Thread etiquette.

[mousey1]

I hate dangling on the end of someone else's thread!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel left out in the cold, my comments dejected and rejected.

Makes me feel, I dunno, kinda exposed.

I think it behooves the thread starter to be the last speaker, always, and not leave the kindly responder twisting on the end of their string like a dern fool. Even if that which said responder said is completely arseholish.(as this last sentence for example).

Does anyone else feel this way? or sigh, am I just too sensitive. I suspect it's the latter but would like to be sure.

[judih]

i appreciate your feeling of exclusion, it's nice to be welcomed and kissed goodbye at the end of the session.

Sometimes, the starter has, however, left town or been called back for immediate therapy.

Please, take this into account - it's not you

(i hope to bloody kriste you answer this - i'm already dialling my shrink)

[Doreen Peri]

i can't keep up. is it me? have i missed an answer? have i been dismissive? have i followed the breath of air i dared to take then found myself awake without having answered an inquiry? i am lost at sea, free like a calalilly on the top of a page, yellow-tinted, coming through a soiled earth garment, blood of soldiers, blood of diety, blood of heartthrob letting seeping into fertilization for roots or imaginative veins but i can't keep up. is it me? have i missed an answer? have i been dismissive? sane? have i rearranged thoughts with digits and shadows or blamed the wind for my demise or yours? what word could i have better interpreted? what significance could i be more attached to? what position am i in for determining any of this? what defiance do i have engaged to answer? no-one listens to the deaf...

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whew... you inspred me.. thank you....

yes, i feel the same, but people come and people go.... they're here, then not... it's the way life is... i think judih's right... they can't see what goes on all the time in order to reply and so it's never intentional that your posts get unanswered.....

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<b>people come and people go</b>

people come and people go
through a door goodbye hello
shadows of some broken dreams
never was the way it seems
into lives, some enter still
through the gate atop the sill
people come and people go
in and out of lives in flow

books of lists of lanes and drives
fill address books of our lives
phones which do not ring again
passioned phrases of the pen
letters sealed and sent with scent
eves in the believing spent
sometimes we won't ever know
people come and people go

eras pass from birth to grave
nothing left for us to save
lovers leave within a mist
as if lips were never kissed
words are words sometimes they lie
stick a needle in my eye
nothing more to know you know
people come and people go

once upon a dream now stale
someone wrote a fairy tale
love can happen just for you
you will fit the small glass shoe
you're the only one you know
people come and people go
my love's true you're my plateau
people come and people go

trust me now, believe i'm real
i don't lie no love to steal
i give my whole heart to you
you're the only one it's true
would i lie? oh no i won't
now you see me now you don't
people disappear from view
nobody will lie to you

people come and people go
seasons turn and comes the snow
ice on hearts which did entwine
always yours but never mine
everbody tells the truth
see your disappearing youth
vanish in the ebb and flow
people come and people go

alone again in mirrors seen
face cries out where is doreen
gone again in solitaire
people lost within her stare
nothing left to know you know
people come and people go

dp 1/24/2001

[judih]

like a yellow callalily - all responses are a response to my words
for the syllables that come from me, feed the whole
spice the entire
offer a kickstart to someone else's thoughts

and so, i sit back and watch what happens
and i'm grateful for all that energetic flow

[Doreen Peri]

i remember when i imagined myself schitzophrenic, garnering meaning from televised events, advent being the meter of walking on water, congruant with the doesn't-matter-of-it-all, when there i was and this dove came and sat on my arm and i was like, WOWOW, it's a dove, and it was like, "sofuckingwhat? i'm a dove? big deal" and i was like "right, man, whatever, " and he just looked at me [the dove] and said in his own cooing way, "come come come come," and so i did but it wasn't like his kickstart was to any other thoughts i didn't have before, it was more of a thing that i was invited, anyway, and goddammit, it's good to be offered a chair, good to be there and want to dare the universe to care, lie down on a garden bed to be fed by soil

i love you judih
i am thankful and grateful,

both being similar words, yet not synonomous,

for
YOU


[gnight]

[judih]

good night
and yes, you're right.
the dove was there
and had always been there

the callalily is here and has always been
my words? mine? mine have been here
and were here long before i chose to use them

nothing's mine for long, but i do take pleasure in thinking i do
i want that callalily in front of my view

and i sit alongside the night of the east coast
in a smile borrowed from you

[stilltrucking]

I hate dangling on the end of someone else's thread

It Depends on the angle of the dangle.

