Sunday School in the rear view mirror of a 67 mustang

Post by **stilltrucking** » November 29th, 2009, 7:41 am

John Paul Ziller was born in Africa.

It shocked me the first time I walked into a black church and saw a black Jesus. But who knows, now it makes a lot of sense to me.

Not sure if this is working out or not. To many dots missing, John Paul Ziller was born in Africa, lived there three months or so before his missionary parents moved him back to the USA. But when he and his friends would play Tarzan games, Ziller was the expert on Africa because he was born there. And I know all about Jesus because my mother was a Jewess too. Ah them Jewish girls, god liked liked them Jewishi virgins bettter than the Vestal virgins, didn't it.

Who knows what happened two thousand years ago. Well I guess we do because the New Testament tells us so.
Never was my book, not enough poetry in it to suit me. But maybe I should read it before I judge its cover.

One thing is sure old Pontius had plausable deniability. And we would have no really good Ho Wood horror movies without the Catholic Church.

You make me feel like a fortunate son nazz to be spared all that. But when I am burning in some Christian hell I will probably regret that.

If Henry IV thought Paris is worth a mass than sunday school must be worth a 67 mustang...

I been feeling like one of those jerks this morning I am going to delete this.

Post by **the mingo** » November 29th, 2009, 10:58 am

Don't do it Jack. You're always good but you're best when edgy and on the move.

Post by **mtmynd** » November 29th, 2009, 12:52 pm

I'm with el mingo, truck... leave this piece be.... it won't hurt anyone.

Post by **stilltrucking** » November 30th, 2009, 5:28 am

it is too late

Thinking about Vela
And the Earth circling our sun
as we all flow towards Vela in the darkness of space

I have no sense of place
this is all holy land to me

Post by **SadLuckDame** » November 30th, 2009, 11:18 pm

I must of missed what was erased.
Beautiful space though.
I don't know where to go.

Post by **tinkerjack** » December 1st, 2009, 8:02 am

What I meant by "too late" is that I had already deleted it from nazz's post on creative board

I also deleted this one too.
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nazz wrote

even the Romans couldn’t figure why Jesus came to deserve the death penalty (he didn’t). Pilate found the spectacle worthy of hand-washing, perhaps hand-wringing. Perhaps he feared for his safety. History is a peculiar thing. I hear people debating the truth of thirty years ago; how could we look back two-thousand years in perfect detail?

and I replied and deleted this

Yeah how about those god damed chirst killing jews. At leas we can agree on that.

Jesus was a PITA to the roman hierarchy.
Pilate instituted a disinformation scheme to work the jews into a frenzy so that they supported his crucifixion.
Then he iconically "washed his hands" to divest himself of responsibility.

It's probably the earliest recorded case of a government agent contriving "plausible deniability".

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 850AAik50j

Post by **one of those jerks** » December 2nd, 2009, 6:08 am

Not much we can know for sure
Except what we read in the Holy Scripture
No doubts about that
Those Noble Romans
The Church Fathers
would never lie
except to themselves

The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception.
Friedrich Nietzsche

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mgaICZS79Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwINCeAr38

Jesus is easy for me,

What above all makes him my highway hero, he was compassionate to women.

He knew them and respected them

I am just a wannabee jazz man

Post by **mtmynd** » December 2nd, 2009, 7:59 pm

"I am just a wannabee jazz man"

You are. Your improvisational writings bear witness to the jazz that flows within in you and streams boundlessly from your fingertips without conscience, self or otherwise.

Want no longer, amigo, just continue being such as you are. You really have no choice, you know.

Post by **stilltrucking** » December 2nd, 2009, 9:31 pm

Thank you Cecil.

I was thinking about this song

I’m easy to get to and I’m easy to keep

I’m easy to please
easy to please
When you’re a Jazzman you get easy to please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopenXoI4mI

Post by **SadLuckDame** » December 2nd, 2009, 11:37 pm

Pilate instituted a disinformation scheme to work the jews into a frenzy so that they supported his crucifixion.
Then he iconically "washed his hands" to divest himself of responsibility.

It's probably the earliest recorded case of a government agent contriving "plausible deniability".

I'd never known that. I mean, I knew Pilate washed his hands, but that was as far as I'd known. Thanks for being a good teacher man trucker. I learn something new every day.

You'd mentioned before you haven't read much of the new testament.
I was raised mostly on the old testament 'ways', and today it scares me and I guess I'd rather just read red and believe Jesus a hippy or sumpin'. I'm scared a lot.
I gotta figure out how to get past it.

Post by **tarbaby** » December 3rd, 2009, 12:14 am

mingo is the bible scholar Dame
I don't know if it is true
but it is possible I think

mingo went on at some length about the trial of Jesus. Mingo says the trial of Jesus was illegal because it was held at night.
I don't know where he got his information

From the Church Fathers?

From my research so far i have found out that the first extant copy of the New Testament dates back to around 350 AD. A lot of time elapsed did anyone spin the facts?
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/manus ... px?book=33

Mingo is concerned about the injustice done to his native american ancestors and I agree.
I am a bit concerned about the suffering of my tribe too, so much of it goes back to that New Testament.

I don't know the truth. But I believe Santayana is right. Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect.

Why should I trust the church fathers of two thousand years ago anymore than I trust the Bishops of Ireland who brought us the Magadalene Laundries. It don't sound like My Jesus to me.

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Post by **SadLuckDame** » December 3rd, 2009, 12:24 am

Alls I know is I can't believe in religion any more. Religion is what got me, not the Bible, just the churches, the pastors, the herds. I don't think it has anything to do with a personal God, everyone is entitled to have their God. The problem is, people tend to 'herd', they act together regardless of if they completely agree internally with what scene is happening. A herd is very dangerous. A herd has painful outcomes, and people aren't following their guts any longer or their God if they follow a leader and unity. That is what I'm against. I'll not follow, I'll go on gut and I need to make my gut as loud as possible so I can hear it even during chaos.

Post by **tarbaby** » December 3rd, 2009, 4:44 am

The problem is, people tend to 'herd', they act together regardless of if they completely agree internally with what scene is happening. A herd is very dangerous.

There it is.

Nothing drives a mob like having a scapegoat.

Sometimes I need religion. Sometimes I need magic too.

I trust mingo. I would not bring these things up with him if I did not.
I believe he is a man who can forget about words. I know Cecil can, I have not known mingo as long as Cecil but I have decided to trust him.

Post by **SadLuckDame** » December 3rd, 2009, 8:47 am

My desire is to help free women from husband control, women who won't think for themselves and to try to heal little broken children.
I know it's small. Everyone has something they'd like to do to help and I guess it's what I'm capable of handling.

Post by **stilltrucking** » December 3rd, 2009, 9:24 pm

I don't know anything about husband control. I have never been married. I am just trying to free myself. If I can do that I will help free my sisters and their children.

After myself all I write about is women and children.

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