criticism gone wrong

[Doreen Peri]

Thanks for the link, Yejun.

My opinion about that is that if you're going to post something that someone else wrote, the quote code would be a good idea so it looks like this

all the stuff someone else wrote goes here

And credit should be given to the person who wrote the material. The author's name should be mentioned.

Is that what you wanted to know when you asked me

But what do you do with Sweetwater's e-mail contribution?

[Yejun]

Well, actually I was interested in identity. You draw the line between personal and poetry criticism. That used to be enough for me but what do you do when writers see themselves in what they write?

If you say, for example, that the poem didn't work, is that being critical of the person or the poem? At a certain point, isn't it really just a matter of choosing the correct, proper, PC subject for your sentence?

Or even the correct, proper, PC pronoun:

This poem didn't work for me.

Your writing doesn't work for me here.

Oh, and Doreen, don't worry about me here. I'm trying to rethink some things. There may be no solution at all.

[Doreen Peri]

Well, I'm not talking at all about writing when I'm talking about not liking personal criticism.

I'm talking about when someone says, "You really shouldn't BE like that! You aren't acting like you should act" or "I don't like the way you dress. You should wear nicer clothes" ... that type of thing. Personal criticisms. "You talk too much" or "You should be a vegetarian. Meat's not good for you." ... all the "SHOULD" statements. In my opinion "should" should be stricken from the English language.

If someone says something about my poem and my poem is personally about ME, I don't take their criticism as a criticism about me at all. I take it as a criticism of my writing. And that's fine. If I don't agree that their input will help make my work any better, I just ignore it.

[Yejun]

I'm talking about when someone says, "You really shouldn't BE like that! You aren't acting like you should act" or "I don't like the way you dress. You should wear nicer clothes" ... that type of thing. Personal criticisms. "You talk too much" or "You should be a vegetarian. Meat's not good for you." ... all the "SHOULD" statements. In my opinion "should" should be stricken from the English language.

Oh, that stuff. I usually put on what I hope is a wry smile, put out my hands in a 'come here' gesture and say, "Bring it on! Bring it on!"

It's a defense mechanism.

If someone says something about my poem and my poem is personally about ME, I don't take their criticism as a criticism about me at all. I take it as a criticism of my writing. And that's fine. If I don't agree that their input will help make my work any better, I just ignore it.

That's what I do as well. Not everybody does that.

[keithalanhamilton]

Thanks all,

As an artist, I think my artistic expression here is more to help fellow artists find a mentality to work through the criticism of their art. So they don't allow the critics to dictate or stymie their artistic creativity.

I'm an artist, I create and the critics will always wallow in the aftermath of my poetic creations.

so be it...... write on.......... be your creative and unique you

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