Ayn Rand was a wise guy.

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Ayn Rand was a wise guy.

Post by mnaz » December 17th, 2017, 12:32 am

Yes of course, get what you can
while you can before it's gone, and
lock it up before the others suspect
anything, and if you'd just work hard
enough you could have great riches,
said the Gospel of Ayn, Chapter One,
which was popular for awhile.

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Post by still.trucking » December 17th, 2017, 1:45 am

Oh yes I remember him.
She was his hero.
The what me worry kid
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Re: Ayn Rand was a wise guy.

Post by mnaz » December 17th, 2017, 2:45 am

The Communists were (the latest "obstacles" to be) proven wrong and eradicated, so therefore American Capitalists were and are completely justified to keep on doing pretty much anything they want to do, and don't get in the way, right? I mean, don't get me wrong-- totalitarian socialism IS wrong, no doubt, but man ...

Laissez faire greed . . . biggest Mafia of them all.

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Post by sasha » December 17th, 2017, 5:13 pm

With wealth comes power, and with power comes either a) an altruistic desire to use that power to come to the aid of those less powerful; or b) a simultaneously diminished sense of responsibility and an exaggerated sense of entitlement.

Guess which? Hint: It's not a fair coin.
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Post by mnaz » December 17th, 2017, 7:00 pm

God the carnage. The so-called "Secretary of the Interior" (or maybe Blowfish himself) called the preservation of some of the most stunning terrain in the world (in Utah) a "land grab that should never have happened," and promptly opened up 80+ % of it for corporate ransacking. "Land grab"... Wow. Just wow...

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Post by Doreen Peri » December 23rd, 2017, 8:03 pm

Fuck her. Selfish bitch screwed up the whole idea of capitalism.

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Post by mtmynd » December 24th, 2017, 11:38 am

She was very influential for many but once "many of those many" found out what a "p'ayn in the arse" her theories were : selfish paeans for greed and irresponsibility for any social necessity for hu'manity.

Paul Ryan and Rand Paul are still (??) devotees of her warped views, with Rand named after her shows what a strong influence she was with her early writings. It's always the theories themselves that are remembered but never their conclusions... mankind's foibles that stall our progress.
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Re: Ayn Rand was a wise guy.

Post by saw » December 24th, 2017, 11:56 am

https://www.alternet.org/story/149721/a ... eeded_them


it's all bullshit....remember when the republicans and libertarians were deficit hawks of the highest order....railing against any kind of social safety nets......and now this new tax bill that will add 1.5 trillion dollars to the national debt that will fall squarely on the backs of our children and grandchildren

politics is nothing more as a whole, of lying to get what you want or what someone paying you, wants....and few are true to their word, down the line

the two other women , the so called founders of libertarian ism at least held out, while Ayn Rand caved in....and yet she remains the darling of these nut jobs.....she remains the poster woman for their " beliefs"...smoke and mirrors....and an important reminder that it's all show business

nothing more.....those that seek to make the weakest suffer more are charlatans....just like Ayn Rand
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Re: Ayn Rand was a wise guy.

Post by mnaz » December 31st, 2017, 5:10 pm

I keep wondering about those who just aren't genetically wired to be Good At Capitalism. As things sort out and the Big Capital Machine keeps sinking its wells and fangs ever deeper into various salt veins of earth I can't help but wonder, even if everything seems on the right track.

And from one side of the political spectrum at least, the answer(s) are pretty simple, a base "survival" ethic (when not obsessed with greed and/or sellout/selloff), or maybe I just exaggerate in my mind some of the things I've heard over the years, like the 2012 Prez campaign when I heard Dennis Miller snarling "hey, we're on the Serengheti plains here, gotta thin the herd," or something like that..

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