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So what? I fucking smoke. Jesus.
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Oh one time in Ft. Worth, Texas, when I was ten, in 1957, we took a Sunday afternoon drive to the big Montgomery Ward store. It was a quiet and warm Sunday afternoon.
We walked to the seconf floor, looking around. I had to use the bathroom, so I went down this long hall and found a door that said, "WHITE MEN" an I went in an took a piss.
I left an was walking down the hall when I saw a water fountain with a sign that said, "WHITES ONLY" swear to god, I took a drink, then walked on down this hall, a great big wide hall and real high so that I sort of got lost and was wandering, all very quiet, no one around, and I saw this door that said, "COLORED MEN" and I opened the door and took a peek and saw a single long electric cord with an uncovered light bulb dangling down in the center of a room that was colored speckled purple.
I was stunned. I quietly closed the door, went back into the store into sunlight.
The next summer, I was 11, and had a lawn mowing route. I remember going up to the top of the hill to this drug store. It has that green glass and air conditioning that made it seem like Oz, and there was this black kid there. He said, "hi" and we shook hands. He said he was waiting for his mother and that he lived in Mosier Valley, he was ten. I told him I was 11 and I got my coke.
I guess it was my revelation, a simple quiet friend, no baseball or riding bikes or fishing, just a handshake and a hello.
Couple of years later, I went to L.D. Bell High School in Hurst. Mosier Valley was directly across the street, a black neighborhood, whose entryway was kitty corner from the front of the high school.
Those kids got bussed 30 miles west into the consolidated black school in Ft. Worthless.
oh year, when I was in the third grade in west Dallas, we went on a field trip to, where else, the Texas Schoolbook and Depository Bldg, and there was a bus of black kids in the parking lot and some of the white kids on my bus yelled "snowball" at the black kids.
in Vietnam, we had to wait on the black guys, the bloods, so they could do the "dap" yeah the ten minute handshake. Do th dap!
Then I embedded myself into Detroit. It was a hard livin, tho.
We walked to the seconf floor, looking around. I had to use the bathroom, so I went down this long hall and found a door that said, "WHITE MEN" an I went in an took a piss.
I left an was walking down the hall when I saw a water fountain with a sign that said, "WHITES ONLY" swear to god, I took a drink, then walked on down this hall, a great big wide hall and real high so that I sort of got lost and was wandering, all very quiet, no one around, and I saw this door that said, "COLORED MEN" and I opened the door and took a peek and saw a single long electric cord with an uncovered light bulb dangling down in the center of a room that was colored speckled purple.
I was stunned. I quietly closed the door, went back into the store into sunlight.
The next summer, I was 11, and had a lawn mowing route. I remember going up to the top of the hill to this drug store. It has that green glass and air conditioning that made it seem like Oz, and there was this black kid there. He said, "hi" and we shook hands. He said he was waiting for his mother and that he lived in Mosier Valley, he was ten. I told him I was 11 and I got my coke.
I guess it was my revelation, a simple quiet friend, no baseball or riding bikes or fishing, just a handshake and a hello.
Couple of years later, I went to L.D. Bell High School in Hurst. Mosier Valley was directly across the street, a black neighborhood, whose entryway was kitty corner from the front of the high school.
Those kids got bussed 30 miles west into the consolidated black school in Ft. Worthless.
oh year, when I was in the third grade in west Dallas, we went on a field trip to, where else, the Texas Schoolbook and Depository Bldg, and there was a bus of black kids in the parking lot and some of the white kids on my bus yelled "snowball" at the black kids.
in Vietnam, we had to wait on the black guys, the bloods, so they could do the "dap" yeah the ten minute handshake. Do th dap!
Then I embedded myself into Detroit. It was a hard livin, tho.
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Jim, I sure am glad I'm too young to have seen anything like that. I hate racism and bigotry or any kind.
(feels good to be too young for something, anyway)
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As for smoking... I smoke a LOT... almost 2 packs a day ... I need to stop.
It's an expensive, nasty, dirty, habit that makes the whole world turn into an ashtray. It makes my hair and clothes smell like smoke and I'm tired of doing it. I probably actually enjoy 3 or 4 cigarettes a day. The ones after meals and the one when I wake up in the morning with a cup of coffee. That's how I'm going to start. Eliminate all the other ones and only smoke those 3 or 4.
I have ulterior motives, which will also help. I have a 12-year-old daughter and she shouldn't be around the smoke. I also want to go back to the dance studio. And I want to sing. These three things should help me move forward toward my goal.
The problem is picking a date to start stopping. Every time I decide to pick one, there's something stressful coming up and I can't see myself as successful trying to stop during that time. This has to be mind over matter. I really need to pick a date.
Kayla, I wish you hadn't started and hope you don't get to be my age having smoked all of those years. It wears on the body, the voice, the skin and the pocketbook.
I am adament about not smoking around someone with health problems.
