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After 911

Post by Barry » July 24th, 2009, 10:46 pm

Some days I sit out back here on break and remember
what it was like in the days after 911
how it was so quiet
no planes taking off
the sky so blue
no contrails to cloud it up.

Ten months later it's back to
business as usual
noisy
hazy overcast
people being mean to each other
all over again.

How sad.

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Post by justwalt » July 25th, 2009, 12:30 am

The feeling...of...something...lingered a bit longer, closer to ground
zero, which I drive by 2-3 times a week. My son was at JFK Airport
that morning waiting to board a plane to South Carolina...he was on
his way to report for duty as a marine. I think he shit his pants that
day too. He did 2 tours in Iraq, safely.

But the feeling(s) in NYC and nearby were nothing you could put a finger on too easily. It was a mix of shock, anger and fear all in one, with a few more blurred emotions. Some say there was a feeling of unity between people then, but it was also a feeling of aloneness... I think people began to see just how quickly there lives could be turned up-side-down, or worse, extinguished.

In I-MAX vision, real-time surround sound and the Disney-like 4-D effects...the typical tough and uncaring New Yorker...fell down in the street and cried. And it lingered heavily, for a long time.

My wife and I were invited to watch the 4th of July fireworks from a
high-rise penthouse in Battery Park City 3 weeks ago. We had the
top 2 floors, and the show was great, even from 20 blocks away.
But looking down from the roof we could see ground zero, under construction with the new freedom tower...(the first floor above the ground level is not yet completed)...but seeing the site from 35 floors up brought back some numbing feelings.

Today, most of NYC is different. It's nothing like it was 10 years ago.
Partly due to 9/11 and also since the police force was tripled.
The gangs are gone... the drug trade still operates, but only by
appointment, and hardly in the streets. People help each other,
and smile...wow. It's something to see. But people watch the
skies a bit more now. They watch everything. That uncertainty of
"terror" still lingers. It underscores the New Yorker of today.

It's true, that we will never forget. But I think that felling of unity
comes more from fear rather than love. But it's a step toward the
better, not worse. One day we may learn something from all this...
I hope so, anyway.

walt

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Post by Barry » July 26th, 2009, 7:27 pm

I think I wrote this after I found out NYPD and FDNY were clamoring through litigation to secure their "rightful" profit from the national upsurge in sales of garments and other products bearing their respective logos.
People wanted to show tribute to those two brave organizations and the sacrifice both made that day, but they said,"Hey, that's our money we're losing."
People being mean to each other all over again.

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Barry

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Post by goldenmyst » July 26th, 2009, 8:57 pm

Barry, I remember that so well. It is sad that it takes an atrocity for people to be humane to each other. But then kindness isn't the overriding aspect of human nature.

John

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Post by Barry » July 26th, 2009, 9:11 pm

But, John, it is...It is the overriding aspect of human nature. That's what makes us human. All animals display kindness, if you're open to seeing it. Humans do, too. It's just that we do it more than most. How could we live in such large communal groups (cities) if this were not true? Yes, there is much savagery and brutality, but kindness is the tempering agent that keeps us all alive. Please, don't lose sight of this, John. Focus on it. It's important.

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Post by goldenmyst » July 26th, 2009, 9:30 pm

In a world beleaguered by brutality your words are comforting. The jury is still out on whether our rational civilized nature will overcome our horrific cruelty. After one of the bloodiest centuries in history the verdict is still to be decided. However, like you, I hope for a good outcome. :)

John

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Post by mtmynd » July 27th, 2009, 7:44 pm

walt's short but touching memoir verifies good is still out there, even thriving amidst a city of "8,363,710, an increase of more than 355,000 persons or 4.4 percent since April 2000." [google info]

humanity is decent and caring and yes, there are the lost and scared that somehow may never fit in, but with decency and respect, perhaps even these lost souls may agree that humanity is alright.
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Post by justwalt » July 28th, 2009, 9:42 am

It is said that man's consciousness coexists with a universal
consciousness, which in turn relates with the creator's intent...
and as the scientific community dives deeper into the quantum
connections, they are proving this existence.

