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McKenna !

Post by mnaz » October 5th, 2014, 11:21 pm

(Just summarizing/paraphrasing here-- no original stuff-- see the Tao Lin link on Litkicks)

He was fascinated by history.
To him it was a finite process,
ten to twenty-five thousand years,
only to end in a phase shift,
like caterpillar to butterfly.

Understanding is dizzying,
a complexity of history, art,
languages, magic, he liked
the complex, well-wrought
patterns turned in on themselves.

The shamans and archaic ecstasy.
Are psychedelics a decadent shortcut?
Or were fasting, flagellation, mutilation
and religion corruptions of the original
sacred passage?

The I Ching breaks time into elements,
like chemical elements compose matter.
And at the heart of it all, resonance,
the zinging subatomics,
the hum, the om.

Heraclitus, the crying philosopher,
said everything flows, pante rhea,
and Taoist sages still ride
as children at play
with colors.

And there's more:
When Plato remarked that “Time is the moving image of Eternity,” he made a statement every voyage into the DMT space reinforces. Like the shift of epoch called the apocalypse and anticipated by religious hysterics, DMT seems to illuminate the regions beyond death. And what is the dimension beyond life as illuminated by DMT? If we can trust our own perceptions, then it is a place in which thrives an ecology of souls whose stuff of being is more syntactical than material. It seems to be a nearby realm inhabited by eternal elfin entelechies made entirely of information and joyous self-expression.

5. Wei Boyang (2nd century AD)
McKenna often referenced Wei Boyang, “a semimythical figure from the Kuaji area of modern Zhejiang believed to have been active in the middle of the second century,” according to Taoism and the Arts of China (2000) by Stephen Little, on the topic of worry. In “Stop Worrying or Being Anxious, It’s Pointless,” McKenna said:


You know, Wei Boyang, a great Chinese Taoist who wrote many, many commentaries on the I Ching—he was asked, at the end of his life, what was his conclusion of a life of studying the I Ching, and he said “worry is preposterous.” That was it.

6. A True And Faithful Rendition (1658) by John Dee
In “Hermeticism and Alchemy” (1991), McKenna described John Dee (1517-1608/1609) as “the greatest magician of his age and the greatest scientist of his age” and called A True And Faithful Rendition, whose full, page-long title can be read here, “One of the most astonishing books in all of English literature.” McKenna noted: “And until the last ten years, the 1658 edition was the only edition ever published.” Dee’s book, McKenna wrote in The Archaic Revival, is comprised of diary entries spanning ten years and recording "hundreds of spirit conversations, including the delivery to Dee and Kelley of an angelic language called Enochian, composed of non-English letters, but which computer analysis has recently shown to have curious grammatical relationship to English."

7. Alfred North Whitehead (1861-1947)
Whitehead was an English mathematician and philosopher. He co-wrote the three-volume Principia Mathematica (1910, 1912, 1913) with Bertrand Russell, who had been his student at Trinity College, Cambridge. “I base a lot of what I think and feel on Whitehead,” said McKenna in “Touched by the Tremendum” (1990). In "The Evolutionary Importance of Technology" (1989), McKenna discussed Whitehead and feelings:


Whitehead, who I take as my mentor, created a mathematically formal metaphysic in which the primary datum of experience is feelings. I mean, that's a direct quote from Whitehead. The only thing you can trust at this point--and some of you have heard me say this before--is the felt presence of immediate experience, otherwise known as feelings, and mathematics. And mathematics is something that most of you have been denied in order to keep you marks. So all you have are feelings. And so it's very important to empower this dimension, which Husserl or Merle Ponte or somebody called the felt presence of immediate experience. Everything proceeds from that. Even thought is subsequent to feeling.

8. A Rebours (1884) by Joris-Karl Huysmans
In The Archaic Revival, McKenna called Against the Grain, as it’s titled in English, “an amazing novel about a man who is so sensitized to perception that he can’t leave his apartment.” McKenna elaborated:


He has his walls covered in felt and keeps the lights very low. He collects Redon when nobody had ever heard of Redon. He buys turtles and has jewels affixed to their backs. Then he sits in a half-lit room and smokes hashish and watches the turtles crawl around on his Persian rugs. Let’s all go home and do this.
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Re: McKenna !

Post by judih » October 6th, 2014, 12:11 am

it's good to revisit McKenna. His unique voice finds its way between the cracks of the curious mind and widens them.

thanks for walking us through some of the thought threads

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Re: McKenna !

Post by revolutionR » October 6th, 2014, 12:26 am

I followed Terence since the eighties, I was impressed with his train of thought,
he liked to link philosophers and writers, including James Joyce, Borges,
and Alfred North Whitehead. He was a fearless advocate of the psychedelic
experience.He was an inspiration to me.The world was a somewhat different
place when he was tripping in it, he died about a year and a half before 9/11.
The night before he died I had a dream about him. Terence sort of picked up
where Tim Leary left off.Nobody has filled that vacuum since.Graham Hancock
is a dedicated advocate of psychedelic experience.