(feels good to be too young for something, anyway)
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As for smoking... I smoke a LOT... almost 2 packs a day ... I need to stop.
It's an expensive, nasty, dirty, habit that makes the whole world turn into an ashtray. It makes my hair and clothes smell like smoke and I'm tired of doing it. I probably actually enjoy 3 or 4 cigarettes a day. The ones after meals and the one when I wake up in the morning with a cup of coffee. That's how I'm going to start. Eliminate all the other ones and only smoke those 3 or 4.
I have ulterior motives, which will also help. I have a 12-year-old daughter and she shouldn't be around the smoke. I also want to go back to the dance studio. And I want to sing. These three things should help me move forward toward my goal.
The problem is picking a date to start stopping. Every time I decide to pick one, there's something stressful coming up and I can't see myself as successful trying to stop during that time. This has to be mind over matter. I really need to pick a date.
Kayla, I wish you hadn't started and hope you don't get to be my age having smoked all of those years. It wears on the body, the voice, the skin and the pocketbook.
I am adament about not smoking around someone with health problems.
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addicted smokers just don't get it: people have a right to "hassle" you if you are smoking in their vicinity because you are putting their health at risk. just as if someone is swingin a knife dangerously near your face, if somebody blowin smoke they should expect a response.
second, the defiant "cool" attitude whereby you think 'it's nobody's business but my own; besides it ain't gonna give ME cancer; besides, its worth cancer 'cause that tiny ciggie buzz is so damn gooood" is really stupid: it is the addiction talkin, just the way the tobacco business advertisers want it. cigarrettes are big business an example of corporate greed and capitalism screwing the masses who are hooked and cannot change it or only think they can't.
this ain't a personal attack 'gainst smokers (i used to be one) anymore than sayin to someone they should wear a coat in winter is an attack against that person's character; it is just common sense; listenin to it; or else die.
your "choice."
second, the defiant "cool" attitude whereby you think 'it's nobody's business but my own; besides it ain't gonna give ME cancer; besides, its worth cancer 'cause that tiny ciggie buzz is so damn gooood" is really stupid: it is the addiction talkin, just the way the tobacco business advertisers want it. cigarrettes are big business an example of corporate greed and capitalism screwing the masses who are hooked and cannot change it or only think they can't.
this ain't a personal attack 'gainst smokers (i used to be one) anymore than sayin to someone they should wear a coat in winter is an attack against that person's character; it is just common sense; listenin to it; or else die.
your "choice."
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you don't get it, bruthaaddicted smokers just don't get it: people have a right to "hassle" you if you are smoking in their vicinity because you are putting their health at risk.
if you are going into someone else's space and polluting it, then you are right.
but if somebody is coming into your space, they need to accept the conventions. If you smoke, it's in your space. They need to take it outside to breathe.
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someone is swingin a knife dangerously near your face, if somebody blowin smoke they should expect a response.
There is a question of legality here. Of logic?you don't get it, brutha
We still have the right to smoke, but I don't think we ever had the right to
swingin a knife dangerously near your face
but I think blowing smoke directly into someone's face is a hostile act where ever it happens
but I don't think that is what you meant about smoking in your own castle.
I just wish you would cut back on it, that is a heavy habit
lrod, of course if no one else's around then theres no harm to others. same thing with swinging knifes. a man's castle is his home or whatever that chivalric jazz is.
so is it okay for people who are into 'cutting' to slice their arms with razors for fun cause it makes them feel alive through pain? this is rather pathological to most people. smoking is just a cleaner, more proper, version of this, methinks.
but, the real question is like about bars and places like that, where the bartenders gotta breathe in a thousand persons' secondhand smoke. or kids with smokin parents.
can we really trust in the legal solutions, stilltrucking?
some places got bad laws, some got good laws.
so is it okay for people who are into 'cutting' to slice their arms with razors for fun cause it makes them feel alive through pain? this is rather pathological to most people. smoking is just a cleaner, more proper, version of this, methinks.
but, the real question is like about bars and places like that, where the bartenders gotta breathe in a thousand persons' secondhand smoke. or kids with smokin parents.
can we really trust in the legal solutions, stilltrucking?
some places got bad laws, some got good laws.
Oh Jesus when am I gonna shut up.
Well, first, let me say that I have gotten to know you better through good living, and I mean it. Last time, tho, I was in an interior situation where folks were smoking was at my stepson's and future step-dauighter-in-law's apartment, December, 2003, in Milwaukee, and they were puffing away. My wife and I both were gagging, politely, mind you.
I grew up inhaling second hand smoke.
I smoked in bits in high school and in college, but when I got my orders for Vietnam, going as I was as a cargo pilot, I started smoking. It made for great comraderie at the officers' club.
But when I got to Vietnam, I smoked pot, opium, and heroin for about three months, then I chucked it all, everything, including cigarrettes, became an aircraft commander, flight instructor, and came home clearly depressed.
