning Rod » March 16th, 2009, 10:37 pm

hest,

You are the one who is where the rubber meets the road on the issue, I know. I appreciate your insight.

Too bad you didn't get to see the whole conversation. It was perfectly illustrative of the poem.
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Post by stilltrucking » March 17th, 2009, 8:56 am

What interests me is the intention behind the intention and how you keep telling us that you are just this little guy who would not harm a fly.

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Post by stilltrucking » March 17th, 2009, 9:36 am

write on clay
it is all grist for the poet's mill/eye
but your reader's got eyes too
even the likes of me who are not poets

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Post by stilltrucking » March 17th, 2009, 9:51 am

The economy of mascochism is an interesting and worthy subject for a poem.


Clay wrote:
the domestic violence starts in her corner
"i dare you to hit me, I dare you."
Does it clay, does it start in her corner?
You know women better than me.

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Post by Arcadia » March 17th, 2009, 9:01 pm

l-rod: I do not agree at all about what you said about the tango-dance (sorry, my keyboard suffered yesterday from a coffee-bath and do not allow abreviations at least at this moment! :lol: ). As I experienced it, it is more like tai-chi with a partner with axis in the heart plus music despite sometimes the lyrics. I wonder, have you tried it? :)

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Post by stilltrucking » March 17th, 2009, 9:14 pm

I guess that's why you keep deleting my posts on your facebook....haha
HaHa
At what point does it become "stalking"

Don't argue with me Clay, you have already established that I am an idiot.

A sensitive subject for me too.

Some of the most dangerous men I have met were about your size clay. I wish you would not keep bringing that up. For some reason it creeps me out.

I am going to use this for my new tagline if you don't mind

"the domestic violence starts in her corner."

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Post by Lightning Rod » January 27th, 2010, 4:12 pm

Haha, this thread looks really funny since doreen exed her posts.
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Post by Doreen Peri » January 27th, 2010, 5:41 pm

Lightning Rod wrote:Haha, this thread looks really funny since doreen exed her posts.
I can't imagine why anybody would want to move this thread back up to the top almost a year later.

Totally baffling to me. What's the point? Just to open old wounds?

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