Sunday Stream (242) ~ On Homosexuality

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Sunday Stream (242) ~ On Homosexuality

Post by mtmynd » April 11th, 2010, 10:18 am

On Homosexuality
(the irrational fears)
Booting up the Dell this morning as I do most mornings, I go to the news. I use MSNBC as I like there site. There in the upper right corner of the main page was an article "African gays are abused even in death" with a byline "A wave of homophobia washes across the continent." Even in death..? My curiosity is piqued and I click on the story. It's difficult for me to believe how stupid people can get.
Madieye Diallo's body had only been in the ground for a few hours when the mob descended on the weedy cemetery with shovels. They yanked out the corpse, spit on its torso, dragged it away and dumped it in front of the home of his elderly parents.

The scene of May 2, 2009 was filmed on a cell phone and the video sold at the market. It passed from phone to phone, sowing panic among gay men who say they now feel like hunted animals.


full article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36376840/ns ... ws-africa/
What drives anyone to dig up a body of a man who had been buried for only a few hours and do what they reportedly did? Sure, it's anger. We all get angry at times in our lives. But this degree of anger is curious, besides being foul and ridiculous... what degree of anger must people reach to dig up the dead, spit on their lifeless body and drag it away from the cemetery to this dead person's parents who are elderly and had to have been heartbroken to begin with from burying their son only hours before?
A wave of intense homophobia is washing across Africa, where homosexuality is already illegal in at least 37 countries.
"Intense homophobia" sounds like an understatement given what was done to this dead man. By outlawing consensual behavior between persons of legal age shows how out of control countries can get when they look for something to blame for their ills and dis-eases. When people become angry with their lives and how things are going with them certainly increases the anger levels. But putting blame on a faction of society that has always been amongst us... stupidity.
Even though homosexuality is illegal in Senegal, colonial documents indicate the country has long had a clandestine gay community. In many towns, they were tacitly accepted, says Cheikh Ibrahima Niang, a professor of social anthropology at Senegal's largest university. In fact, the visibility of gays in Senegal may have helped to prompt the backlash against them.
There is more to this backlash in Senegal than 'the visibility of gays' which is revealed as the article continues -
In March 2008, Senegal hosted an international summit of Muslim nations, which prompted a nationwide crackdown on behaviors deemed un-Islamic, including homosexuality.

The crackdown also coincided with spiraling food prices. Niang says political and religious leaders saw an easy way to reach constituents through the inflammatory topic of homosexuality.

"They found a way to explain the difficulties people are facing as a deviation from religious life," says Niang. "So if people are poor — it's because there are prostitutes in the street. If they don't have enough to eat, it's because there are homosexuals."
Note the keywords "un-Islamic," "spiraling food prices," "people are poor" and it shows how hu'man behavior has grabbed anything to remove some 'curse' they feel has been put on their lives that has caused these things to happen to them. Doing things against religious beliefs causes food prices to climb and make people poorer than they were. If they remove homosexuality that will be a great step forward to making Islam more powerful for the people, lower food prices and increase their personal wealth.

Of course, most of us know how foolish this sort of belief really is. It is using a poor and uneducated people to advance the gains of a religious belief. All religious beliefs utilize books that offer proof that their religions are worthy paths to follow. How could their founding leader be wrong if they said these words that show this leader was in touch with God? Even though Godallah made all things and created man in His image, homosexuality is abhorrent behavior that needs to be not only condemned but assaulted in the most un-Godly of methods. That will make Godallah very happy and everyone will have food and become rich. It works every time as history can prove. (pardon the sarcasm...)

The endless persecution towards the homosexuals amongst us may never be completely eliminated... hu'man emotions being as they are. But when the reaction reaches the levels they apparently have in many countries in Africa, one can only hope that level of intolerance stays in Africa for the sake of peace and acceptance of our own kind. It's becoming more and more apparent as our world becomes smaller and smaller, communications becomes more transparent and accessible, that our hu'manity lives lives of secrecy and lies. The more those lies and deceptions come to the forefront, the more we will have our faults and our fears to face. But fighting our own fears with violence and stupidity will do little to advance hu'manity.
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On 03 Aug 2003 I wrote this Stream :

"How old were you when you chose your sexual preference?"

America is now debating the pro's and con's of the homosexuality issue when it comes to whether gay folks can be married. An absurd debate that has no basis in any form of reality.

We are all - straight, gay, lesbian,, raised by one or more parents that may or may not have been married and may or may not have been gay, but homophobia persists. I know this is not something that can be eradicated overnight, but it certainly is something that should be brought up and confronted with understanding.

I am a straight man than has been propositioned by individual gay men more than once in my life... and I have had and do have friends that were gay/lesbian, people that are wonderful spirits, that have a great sense of humor and a joy for life... harmless, peace-loving people that intend no harm towards anyone.

