I get so bored with long intellectual discussions about God

Go ahead. Talk about it.
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Post by mtmynd » August 15th, 2009, 8:28 pm

I don't understand what you are saying.
this word/concept we call 'god' cannot be intellectualized. but our intellects continue to attempt to intellectualize something which is much greater than our intelligence.

this i call: over-intellectualizing.

aliens from other constellations will find it child's play to destroy we humans - simply play with our intellect... as they have done for centuries.
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Post by still.trucking » August 16th, 2009, 12:56 am

ten four Cecil
that is what he is saying.



But god is only half of what he is talking about

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automaton: a mechanism that can move automatically
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Post by Doreen Peri » August 16th, 2009, 1:01 am

How about a short stupid discussion about God?

I'll go first.

GOD is 3 letters.

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Post by still.trucking » August 16th, 2009, 1:04 am

Stupid is good for me
I can do stupid.

god is a one syllable word
Golem is a two syllable word
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Post by Doreen Peri » August 16th, 2009, 1:08 am

Golem?

I'm stupid.

Have no clue what that means.

Oh crap! I can't even do a short stupid discussion and appear I have any intelligence.

oh well

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Post by still.trucking » August 16th, 2009, 1:39 am

At this point I can hardly understand what he is saying but I am very interested in learning more. I don't have no truck with the devil except for the occasional Grateful Dead song but Golem is something I can believe in.

I think he is more concerned in what we are doing to science, making it into a religion. We got creationists in white lab coats on TV for crying out loud. Hey if a scientist says Fred Flinstone drove a dinosaur to work well
you know

Credo quia absurdum:

I can't hardly follow him. I can't read the Latin Like I told Cecil I used to be smart

I read his first book forty years ago. But I could never do it now. Too many brain cells gone by the way I suppose.






From my childhood memory Golem is not a good thing. It is an evil thing. My grandmother was a peasant woman from Poland full of old wives tales 8) She was always watching out none should put the evil eye on me. She believed in Golem. But I don't remember one adult in my family ever telling me to be good or I would go to hell. I don't even remember anyone ever mentioning an after life. It was all pretty much here and now for them. Life can be heaven or hell I guess.



Life is heaven or hell
life is what you make it
is it?

What I will never know is why life is hell for some people through no fault of their own that I can see.

That's just life
"and Jesus Christ died for nothing I suppose."

It was a bad title for this thread, but IF I change it now, it would fuck up every bodies replies.
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Post by still.trucking » August 16th, 2009, 1:52 am

Sorry for the long ramble and I did not answer your question which escapes me at the moment at to what your question was. Oh yes

What is Golem

Short answer is Golem is the computer.



this one I am using now.

Which for a long time I considered a silicon pal of mine, a neato thaumaturgical writing machine.

But lately I begun to see it as Golem.

Might be a story in there somewhere.

just shooting the breeze
thanks for taking the time to reply

thank you for asking


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Post by stilltrucking » August 16th, 2009, 2:34 am

Sorry Jacob

Maybe I should have titled this learning machines.

I lost it.
Whatever this was going to be about it had not much to do with whose god is greater. Not much to do with Palestinians and Israeli's either.


I will be back when I read that book. That could be awile. I am a slow reader sometimes. "Life Against Death" , I been reading that for over thirty years.

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Post by mtmynd » August 16th, 2009, 7:33 pm

"Life Against Death" , I been reading that for over thirty years.
That's damn near a lifetime... Is the book still holding up? It's probably pretty much a classic by now, isn't it?
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Post by stilltrucking » August 17th, 2009, 1:33 am

That's damn near a lifetime
Thirty years was once a ripe old age to live to, I have read.

By some strange coincidence it is also how long it has been since I have slept with a woman. I cast a virtual I Ching on line asking "Fuck" And I got this picture. But I think it does not apply to me because it said "The superior man" and I am as common as dirt.
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Life Against Death is holding up pretty good for a paperback. The binding is still good. Better than my copy of "The Faith of A Heretic", a book I have only been reading for about six or seven years and its binding is shot and the pages are coming loose..