(Fudd's First Law of Opposition) FireSign

garnering meaning from televised events,

When I was crazy I found a lot of meaning in Firesign Theatre, they did so much TV schtick. I suppose it was just drug humor of the seventies but it sure cured me with lots of good laughs

cj

[mousey1]

Lovefest Lovefest Lovefest. Judih and Doreen, get a room!!!!! Heh, heh, I am soooo baaaad.

Thank-you both for your kind and supremely elegante words. You're really stylin' there Doreen. You know, you two really should write this stuff down. It's good!

I gotta follow that thread wherever that thread may lead me.(singing here btw)

Anyway, Judih, I have no prob dangling on the end of anyone's thread for a few days, weeks, but krikey! at some point these threadstarters should wrap up their loose ends. It's almost flighty the way some post threads and then flit off elsewhere, yes, without a kiss or a lookback. By the by I have been guilty of this myself and it has always niggled me, I am ashamed and contrite. But, I've had an epiphany, I shall go and sin no more.....from now on no one shall ever be left dangling from anything of mine. Let's face it, if we care enough to start a thread we should care enough to finish it.

Doreen said, "whew....you inspred me....thank you..."
I did no such thing, and shall deny it to my grave!

stilltrucking: "the angle of the dangle" hunh
Well, good advice must be heeded.....
I shall try, but frankly I have never been very acrobatic.
"When I was crazy...." aren't we all still , that's what makes it so much fun. Sane people are so boring.

Thanks for responding all. I don't feel quite so alone.

[stilltrucking]

wouldn't be nice to lock your back door so nobody else could leave one more post dangling,


oh yeah old man waylon sang if I wasn't crazy I would go insane,
As I age and cure like lump of blue cheese, my threshold of boredom gets higher and higher.

No thankyou, I don't want no more of that crazy, i would rather be bored. My crazy was a bad crazy.
There was no music, no sound track, the silence interupted by the splash of tears ticking from a broken clock, now after all those lonely years I am still alive.


I think all this talk aboot cowlilies just makes me crazy

how come Carrie Fisher has too poles and I only have one
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Human behavior is overdetermined. Freud

[mousey1]

Mornin' still.

No, no, you don't lock the back door. It's more akin to tossing out the welcome mat. It's tantamount to mousey1 saying, "Come on back anytime, you'll not be ignored."

I don't care who it is, nobody likes being the last dangler. One might act all gusto and bravado about it, but really it's a feeling of joining a convo only to be totally ignored, eternally......that's wrong wrong wrong I say.

Ever been 'midst a group of people chattering up a storm and then you pipe up and it's as tho you never spoke. Not a nice feeling, no sirree. Anyway, that's my point, we're people here, it's same same as in real life, it's easy to forget I suppose, when you're just looking at words, but there's someone behind each and every one of 'em, someone who thinks they have something to say, even if it may be considered of un-import to others.

I sound like I'm whinin' here.......
But I'm not! I'm nnnnnnooooooottttttttttttt!
Pass the cheese. I love the cheese.......

And no still, bad crazy is not good. Sorry you had such a rough time of it. I can't really savvy what it must have been like, as I haven't walked a mile.....but your fine words paint the pic pretty well. And yet I believe there is good crazy and that's what we should be aiming for.....normal seems overrated, tho I s'pose it's all in the eye of the beholder.

Nice talkin' to you still.

[Doreen Peri]

mousey1 - I think you should write a book called "Threadiquette." I've seen people talk about this topic on various discussion boards on the net. It's a hot topic!

My pet peeve is when my posts get passed by entirely. When people carry on a conversation on a thread and the originator of the thread doesn't take the time to acknowledge that I took the time to read the post and reply. It should be common courtesy to say "thanks for your comment" or *anything* to acknowledge the people who replied, even if it's only a nod.

Another thing is, I think people who stop by a discussion board to post their own work, should also take the time to reply to a couple of other topics on the boards, not just to the comments to their own thread. I've been guilty of this myself.

Let's see... what else could we include in the book, "Threadiquette"? hmmmmm... (I say "we" because if you don't write it, I might... LOL!.... or maybe we could collaborate and write it together, if you're interested.) It could be a best selling guideline for discussion board addicts all around the world! Just think of it! Maybe it could pay for our retirement! Or at least the electric bill for a couple of months, anyway.

The book could also discuss how some boards won't let you use multiple usernames and why the webmasters made that decision. (I don't see anything wrong with it, myself, but I'm in a minority on the issue, I'm pretty sure.)

