freedom ain't so bad

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freedom ain't so bad

Post by mnaz » March 6th, 2018, 3:10 am

freedom ain't so bad.
it just has a few deserts
to cross before it gets there.
No time without our war
nor war without our time,
like magic dust on horizons.
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Post by still.trucking » March 6th, 2018, 10:40 am

The State (1918). By Randolph Bourne
War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society those irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the Government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense. The machinery of government sets and enforces the drastic ...
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Post by mnaz » March 6th, 2018, 1:20 pm

The last hundred years... (Don't mind me. Mind wandering off again.)

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Post by silent woman » March 6th, 2018, 10:50 pm

Not my mind that wanders so much as my uterus
Hippocrates is generally credited with first suggesting that hysteria was the result of a wandering uterus: the uterus, he thought, could detach itself and wander about the body, causing dysfunction by adhering to other organs.
http://www.thewanderinguterusproject.com/Home/Home.html
John Dos Pasos USA ought to be required reading for north american children

Does hysteria very very very well


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Post by stilltrucking » March 7th, 2018, 5:01 pm

mnaz wrote:
The last hundred years...

a hundred years ago was the start of how we got to now
Freud turned the page on consciousness
the great war saw the beginning of the public relations industry
the manipulation of the unconscious

they say we think of the reasons after we have made the decisions

freedom is just another word
but we still got plenty left to lose
me I am just marking time
waiting for the baseball season to start
I see great things in baseball. It's our game--the American game. It will take people out-of-doors, fill them with oxygen, give them a large physical stoicism. Tend to relieve us from being a nervous, dyspeptic set. Repair these losses, and be a blessing to us.
---Walt Whitman

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Post by mnaz » March 8th, 2018, 6:08 am

just another word to lose too much time to, I guess..
something like that. maybe. F if I know.

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Post by saw » March 8th, 2018, 4:33 pm

when Ghandi was asked...by a jounalist

What do you think of western civilization ?

Ghandi replied, I think it would be a good idea
If you do not change your direction
you may end up where you are heading

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Post by one of those jerks » March 8th, 2018, 10:33 pm

Yes I have heard he said that, and I have heard he did not
I feel the same about Indian Civilization, they have such quaint customs, Sati, that's a good one.

Oh lordy ignorance is ugly , especially our knowledge of our own history

The tricks the government learned from Freud,
BBC had an interesting series called The Power of Nightmares


don't even think about what I am trying to say

no fool like an old on
pardon my rant
the moving finger wrote it on the walls of a bus station in "Poughkeepsie new york


"those who remember the past are doomed to repeat it"


a lot of repeating going on, Woodrow Wilson got it so wrong, not just him, the whole government got it wrong, but the banks got it right
if we get it wrong again
be a long time get over these miracles of modern warfare
a hundred is just a number
don't mean nothing
in rock time
She is twice the man I am.

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Post by stilltrucking » March 8th, 2018, 11:07 pm

sorry mnaz and saw :oops:
I got so compulsive with my scribbling
I don't try to edit myself when I am trying to be spontaneous

the twentieth century the technology and psychology perfected the mass mind,,,,

this is my own my native land
I am still a sucker for the American experience


just a few words in defense of our country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0EAwSpTcM4

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Post by stilltrucking » March 9th, 2018, 12:05 am

We fight for the freedom to fight for the freedom to fight.


The idea that our foreign policy is linked to American rights and freedoms is only a marketing strategy.

Instead of reaching for an honest understanding of US foreign policy- we take the easy route by just making the blanket claim that we send “The Troops” to distant lands to protect or defend American rights and freedoms. Whatever the era, whatever the mission, whatever the result- defending American rights and freedoms has been the reason to deploy the US Armed Forces. This groupthink is our comfort zone.

http://web.mac.com/aleko/iWeb/Site%202/ ... 60050.html
John Quincy Adams about America:

“Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy ... she is the champion and vindicator only of her own.”

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Re: freedom ain't so bad

Post by saw » March 9th, 2018, 7:34 am

sure thing
the people are what make america great
and we don't need some fool claiming
it needs to be great again
when there has been diversity for a long time
far and wide.... and the real stuff of greatness
has never left
freedom isn't absolute
some get a better deal than others
but hell yeah nothing like american ingenuity
american rock and roll
having a piece of the apple pie
all good stuff
very thankful I wasn't born into a repressive regime
and it could have happened
if were grandparents weren't allowed to come here
I have vivid images of Ellis Island in my head
If you do not change your direction
you may end up where you are heading

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Re: freedom ain't so bad

Post by the mingo » March 9th, 2018, 9:15 am

John Quincy Adams - Salute!
Doll, you may have found a place of rest but I'm still on the trail.

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Re: freedom ain't so bad

Post by mnaz » March 10th, 2018, 1:59 am

Jack, rock on. I'm sure 'freedom' by now already has uncountable trademarks, buzz words and walls erected between various branches of our lexicon, but as you point out, most of it seems to have flared up in the last hundred years, and what is a hundred (or even ten thousand) years in rock time?

And saw. Yes.

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