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Re: McKenna !

Post by mnaz » October 6th, 2014, 12:29 am

Yes, a unique voice, and mind. His take on things generally fascinates me.

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Re: McKenna !

Post by revolutionR » October 6th, 2014, 1:04 am

Mckenna's take on Huysmans certainly gives a whole new added perspective.And, a
keen insight into his sense of psychedelic humor.

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Post by mnaz » October 6th, 2014, 1:29 am

Yes. One of the things I like about his perspective is the mortality of history itself-- it is just another living, complex organism to pass through the cycle and transform into a different sort of energy. That is a freeing perspective to me-- history as a suspect taskmaster, its days numbered and its transformation inevitable. Or something like that.

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Re: McKenna !

Post by revolutionR » October 6th, 2014, 11:03 am

When I look back and think about where I was when I first heard Terence on free radio, and where I was when he died, and where I am today. Just because somebody takes a psychedelic, and delves into shamanic things, doesn't mean they really grok what Terence was on about. What I mean, is that Terence seemed ahead of his time when I first heard him.Where was I then? I listened to his voice and his talks, and I heard very well articulated thoughts about history and psychedelics.As a teenager in the late sixties I took a lot of LSD, so psychedelics meant a lot to me.After all that tripping as a teenager, I started reading a lot to try to educate my mind. I took up poetry, and the rest followed. Terence sounded like a philosopher/poet that spoke through the psychedelic experience, which revolved around notions about history and its end point, or waves of time. In order for me to have a perspective about all this, I needed to see the relative meaning of history as we know or don't know it. Either you listen to what the sands of time have to tell you, or you stick your head in the sand and try to avoid it. Either way there is no guarantee that you will hear what the sands of time has to say, or that sticking your head in the sand will blot it out, so you can just fit in and not rock the drunken boat of a million years. However, the person that at least tried to listen, and by this I mean taking psychedelics, and exploring what the philosophers and poets attempt to give voice to, at least there is a chance, that you will have your own personal apocalypse, and will find your own voice in the rubble heap of history, and dust it off.

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Re: McKenna !

Post by mtmynd » October 6th, 2014, 5:35 pm

Thx, nazz, for posting this. Wisdom supports it all.
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Post by mnaz » October 7th, 2014, 2:57 am

He may be right, and he may be wrong, but this sort of wider-angle thinking is sorely lacking in in our perspective in general ...
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Post by mtmynd » October 7th, 2014, 10:01 am

mnaz wrote:He may be right, and he may be wrong, but this sort of wider-angle thinking is sorely lacking in general ...
It takes effort to see things in CinemaScope, 3D, HD thinking... time which few care to give. I consider myself fortunate to afford time knowing the constant rush so many are on to simply keep up with the crowd.

I missed reading McKenna but did indulge in others who opened my eyes and mind. So much was interwoven in those days when hallucinogenics were brought into "the scene" ...
turn on, tune in, drop out

A term coined by Timothy Leary to describe the psychedelic experience. Leary explains it in his book Flashbacks as such

“Turn on’ meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. ‘Tune in’ meant interact harmoniously with the world around you – externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. Drop out suggested an elective, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. ‘Drop Out’ meant self-reliance, a discovery of one’s singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean ‘Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity.”

"Like every great religion of the past we seek to find the divinity within and to express this revelation in a life of glorification and the worship of God. These ancient goals we define in the metaphor of the present — turn on, tune in, drop out." - Timothy Leary
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Re: McKenna !

Post by Arcadia » October 7th, 2014, 9:03 pm

— turn on, tune in, drop out." I didn´t knew about the complete Leary´s frase, it sounds healthy...!

I bought "La nueva conciencia psicodélica" (The Archaic revival in English) while searching for some random reading for the summer during the early nineties. I had not ate hongos (with the exception of portobellos, champignones & hongos de pino) and I had no idea about internet & hiperspace, but I could resonate somehow with the reading at the point to smile and wonder a lot.

Some years ago, gracias to Cenacle´s radio links I found out that I could listen to him there and via YouTube.

I kept reading that Mc Kenna´s book from time to time, opening it in randomly. This is what the book want to say today :lol: :wink: :

(page 153)

"Mi aproximación al hongo es hasídica. Yo le expreso mi entusiasmo , él me expresa el suyo. Discutimos sobre lo que se va a revelar y lo que no. Yo le digo: "Bien, mira, yo soy el propagador, no puedes ocultarme nada" y el hongo me dice: "Pero si te muestro el plato volador por cinco minutos, adivinarás como funciona" y yo le digo: "Bueno, adelante".
Tiene muchas manifestaciones. A veces es como Dorothy de Oz; otras veces es como un prestamista muy talmúdico. En cierta ocasión le pregunté: ¿Qué haces en la Tierra?. Me respondió: "Escucha, si eres un hongo, vives barato; además, te aseguro, este era un barrio muy agradable hasta que los monos perdieron el control".
"Monos fuera de control": esa es la visión que la voz del hongo tiene de la historia.

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