Throughout my own life, I have learned that being gay was never a choice, just as my own sexual preference was never decided but just accepted. It's amazing to me that priests, politicians and homophobes expect the homosexual to change their attractions. It is also amazing to me that these same priests and politicians are made up collectively of both straight and homosexual people... the same people that condemn the lifestyle in the open, but sneak around in the shadows of their own alternative sexual preferences.

True, throughout the years the gays have come out of their closets and defied the prejudices... but the real problem is amongst the straight community and their double speak.

When a gay man hears a couple of straight men talking of having sex with some woman, they intrinsically shy away from the conversation because they do not have the same attraction ... and alternatively a conversation between two gays about another man will find the straight man at unease... that is normal within itself.

I have often thought that the extreme homophobe is more than likely a gay person himself, so much into the cover-up that it causes this violent behavior towards one that is at ease with their sexuality, a perverted envy so to speak, that lashes out against his own truth about himself that may have been conditioned thru his life by parental/relative upbringing along with peer pressures.
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There is no doubt that our sexuality is the most powerful drive we have, and yet we challenge and deny our very own desires... fight with our passions and use our minds to define what is right and what is wrong when it comes to sex.

Truth is that there is nothing wrong with any sexual behavior as long as the act is consensual with people of age-understanding. Given that level of sexual freedom, we have the ability to become more fully developed individuals that have a wider outlook of the world and a greater joy to live our lives according to our potential.
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Sex is the energy of Existence

that permeates all that we do.

Sex is the glue that binds us

into the community of Mankind.

Sex is the Gift of Life

when treated with Love

transforms us.

Sex is the Union of Species

of which Man stumbles

thru the darkness of unknowing

linked to the Mind as if it

were a choice of good or bad.

We will grow up or we will perish

in the Hell of our Ignorance.

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Post by Artguy » April 11th, 2010, 11:22 am

"We need great golden copulations...." Jim Morrison

kudos on your sensitivity and objectivity...

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Post by mnaz » April 11th, 2010, 6:47 pm

tough read. lots of truth here.

the point about scapegoating is a key one-- "things are bad because a certain they are not toeing the line somehow." applies to both religion and politics. today's rightist tele-pundits blame "the liberals" for every social problem, despite the fact that "liberals" in their purest form have been largely extinct for more than 20 years, and ignoring the deleterious contributions of the last 30+ years of predominantly "conservative" rule and policy.

in religion, as I pondered in my "dooby's road" rumination, the simple concept of god as an individual concern would go a long way toward neutralizing religion's long-running political and moral overreach and abuse. no individual or proprietary factional god vendettas or dogmatic absolutes projected on the collective please!

as for straight guys... why the hell should they care? worry about your own business. and besides, more women available, right?

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Post by Non Sum » April 12th, 2010, 9:39 pm

Very well stated, Cecil! :)

As regards mobs digging up former homosexual's corpses, there may be a large component of seeking social approval in a publicly declaritive act of one's militant heterosexuality. They could be trying to "prove" their heterosexual status to others, and even to themselves to some degree. This would conceivably be the "smart thing to do," in a pogrom, or witch hunt, setting; especially so for a gay, or simply effeminate, person. Ironic that many of those desecrating could well have been gay themselves.

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Post by Arcadia » April 12th, 2010, 11:07 pm

sad african story, Cecil... :(
and "straight" sounds so straight!! ... like as the other pole is twisted somehow... :roll:

gracias for the stream and the non-photo! :wink:

saludos!,

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Post by stilltrucking » April 13th, 2010, 8:51 am

The Heart of Darkness


Sex is ludicrous.
It is one of the reasons I don't believe in "intelligent design"

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Post by mtmynd » April 13th, 2010, 12:05 pm

mnaz: today's rightist tele-pundits blame "the liberals" for every social problem, despite the fact that "liberals" in their purest form have been largely extinct for more than 20 years, and ignoring the deleterious contributions of the last 30+ years of predominantly "conservative" rule and policy.

They (Conservative liars and deceivers) require a scapegoat to defend their preposterous stance that denies more than provides good will towards society. Their ilk brings Jesus into the political arena as if that is what will save them from their 'sins' of which there are a multitude.

NS: Ironic that many of those desecrating could well have been gay themselves.

Doubtlessly. Under this peer fear that they hide under provokes those unreasonable fears to counteract their own feelings thus giving them credence within those groups who appear to be the righteous among the citizens.

'V' : ... and "straight" sounds so straight!! ... like as the other pole is twisted somehow...

That made me laugh, arcadia. you are right! english has used that word 'straight' for so long when it comes to heterosexuality that we don't even question what that word symbolizes as you have done. :)

How does your society refer to the difference between 'gay and straight'?

