Bandit Notions

[SadLuckDame]

I just mean that there are kisses in small places.
I wasn't meaning to be mean.
I'm sorry, mingo.

[stilltrucking]

To tired to find it right now I am thinking it was Walter Kaufmann but not sure, talking about the book of John. It was the critical book for him. Sorry I can't tell you more but I will check it out.


I am not fucking anymore, I been too busy dying the past thirty two years. I am thinking about Constantine's too many Rats in The Box poem, reminds me of the Palestinians and the Israeli orthodox Jews they are trying out fuck each other. Too Out breed each other.
Demographics is a bitch with an ice pick.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/05/ ... t-project/
One of these days I am going to have to finish Faith of a Heretic.

Liked this song I heard the other day.

[stilltrucking]

Too Out breed each other.

Mtmynd once told me he never goes back to read anything he has posted, but I think I might have read him wrong.

I go back on my posts from the night before with trepidation.

I can't quite remember what it was about the book of John that I read. Something like "this is where John differs from the other gospels", no that does not sound right, more like "the book of John says this about that and it is significant because..."

theologically I am a worthless shit this morning

I watched her slip her cell phone into the back pocket of her jeans and I was envious —I wished I was her cell phone.

so much for sick Jews and healthy gentiles

My uncle Chaim grilling his mother about her mother, and her mother's mother, and her mother's mother's mother, and so on...
he had to prove he was a Jew to get a gig as cantor, and that was just a conservative congregation, I don't know what it would have took for an orthodox shul.

It is the women who imprinted this identity on me. Strange how matrilineal such a patriarchal religion. From what little I know of Navajo kinship it is way more complex than the Jews.

Strange how Jewish atheists cling to their identity as Jews. Crazy Mike was crazy brave that way.

fuck or die is right
eros and thanatos
war and peace
and the road to hell

[the mingo]

I usually don't go back to read them either - if they have to be written and it falls to me to write it and get it down - once that is finished I'm done with it because the thing that caused the whole mess is gone once it gets expressed - it's at peace at last & nothing more is left to do -
Thank God over it too because I'd hate to think I'd have to do this forever

[SadLuckDame]

To be old with you,
sounds like when I had all I had to do
when going up to get you.

There's nothing wrong with a bit of attitude.
Lib lib, lots of me and war with you
makes us both eat an extra helping before bedtime.

[the mingo]

That reminds me - I think I'm hungry - triskets wrapped in swiss cheese? - cereal? oatmeal?
I could really go for a philly steak sandwich ... but I just got home and nobody, not even my stomach, can make me go back out there tonight so triskets wrapped in swiss cheese it is !

[stilltrucking]

RE: The Gospel of St John
I was trying to remember what it was I read and where I read it
Alan Watts:

...among theologians it used to be fashionable to regard the gospel of john as late, in other words at the turn of the century the higher critics of the new testament assigned the gospel of st john to about 125 AD {because} ...they assumed the simple teachings of Jesus could not possibly included any such complicated mystical theology
...
john recorded the inner teaching of teaching of Jesus and the other gospels gave the more exoteric teachings that he gave to the people at large.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s42V8BGBvTk

see also

THE WORLD'S MOST DANGEROUS BOOK

If the Gospel of Saint John , in particular, is to be believed, Jesus emphatically identified himself with the Godhead, considering such phrases as "I and the Father are one," or "He who has seen me has seen the Father," or "Before Abraham was, I am," or "I am the way, the truth and the life." But this was not an exclusive claim for himself as the man Jesus, for at John 10:31, just after he has said "I and the Father are one," the crowd picks up rocks to stone him to death.