It could include a chapter about trolls and why they attack boards and explore what they are trying to accomplish. You'll have to write that chapter if we're going to collaborate, because I don't have a clue. I'd love to read it, though!

It could have a chapter on how webmasters frown upon spam but they can eliminate what they perceive as a spam problem by encouraging their members to promote their own sites and work by setting up an Announcements and/or Links forum.

There are really a myriad of topics which could be covered in this book... all of which would be interesting to both webmasters and discussion board addicts.

It could cover net-life experiences (names changed to protect the guilty.)

It could explore what I call "The Future of the Internet," where many websites collaborate with each other, such as we're doing with our Word Jams with the Scroll. Because this really is ONE big place, just like the world is one big place and we're all here together, so it seems only right that websites would share resources and open their doors to each other for collaborative events, etc.

ohhhhh... I like this idea!

"Threadiquette - Net Talk for the Discussion Board Aficiando" .... I don't think I spelled that right. Oh well.

Whaddya think? hmmmm?

[stilltrucking]

DP Mousey I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't loose much sleep worrying about my posts being ignored. I been at this text based community thing a few years. I used to post my dick head posts from time to time. I made a lot of them to firecrakeradiah and that onther evel genuis at litkicks. Stooopid, If you think I am a bad boy now
But i been going with a simple test, I read a lot of posts that hit me hard and when people have made eloguent posts in reply to it and I have nothing to add I sit on my hands. I appreciate your pity and pardon my sick sense of humor. I really should use more emoticons, and tell me if I annoy you. Tell me if I post a lot of stuff that is not interesting, if I occasionaly say something interesting please ignore those. But to tell the truth it is really only DP I worry about, just trying to be low maintenance here.
Listen this has nothing to do with anything but is every one on this string except me a woman? I think women should make it clear if they do not want any man posting to there strings. I got no problem with that.

DP this is my last dangle on this string.

[Doreen Peri]

Listen this has nothing to do with anything but is every one on this string except me a woman? I think women should make it clear if they do not want any man posting to there strings. I got no problem with that.

I love it when men post to my threads! All women love it when men post to their threads! Don't they? I thought they did. Hell, I love it when women post to my threads, too. Come to think of it, I'd be pleased if dogs & cats could post to my threads.

hehe

[stilltrucking]

I lot of times I don't reply to your post right away is because I am waiting to see what Clay might write. I reply to posts because I got too. I hope I have my raging vanity somewhat under control so I don't make as many stupid posts as I used too. I would like to delete my posts to Panta's "I thought I heard the sun" I don't know when she wrote that but it was so on time for me to read it that morning. I wished I had waited until I had something to say if only a thank you, I don't delete anymore because I always seem to get carried away.

Mousey I hope you get the last word here if you want it,

[mousey1]

T'would be a short book. Thin as my skin!

Your pet peeve is right on! Why start a thread if you don't want comments. And if you only want specific people to comment, only let's say, the intelligencia, the creme de la creme, those who you deign worthy, then you should iterate that at the beginning of your post. Something like:

"Long-haired, freaky people need not apply" their brains to responding as I could care less what you freaking have to say.

or

Why not list the names of acceptable respondees or ers, so us lowlifes not on the list won't venture in, even bother to waste our time.

I sound harsh, but I'm really not. I'm nnnnnooooottttttttt!

I sound bitter, but I'm not. I'm reeeeellllllllyyyyyyy nnnnooootttttt!

Tis only, as you say, common courtesy to give each and every one of us 'ponders a nod, as our time is precious too. It seriously smacks of rudeness. I'm sure these folks are merely unaware of the error of their ways, we must cut them some slack. Slip a little slack into their thread so they can hang themselves with it! Did I say that? No I did not! Oh yes I did? But I didn't really mean it..... I only play.

And while we're confessing....I'm sure that I've done it myself.

Now trolls. I don't know nuthin' 'bout trolls. I hear-tell that trolls like to break the backs of boards. I don't know their agendas, what their motivation is, but perhaps it results from a slight they suffered on that board at some time. Perhaps they seek revenge. Perhaps they are but outsiders of the "clique" and so appear to be trolls. I dunno, I dunno. As for perceived trolls on this board I see none. There is some history here that I am not privy to, grudges, but that does not a troller make. And some people's senses of humors are completely off the wall, such as mine sometimes, and should be taken as such. When in doubt take it as humor. Good rule of thumb. Hard to be offended when you're busy laughing.

This place is full of characters and I like characters.

Yes Doreen, we'll collaborate on this book....you write it, I'll read it. I'm so lazy.