JT: Sex is ludicrous.

Unless one is a voyeur. But even then... :lol:


Thank you much, all, for your replies on this sensitive topic.
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Post by mnaz » April 13th, 2010, 2:04 pm

hmmm... "straight." that's a really good point, Arcadia. never thought of that before.

does that idea also come into play in politics with "right" = conservative? hasn't the concept of "left" historically had some sort of "sinister" component to it? hmm..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinister

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Post by Non Sum » April 13th, 2010, 9:01 pm

Mnaz: hasn't the concept of "left" historically had some sort of "sinister" component to it? hmm..

NS: Yes, “sinister” means “left,” and is derived from Latin, which also has the term loaded with unfriendly forces. To augment your Wiki link:

The Old English word for ‘left’ was ‘winestra,’ etymologically meaning “friendlier.” But, don’t let that put you off the trail. The left side of the body was held as being ‘evil,’ and ‘friendlier’ was just a tricky way of placating evil (though, not being especially bright) forces.

There was also the Old English word ‘lyft.’ It meant, ‘weak’ or ‘foolish.’ It wasn’t until the 13th century that it took up partnership with ‘right.’ (‘Dictionary of Word Origins,’ John Ayto)

‘Straight’ of course opposes ‘bent,’ or ‘crooked’ as in 'an evil thieving crook.'

Cripes! Could the right-wing, straight, homophobes have had it right all along? Are we Lefties actually left here in the service of Satan, unbeknownst to our deluded, ‘friendlier,’ selves?

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Post by Arcadia » April 13th, 2010, 9:34 pm

Cecil: That made me laugh, arcadia. you are right! :lol: ok! :wink: Here the word "derecho" has a more expansive meaning in dialy talk far away from heterosexual but it includes it most of the time, I guess.. Words we use in fact: homosexual/gay (for homosexuales, bisexuales, transexuales...), heterosexuales for the resto. There are also a lot of words to name the homosexuals but not too much for the "rest" in the same context...

mnaz: does that idea also come into play in politics with "right" = conservative? hasn't the concept of "left" historically had some sort of "sinister" component to it? hmm..

oh, yeah... the unheimlich component! :lol: maybe! we have to ask the brits also about it (the places occupied for different social sectors in the parliament et al... ). And about sinister/left the words here are izquierda/o and zurdo/a, no idea if the have the same etimology though...
There was a saying here some decades ago "somos derechos y humanos" (we are right -with the meaning of straight- and human) joking?/confronting with the idea of "derechos humanos" (human rights).. well...:roll:

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Post by Arcadia » April 13th, 2010, 9:42 pm

Buenísimo non-sum! (I had to answer two phone calls while writing!: a friend and my upper neighbor... god...! :lol:). Can you investigate also about zurdo and izquierdo?

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Post by mtmynd » April 13th, 2010, 11:17 pm

NS: Cripes! Could the right-wing, straight, homophobes have had it right all along? Are we Lefties actually left here in the service of Satan, unbeknownst to our deluded, ‘friendlier,’ selves?

To listen to those "right-wing, straight, homophobes" one might think that but it's more likely that those same folks are not what they claim they are and we 'leftists' are more correctly right. ;)
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Post by Non Sum » April 14th, 2010, 9:45 am

Arcadia: (I had to answer two phone calls while writing!: a friend and my upper neighbor... god...! )

NS: Wow! “God, your upper neighbor” actually calls you on the phone!? Did She have anything to share about us: the few, the bent, the sinister, and the Satanic?

Arcadia: Can you investigate also about zurdo and izquierdo?

NS: In a word, ‘nada.’ “Izquierdo,” is that pronounced: ‘is queer-do’? If so, there just may be something derogatory lurking in the term.

MT: more likely that those same folks are not what they claim they are and we 'leftists' are more correctly right.

NS: Is that etymologically, literally, possible, for the left to be right? Are there sinister saints, and crooked straights?

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Post by mtmynd » April 14th, 2010, 9:51 am

NS: Is that etymologically, literally, possible, for the left to be right? Are there sinister saints, and crooked straights?

All things are possible thru the passage of time... ;)

btw: zurdo izquierdo = left handed
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Post by Arcadia » April 14th, 2010, 1:16 pm

NS: Wow! “God, your upper neighbor” actually calls you on the phone!? Did She have anything to share about us: the few, the bent, the sinister, and the Satanic?
well, my upper neighbor is a he and a lawyer. And I had the painter one week bothering me at siesta time trying to fix the mess he did to my ceiling last year... yeah, maybe he´s also god!... :roll: :lol:

zurdo/izquierdo´s word origin: prelatin, euzkera... meaning something near torpe... didn´t know about it! :wink:

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