He protests:

"Many good works have I shown you from my Father; for which of those works do you stone me?" The Jews answered him, saying, "We do not stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because you, being a man, make yourself God."
And here it comes:

Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, I said, you are gods [quoting Psalms 82]? If He [i.e., God] called those to whom He gave His word gods and you can’t contradict the Scriptures how can you say of Him whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme!’ because I said, ‘I am a son of God" [The original Greek says "a son," not "the son."]

http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/a ... bible.html

[the mingo]

Just spent ten minutes trying to get logged on here ... if you had no other piece of the New Testament with you but the Gospel of John and you tucked it under your arm you could walk straight into Hell itself and all the demons would have to give way before you and if you believed the Holy Spirit as the author of it you could march straight up to Satan on his blasphemous throne - he would sneer at you of course, but he would be afraid and you would see it in his eyes. He would be afraid because he would be looking at the heel that crushes him & all his murderous works along with him and in his nostrils would be the stink of the end of his kingdom - foretold before the beginning of time.

Amen

[the mingo]

There are things with us, indeed common to us, that come out of the distant past, that have not changed, not been lost, not evolved. They come to us and we carry them in such a way that even our most distant ancestor would recognize them & their place in our lives because they were the same for him or her thousands of years or even millennia ago as they are for us. An example of what I speak of in this context are momento's of those who have passed before. Not a worship of but a remembrance of the dead - a living connection with them - in our times this momento usually takes the form of a photograph of the deceased. A grandfather or grandmother, great grandfather, great grandmother etc. This photograph is a sacred space or landscape such as our ancestors would have understood the same way they understood burying a relative under the hearth of a home or bones of an ancestor placed in the foundation of their house.

Regardless of pride, our lives are not unique in the context of the human experience - what is human in us, what makes us human, was the same for all those that came before us as it is for us. Exactly the same.

Understanding the past in this way, in the form of it's relation to any of us, gives a richer aspect to our present and a clear realization of the only future any of us will have.

[tarbaby]

if you believed the Holy Spirit as the author of it

in quaker lingo I believe it divinely inspired

is that an Amen?

I am still chewing on your second reply, the thought that it has not evolved since the Hebrew writers I got to think about that.

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There are things with us, indeed common to us, that come out of the distant past, that have not changed, not been lost, not evolved. They come to us and we carry them in such a way that even our most distant ancestor would recognize them & their place in our lives because they were the same for him or her thousands of years or even millennia ago as they are for us.

I am still chewing on your second reply, the thought that it has not evolved since the Hebrew writers I got to think about that.

Regardless of pride, our lives are not unique in the context of the human experience - what is human in us, what makes us human, was the same for all those that came before us as it is for us. Exactly the same.

Understanding the past in this way, in the form of it's relation to any of us, gives a richer aspect to our present and a clear realization of the only future any of us will have.

ten four on that
"Always remember that you are absolutely unique. Just like everyone else."

[stilltrucking]

I got a MP3 of Gospel Of John KJV, I been listening to it a couple times in the last 24 hours. I listened to it all night in my sleep.
the one who was sent before, that is the interesting bit for me so far.

other notions

Shut up in here like like a shut in without a home
Inside a king panzer, I feel safe

plotting my escape
in the meantime I continue my education, an introductory course in life
out there somewhere is grass and trees sky and wind sunshine and stars, i prepare for an expedition into the real world


Interesting video for me not sure where he is going with it, but it is interesting. funny at times, deadly serious at others, a nice job I thought.


Johnny Cash - God Is Gonna Cut You Down (Music Video)

if you got time to watch it (about three minutes) I would like to know what you think?

I would appreciate it.
you can skip the add in about four seconds, sorry about that.

[the mingo]

jack I will check this out as soon as a have a piece of time where I'm not coming from or going to ... thx

[the mingo]

Thx Jack - I think that is the first time I have heard that one and it was worth it. One thing about Johnny, if you came to listen to him at least ya knew the only bull you would hear was what you brought in with you ... since you asked, I miss him, that's what I think.

[stilltrucking]

thank you
I had heard the song before, I thought the video was fresh.

My grandniece is two years old, she cried today for her own reasons. She knows nothing about war in the Congo, the deaths at Sandy Hook.
She has her own sorrows.

the children we leave behind
and the children that leave before us
from G d's point of view it all makes sense

If I could hold my breath and make the the guns fall silent
I would.

[the mingo]

that would rate as a miracle, Jack, new testament caliber -