war...agrhh

[K&D]

fuck! thats all i can think. the protest barely got any coverage, franklly i had become apathetic for a good portion of the last two months...there aren't any great leaders or speakers, theres no media coverage, nothing we seem to do makes much of a different...and i can't be a little fucking trouper about this, its depressing.

i mean here i am at college and everyone acts like were not even in a war, and this is a fucking liberal arts school, and no one knows what to do, everything seems pointless and its so easy to be apathetic...i'm not looking for responsese like hold in there and shit like that, guys look its effecting us too. how often do we talk about the war? hardly ever, its happening...were getting use to it, were giving up....and maybe thats justified because frankly it doesn't look like things are going to change because of the structure of our society...and because of people's beleifs...the war is going to have to come to our front door before people change there minds. theres no mommentum, i mean there are many who don't think we should leave...i don't understand things...i'm fucking pissed off. but i don't know what i'm suppose to do. go to a fucking protest that gets no coverage?

and i hate the people like my roomate who acts like there some liberal but then spends most of her time watching survivor and is full of shit.

[K&D]

and i fucking hate that there just reusing old slogans and sayings.

esp. the whole world is watching. the whole world isn't fucking watching, and the government learned its lesson from veitnam not to beat the shit out of kids, not to mention even if they hadn't the issue wouldn't come up because the majority of people at these protest are non threatening old ladies....god damnit, we need a good speaker, but maybe even that wouldn't do any good....no buddy gives a shit there too fat and happy.

here's the other difference my generation wasn't even brought up with the same ideals as the older, we were raised with television with postmodernism...we don't have a since of public good, its all about personal opinion now and makeing money and media...shit how are we suppose to care about anything, we've been told all our life that there isn't much to care about...its fucking hard to be idealistic, when you have no ideals. fuck this totally sucks.

nothings going to stop this war, short of things getting really really bad and people actually knowing about it. this slow shit isn't going to connect with people, and their is no media coverage.

[mtmynd]

Yeah, K&D, it's a friggin' shame. So called liberal, peace lovers hiding like swarmy little punks losing themselves in vid games and so-called reality tv shows... whazzup with that shit? the country is scared... scared of this admin... the Dems are scared shitless, the entertainment industry and all the big buck hot sellers don't say shit, nobody with a voice says anything... warm and protected in their shells. go figure. nobody really fucking cares... just give them their electronic toys and hide in their apts and houses until the next terrorist attack. it makes no sense to me, KiD....

[K&D]

good i was afraid i was going to get a bunch of like fatherly/motherly...keep trying things will get better, you know i want people to relate with me, that things right now aren't getting better...and that society kind of sucks, i mean esp. the youth, and i quess i'm not doing much myself, but at least i'm awair of whats going on....its just i feel like i have no power as one person, and i know all that shit about you know that there are many thinking the same thing as me, and i'll go to a protest but its about coverage its about the need for new ideas, the need for societal change...thats why i'm going into film making, film is the power right now but everyones just using it to distract people? is it because that sells or is it because no one gives a fuck?

[Doreen Peri]

I don't know what to say, K&D other than...

Bravo!!!

Well said.

Maybe I'll have more to say about it when I've had time to think about how to add to what you've said.

We used to get a TV channel we don't get any more. It televised the demonstrations, etc, and was promoted by ANSWER. I don't know why we don't get it any more.

My son is working with an activist group in Seattle. There IS a lot being done all over the country and the world, but you are so right... without the public seeing it, it's not doing much good, in my opinion.

[K&D]

well the next thing elders tell me is...."well you have to think small and do what you can to make a difference in you small way" but thats bullshit too....because in the world of globilization, thats not an easy thing to do either, and were talking about war....so basicly what i'm saying is no ones offering any valid suggestions.