We All Believe in God

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We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 7th, 2015, 4:01 pm

We are made in God's image.
My God, your God, the Godspeed of rocket
shots to earthrise on a gray-cratered moon.
We all believe, but can't agree where.

We believe in God when war hits,
with each pulse of the divine within;
when that stubborn, foolish dawn breaks;
when sand lilies sprout after desert rain.

We all believe in God,
like Galileo fought the Church.
No! We were not the center of cosmos,
but the center of careening axes it seems.
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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by WIREMAN » March 7th, 2015, 6:50 pm

everybody needs something to believe in, without it they'd be lost..... 8)
me I feel like I'm becoming some kinda Kung fu t.v. Priest.....

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 7th, 2015, 7:13 pm

Maybe I believe in the Spaghetti Monster, or when I went to Church, the God of Smite. Or maybe it's the smile of a dog, as Edie Brickell astutely noted should be a basis of religion, and I agree.
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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by whoaisme » March 7th, 2015, 7:14 pm

whoa man, a lot of goodies here but

"We thought we were the center of it all"

really struck a nerve.

keep writing hard! :idea:
"From the sudden invasion of a mind not my own in the world. This I will record. For whom? For m y s e l f, beyond denial and beyond indifference." - Philip Lamantia

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 7th, 2015, 10:56 pm

Yeah, Galileo fucked with religious authority on that one.
He probably believed in God too.

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by 68degrees » March 8th, 2015, 1:55 pm

"...when war hits... / ...that stubborn dawn..."

love a word like "dawn" and all its connotations here.

Not preachy. Accessible. I like that.

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by saw » March 8th, 2015, 7:13 pm

it seems that as soon as man turns spirituality into an elite club, all goodness is sucked from the marrow...when we need to obey all the laws, memorize all the proof, it all turns sour for me...I know I'm a speck of dust, and I'm OK with that....I like to borrow a piece of this, and a piece of that, meditate on love, and empathy
If you do not change your direction
you may end up where you are heading

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 14th, 2015, 5:22 pm

What's in a label anyway?

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 14th, 2015, 5:42 pm

I just see "God" as the cosmic energy (ohh, like wowww, mann...)... We all believe in that. No, we all ARE that.

Now, religion's another story entirely ... Hmm.

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 14th, 2015, 6:09 pm

Fucked yes, and/but/or, malleable, many-faceted. Check the dictionary for multiple meanings of even "common" words. It's amazing, after so many centuries.

"God" not only means the Big Kahuna of Everything, but also, as a practical matter here down on Planet Humandom, things like "the highest held sacred." So if I were to take liberties and make (unforgivable) extrapolations on this singular, capitalized word of language, then things might open up a bit, or set the perspective differently. I mean, even some atheists believe in the God of No God, and the list goes on from there ...
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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by Doreen Peri » March 14th, 2015, 6:17 pm

I'm an lysdexic insomniac. I stay up all night wondering if there is a dog which feels like an eternity because my neighbor's dog won't shut the hell up. Arf arf arf. Forever. Of course, the word ARF is also an anagram of FAR. And FAR, (though a very short word), is also an extremely long word because it's a comparison measurement compared to NEAR, nearly as far as I can tell. Sorry to interrupt. This was just about a practical matter. Please disregard it.

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 14th, 2015, 6:34 pm

Uhh, isn't that about what I said? Religion may have coined(?) "God," but that was mostly for political purposes. The two really have little or nothing to do with each other. And of course, transcendence stretches between.

We are God. Creation is God. God is destroying God, though it doesn't necessarily have to be like that. I'm just taking unforgivable liberties with language here, that's all. What must develop under the wreckage at some point are new perceptions about the way forward, about all the ingrained, ever more destructive relics of religion.

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 14th, 2015, 6:50 pm

Doreen Peri wrote:my neighbor's dog won't shut the hell up. Arf arf arf . . .
Same here. Like that bumper sticker-- "Dog is my co-pilot."

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by 68degrees » March 14th, 2015, 7:05 pm

God is one of those words that creeps into the best efforts to prevent it or pooh/pooh it. I admire your stamina to keep throwing it out there, Dune.

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Re: We All Believe in God

Post by dune » March 14th, 2015, 7:43 pm

Thanks. Believe it or not, I wrote this while drunk on whiskey, wading through yet another berating tirade by some classical poetry Nazi. It went on for post after post-- I mean, Doog Dog!, I might be dyslexic, but seriously, how long can this go on? And on, and on, about how many syllables here and how many there, and the whole time almost NOTHING begins to scratch the surface. And for some reason, can't remember why, the discussion veered to Church and religion and other pseudo-academic tangents, and it was proposed that Galileo believed in God even while fighting the Church, and I said to myself, "yeah, that seems about right."

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