Vibrations seem to be the means by which the creator knows all...
which I tie to Edgar Cayce's abilities to tap into. The book of life,
he said, contains every thought and action, that ever happened,
and, there must be some way that future thoughts and acts can be
projected into this vibratory record. This makes perfect sense to me,
since in this particular universe, every single bit of matter vibrates.

And like ripples in a pond, the creator senses any movements from
its creations. I think "the big picture", is infinitely larger than we
ever thought it might be.

Where we can affect the future of man, I believe, is in our actions
and thoughts...and does anyone feel something big happening in
our near future? I certainly do. The Hopi Indians call it the great
purification...which sounds threatening. But I believe we can think
and act our way out of danger...together.

And this internet thingy is the perfect way to connect more minds
together for the purpose of sending more positive vibes into the
universal consciousness, showing the creator that we're making
progress. When we tip the scale toward the negative, or evil, we
see great disasters occurring throughout history.

There is already a huge turn-around in human thinking toward the
positive... can we create the Heaven on Earth? I think yes. The
change that has happened in NYC since 9/11 is astounding when
we look at the city prior to that.

This "trend" must continue on a global scale... we have the ball
rolling, now we need to increase its momentum.

walt

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Post by mtmynd » July 28th, 2009, 11:10 am

Vibrations seem to be the means by which the creator knows all...
strictly for the sake of discussion, Walt -

this sentence implies this creator, as you call 'it', is dependent upon these vibrations, which would presume the vibrations came before this 'creator'. i'm pretty sure you don't mean that..? vibrations can only be from matter... the physical presence of all things and stuff. IMHO the Great Silence (the Void) preceded that of the material and the Great Silence is what keeps all matter together in this spinning ball that science understands is continually expanding.

who created the creator is certainly the ultimate question when we presume that there is/was an initial causation that began all things, so to speak. however any original cause, should there have been one, certainly had a far greater intent to 'create this vast and seemingly infinite universe' than just for hu'man benefit. our physical bodies, the vessel of the Light, which is within every living thing, great and small, is but a mote in the mystery that shall always remain so. our mind is unable to fully comprehend the entirety of existence... it wasn't made to do that.

"... the creator knows all..." would be better expressed as "is all", wouldn't you agree? knowing is what mind attempts to do every moment of our lives... questions upon questions upon more questions to hopefully 'know' that which mind wants us to know. Is not experience a far more reliable a measurement to attain the knowledge we seek?

Re: The book of life, aka the Akashic Record, where all knowledge, past, present and future, is stored. The universe is beyond time and space, as those are measurements for our hu'man mind in an attempt to connect the dots of life into something beyond a mystery. but every vibration that has emanated from our planet is still vibrating far into our universe... as does the vibrations of every planet, every constellation, every galaxy, every meteor and asteroid and even black holes... all emit vibrations and have been doing so eternally (or close to it!)... all this vibration is collectively a 'library of existence' or the Book of Life which transcends time and space, past, present and future conceptualizations.
does anyone feel something big happening in our near future?
indeed, I also feel something big developing, like birth pains that are signals of 'something' coming in the near future. what it is is dependent upon our perceptions, I think. Let's hope this 'it' will benefit our planet and it's inhabitants, eh?
This "trend" must continue on a global scale... we have the ball rolling, now we need to increase its momentum.
I take the Buddhist view that everything is perfect. To me a ball is indeed rolling and it's inertia is not caused by us but rather a natural occurrence and if we are tuned in clearly, without static, we simply go along for the ride. those that attempt to control this ride, will not complete it. ;)

Thx, Walt, for the inspiration... we may use different words but I think we see the same destination.
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Post by justwalt » July 28th, 2009, 1:04 pm

Amen...as to the void, wasn't it described in ancient times as being
FULL? Or containing all? From what I understand in our newly...
re-discovered thought, this void is FULL of the stuff that makes the
transmission of ...energies possible. The void is where the ancients
looked to for insights, combined with a vast variety of other celestial
influences.