I smoked for another 20 years.
But I quit.
I have seen a number of guys especially guys with throat cancer.
{Jimboloco enfermero macho)
macho nurse
It sucks, badly.
The last one had a little lump start growing out the side of his neck and, putting off everyone, he was gonna do his thing, and it turned into a nasty cancerous uulcer that went intop his throat as well as on the outside. He got a gastric tube, wound up in a nursing home, because his condition was so revolting that nobody in his family wanted to be around him for lenmgthy periods of time.
Oh yeah, we weaned him off nicotine with patches.
and dosed him with morphine.
Then there was the guy with the trach who kept calling out in delerium, "where's the captain?"
I understand about your private space, but you need to understand about what you are doing.
If you could space them out, cut back im,mediately to ten cigarrettes a day, for two weeks, then down to five.
Get detached from them.
What I did was to skip that first cigarrette. And wait as long as I could throughout the morning and around 10:30 or noon, have the first one, and oh how good.!
It was a struggle.
But the benefits are that L Rod will live longer and not get emphezema (I left out a "why" in there somewhere) and Dori will get her dancing shoes on.
Now there is always the possibility of decorum, an occasional smoke, but if you are like most other ex-smokers, when the day truly comes, your distaste for the sticks will far outweigh your compulsion to inhale the stuff, and then it will be relegate to the shelf, where I am going right now to get my early morning toke.
My wife's parents were both smokers and drinkers and both died in their early 60's.
I am a survivor on a mission, a lost blues brother.
Lookin for a mother
fucker
trucker
cigarrette
shucker.
Like Cecil and SoZen
in the high desert,
they quit, in the nicotine withdrawals shit fits right now, falling down
and getting back up again.
amen.
Self flagellation can't be so pleasureable
S&M
What it iz.
Well, first, let me say that I have gotten to know you better through good living, and I mean it. Last time, tho, I was in an interior situation where folks were smoking was at my stepson's and future step-dauighter-in-law's apartment, December, 2003, in Milwaukee, and they were puffing away. My wife and I both were gagging, politely, mind you.
I grew up inhaling second hand smoke.
I smoked in bits in high school and in college, but when I got my orders for Vietnam, going as I was as a cargo pilot, I started smoking. It made for great comraderie at the officers' club.
But when I got to Vietnam, I smoked pot, opium, and heroin for about three months, then I chucked it all, everything, including cigarrettes, became an aircraft commander, flight instructor, and came home clearly depressed.
I smoked for another 20 years.
But I quit.
I have seen a number of guys especially guys with throat cancer.
{Jimboloco enfermero macho)
macho nurse
It sucks, badly.
The last one had a little lump start growing out the side of his neck and, putting off everyone, he was gonna do his thing, and it turned into a nasty cancerous uulcer that went intop his throat as well as on the outside. He got a gastric tube, wound up in a nursing home, because his condition was so revolting that nobody in his family wanted to be around him for lenmgthy periods of time.
Oh yeah, we weaned him off nicotine with patches.
and dosed him with morphine.
Then there was the guy with the trach who kept calling out in delerium, "where's the captain?"
I understand about your private space, but you need to understand about what you are doing.
If you could space them out, cut back im,mediately to ten cigarrettes a day, for two weeks, then down to five.
Get detached from them.
What I did was to skip that first cigarrette. And wait as long as I could throughout the morning and around 10:30 or noon, have the first one, and oh how good.!
It was a struggle.
But the benefits are that L Rod will live longer and not get emphezema (I left out a "why" in there somewhere) and Dori will get her dancing shoes on.
Now there is always the possibility of decorum, an occasional smoke, but if you are like most other ex-smokers, when the day truly comes, your distaste for the sticks will far outweigh your compulsion to inhale the stuff, and then it will be relegate to the shelf, where I am going right now to get my early morning toke.
My wife's parents were both smokers and drinkers and both died in their early 60's.
I am a survivor on a mission, a lost blues brother.
Lookin for a mother
fucker
trucker
cigarrette
shucker.
Like Cecil and SoZen
in the high desert,
they quit, in the nicotine withdrawals shit fits right now, falling down
and getting back up again.
amen.
Self flagellation can't be so pleasureable
S&M
What it iz.
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yeah, I agree too, and reading this thread is good positive reinforcement for those of us in the early stages of quitting--doreen peri wrote:Well said. e-dog. Thank you. Agreed.
Beginning my 3rd week now--feels good. Sure glad Studio8 serves public health issues like having a "quitting smoking" thread.
Studio 8 should get a government cash grant for helping people like me quit the nasty habit.
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Any of you guys seen this movie on the subject that is being discuss????
http://www.coffeeandcigarettesmovie.com/
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Yeah did Jesus say "Smoke 'em if ye got them"!!!! Yeah it was good!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmeeeeennnnnthnol!!!!
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