auschwitz

[the mingo]

screams that keep screaming
deep
deeper

[saw]

sad chapter for sure...some sounds are forever in the collective consciousness....

you've said a lot with so little

[the mingo]

Thx, saw - posted this elsewhere on some different sites - caused controversy - makes one think that stupidity reigns supreme - I'll just drink my coffee & let the world spin - I have to move some firewood this morning - got two face cords being delivered & need to make space knowing that before they are gone they will be covered in at least two/three feet of snow and that bears keeping in mind - want to be situated before that happens - here on the uplands of Tug Hill plateau snow never cracks a joke -

[saw]

yeah ming, have friends in Vermont...they take their snow seriously....not much to worry about here in the mid-atlantic these days....

[Tjflowers80]

Even when there are no screams the deeper you still hear them. I'm on the fence about this one but it's still inspiring. Wishing I had the will to write better.

[the mingo]

saw, yeah, over Vermont way they get it steady all season - here where i'm at the main culprit is what they call "lake effect" snow - it gets intense - the air picks up moisture coming across Lake Ontario - wait, just google "Tug Hill Plateau" and "lake effect snow" if your curiosity gets up, you'll see. I moved into this area toward the end of last winter totally unprepared - got my legs under now - i think -

[the mingo]

Tj - from what i've read of yours seems to me you're doing fine

[WIREMAN]

Sneeze!.....this is poignant poetry...with space for the mind to wander.....let me guess where those dissenters live

[saw]

yeah ming, i knew about lake effect snow , but was unfamiliar with Tug Hill Plateau...sounds like a challenging place to winter over...I did google, you are really up there in lake country...
which river are you on ?.....I've done some trails in the Catskills further south, Hudson Valley...
my youngest son went 2 years to Bard College on the Hudson River....gorgeous campus in the woods near Red Hook....some prognosticators are calling for more snow this winter....time will tell

[the mingo]

Wireman, yeah you know it plus a couple of others i've recently registered on - thing that surprised me the most is that many of the comments reflect so little knowledge of the facts or
they have joined the controversy over if it happened at all - anyways, i was not prepared for what the posting of this poem revealed to me - it stops my mind that with the wealth of knowledge available today at anyone's fingertips & the push of a key ... knowledge is a poor substitute for truth and it's most dangerous when allowed to stand for truth or confused with it

[the mingo]

saw - I'm on the Little Salmon River - if you google map it put in Colosse, ny, used to be a village by that name there years ago but only a bar there today - anyways, from the crossroads go east on 69 - you will come to the river quick enough, my place is the first one on the south side of the road after you cross the river - you will see my kayak belly up on the bank between the river & my place if you click the satellite feature - if you zoom out you will see all those narrow backroads that surround me here - they provide me with some of the best biking i've ever done - most of the 'ku & shortform poetry i post here at s8 come from bike rides down those backroads -

I'm not that familiar with the Hudson River country by direct experience - I have passed thru parts of it - I have read of al the history that has passed up & down that river, both white & native - it is beautiful over there -