Life Against Death was a textbook used in the Honors program in the Psychology Department of The University of Maryland in 1972. 1972 was my last year of college. When my long and distinguished career as a college sophomore finally came to an end. In what was to become my summer of spider love.

I am reading Wiener's book as we speak. He was no bodies fool, unlike Robert Oppenheimer. Wiener wanted no truck with the Manhattan project.

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Unfortunate title for this thread. I should have called it Learning Machines maybe.
I once made myself a learning machine out of matchboxes. That was a long time ago. So long ago it seems like another lifetime
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Post by mtmynd » August 17th, 2009, 10:48 am

By some strange coincidence it is also how long it has been since I have slept with a woman.
Not sure if that's coincidental or not, truck. There may be a mystical connection between "Life Against Death" and the death of your sex life... especially since you haven't finished the book. It'd be really wonderful if you finished the book and then slept with a woman, wouldn't it? I think so...
When my long and distinguished career as a college sophomore finally came to an end.
That's a really great line. My own college career was about as successful. I believe it was spring 1969, I returned to college after 4 years in the Navy on the GI bill. I was taking an English class and the professor had the class write a paper on whatever subject we wanted to write about. Because of some experiences I had with Eastern religions/philosophies in my late teens and Navy I picked the subject, Yoga. I was in the college library and found a book by Paramahansa Yogananda... someone I was familiar with but this was an interesting read, much of it his biography (he was the first Yogi who came to America to speak about Yoga and was embraced by many folks who got him publicized)... I checked it out and began reading it. I became enthralled with the reading... so much so that college took second place in my interest. I never went back but continued reading the book... it was a treasure to me. College just couldn't compete with it.

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Nexagram 69-7+2 - soo....eee!

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Of course, I'm being an asshole. But you know that. There is no nexagram, per se, other than the word here, which means nothing. but i do like the picture and your post reminded me of this picture.
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Post by stilltrucking » August 17th, 2009, 1:08 pm

Sorry I did not mean to say I have not finished the book. I meant to say I have been reading "Life Against Death" for over thirty years. Maybe the way some people keep re-reading the holy bible. I tend to do that with books that interest me. The Bell Jar, another 30 year book.

I remember the pictue of the pecan grove. I liked it a lot and the stream it was juxtaposed with too
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I only wish my sex life was dead. I could have had a lot of women over that time Cecil. But I did not want the ones who wanted me. I only wanted the ones I could not have. So my friends have told me.

Nothing to do with Golem but I been into bestiality lately. But I draw the line at mammals, no amphibians or reptiles although I have known truckers who would fuck a snake if you held its head. There was an elephant in the circus I worked for that I still remember fondly the stirring in my loins when she put my hand in her mouth and sucked on it.

Have you ever watched tigers fuck. Interesting... She is swiping at him with her paws and growling and snapping and he gingerly comes up behind her and takes her throat in his jaws and and she calms down as if to say "okay if we got to do this lets just get it over with and get the fuck off of me." And when he is done he gets off fast because she takes another swipe at him with her claws.
Reminds me to Ted Hughes and Sylvia Plath
''And when he kissed my neck I bit him long and hard on the check, and when we came out of the room blood was running down his face. His poem "I did it, I." Such violence, and I can see how women lie down for artists.

Yep, I still think about sex every six seconds. That is about average according to bennie.

Men Think About Sex Every Six Seconds


Still trying to figure out who my dream lover is, the woman in the shadows of my dreams. Sometimes I think it is silent woman's eldest daughter or maybe silent woman herself.

"The princess does not marry the butcher boy"
my mother to me a long time ago.
Yes indeed.
She learned me good.
She broke my heart only twice
I had it coming.

Oh well, what the hell was this thread about anyway? Something boring I think.
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Post by Jacob » August 19th, 2009, 4:27 pm

still.trucking wrote:Sorry about the confusion. I think I gave this thread a bad title. My shitty sense of humor. :(
No need to fret, since I'm not even confused or offended. ;) Mayhaps I should be reading yon books...

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