The vibrations occur on the tiniest scale, even in photons, which at
any given time can change from a particle to a wave form. What is
settled enough in my mind, for my wanting to believe, is that there
is nothing , ever, anywhere, that is disconnected from anything else.

And about which came first, vibrations or god... I think whatever
system that exists and works, is the only way it can work... and
in that, I believe it to be designed as such.

Our universe and everything in it is electrical in nature...move one electron
in New York, and it is noticed billions of light years away... in every direction.

As for where exactly any or part of the akashic record may be, it
too can certainly operate in an electrical sense. The universe then
becomes a huge memory chip.

I have concluded through all that I learned, that as much as I am
seeking..."god", I am running off on a tangent. It will soon be
time for me to stop the seeking for evidence, and start acting on
what I believe to be true.

In the end, I don't think "god" cares too much that we know the
technical aspects of everything... just that we join in, and bring
our spiritual beings back into communion.

I would be just as happy to be a tree...maybe a bush.


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Post by Barry » July 28th, 2009, 3:46 pm

Is not experience a far more reliable a measurement to attain the knowledge we seek?
Truth here beyond par. I've read book after book after book, but only through direct experience have I ever really learned anything.
I have concluded through all that I learned, that as much as I am
seeking..."god", I am running off on a tangent. It will soon be
time for me to stop the seeking for evidence, and start acting on
what I believe to be true.
Indeed. I've got some work to do in applying this.

Thanks you guys. Every little bit helps.

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Post by justwalt » July 28th, 2009, 4:24 pm

Scientists will say that we have evolved through whatever process
to the point that humans are the way that the universe has become
aware of itself.... and that was a big distraction for me, for awhile.

And experience, I think, is what the individual spirit wants, loves or
thinks it needs. Desire has its good and bad point... toss in the
human...lust, and we have today's world, as we know it.

walt

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Post by Barry » July 28th, 2009, 5:40 pm

Ever met Lust Incarnate, Walt?
I have.
It ain't pretty.
That's just the way I see it.

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Barry

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Post by justwalt » July 28th, 2009, 11:30 pm

I would have to say no, because just the thought is giving me the
shivers up my back, and... never mind. I have other pet monsters.
I write about them now and again...look back maybe six months...

walt

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Post by mtmynd » August 2nd, 2009, 11:34 am

Walt-
Amen...as to the void, wasn't it described in ancient times as being
FULL? Or containing all? From what I understand in our newly...
re-discovered thought, this void is FULL of the stuff that makes the
transmission of ...energies possible. The void is where the ancients
looked to for insights, combined with a vast variety of other celestial
influences.
It can be said, poetically speaking, the void is the womb of all things. From this nothingness every thing comes into being and shall ultimately return.
What is settled enough in my mind, for my wanting to believe, is that there is nothing , ever, anywhere, that is disconnected from anything else.
Metaphsically true and hence the Hindu/Buddhist concept of illusion, that thinly disguised presence that is veiled by our own reality which is ego based and has prevented us from 'seeing' the true interconnectedness of life, that singular process that is multi-dimensional and beyond mind's capability of every fully knowing. To realize the Truth one must step outside Mind's limitations... into the Void, if you will.
In the end, I don't think "god" cares too much that we know the technical aspects of everything... just that we join in, and bring
our spiritual beings back into communion.
When we 'think god' we stifle ourselves into creating some 'thing' which may have a gender, which may have senses that see, hear and touch us, we even may create god(s) that reside somewhere up, up and away and has qualities much like our own... but Truth is not about a belief or disbelief in any god(s), but an awakening of our original being that recognizes the oneness of life. How can we 'join in' when we're already joined as one? ;)

Thx, Walt...
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