Cindy Sheehan: My children and mi familia de Corazon

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Cindy Sheehan: My children and mi familia de Corazon

Post by whimsicaldeb » November 27th, 2005, 2:04 pm

Friday, November 25th, 2005
Having a Great Time, Wish You Were all Here or Throw the Bitch in the Ditch

...a message from Cindy Sheehan

Camp Casey Thanksgiving, Crawford, Texas

I was feeling very down when I was flying to Waco yesterday. I did a lot of crying and missing Casey on the way out from Sacramento. I am not at the place in my grieving yet where I can look at all of our good times and feel grateful for them. Remembering many, many happy Thanksgivings past only made me feel worse, not better.

So, I called my sister (one of the Crawford 12 jailbirds) when I was on a short layover in Dallas to ask her who was picking me up. She wouldn't give me a straight answer saying that "don't worry, someone will be there." So I told her not to worry about it, I would take a taxi to the Peace House or rent a car. I was DEFINITELY feeling sorry for my poor little self.

Well, after the very short flight from Dallas to Waco, and after a luggage misunderstanding on the tarmac, I walked into the terminal in Waco. Lo and behold, there were dozens of people there to welcome me and lots of press. Most of the people (including the press) were old Camp Casey friends and my spirits lifted and I felt strangely at home.

After a stop at the Peace House we headed back out to Camp Casey on the Camp Casey II location. Now I did feel at home. We stayed up for hours talking about politics, the war, old times, and the future. We laughed and cried and I thought: "I am so lucky to have two families. My children and mi familia de Corazon: (my family of the heart).

Both of my families are very close and loving and we laugh and have good times, but our good times are hampered by the fact that we are here for dead serious reasons: we want to hold a President and his lying administration accountable for leading us to disaster in Iraq and we want to stop an immoral occupation. Some of us are also there because we have been so intimately and tragically affected by the disaster and immorality. We periodically stop to reflect on these things.

When I am here in Crawford at Camp Casey, I almost feel sorry for George up there a couple of miles away from us in his protected Green Zone. He is protected from physical harm (which he need not fear from us) and he is protected from political harm. He doesn't have to face people who disagree vehemently with his policies and who oppose his continued killing with every fiber of our beings. He is protected from the real world of pain and need. He has never had to face his failures or own up to anything. Really, are any of us surprised that he has been such a miserable failure in every way?

The reason I feel sorry for him though, is that he is also sitting in his political Green Zone with apparently not many friends or confidants. Reports show that he only has four people who he can talk to. He is not even on friendly terms with his father, Karl or Dick. We at Camp Casey, on the other hand, are surrounded by laughter, love, hope and acceptance. One can't help smiling just being here.

I received an email today that had this subject line: "Throw the Bitch in the Ditch." The writer accused me of "throwing dirt" on Casey, himself and his son who all have served the country. I have NEVER said anything to disparage the honorable service of Casey or the others who have signed up to be in the military, only to be abused by the leadership of this country. This writer didn't even blink an eye at calling the mother of a war hero "bitch." I wonder how the email writer feels about his own leadership "throwing dirt" on the service of actual military men like: John Kerry; Jack Murtha; Max Cleland, and yes, even John McCain? I have never questioned people who try to stay alive fighting in the dishonorable wars of the old men. Who I appreciate even more, though, are the people of courage who resist killing innocent people and become conscientious objectors. I wish Casey had. I am hoping that would have happened. He told everyone before he left for Iraq that he didn't think he could "kill anyone."

Today we dedicated the Casey Sheehan Memorial Peace Gardens at the Crawford Peace house and we unveiled the memorial stone. It was a very poignant and moving event. Tomorrow we are having a rally here at Camp Casey, everyone is invited. There is great info at the Crawford Peace House website or www.MichaelMoore.com.

We are again going to be sad to leave on Sunday, but if George is still defiling the White House and if the war is still raging, we will be back for Easter.

Someone has to make George face his failures and change his ways. We in the Camp Casey Peace movement are dedicated to that mission. But more importantly we are dedicated to the mission of honoring our fallen heroes by bringing their buddies home alive.

We will keep pressing; we will not give up; we will stay the course; we will prevail.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=550

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » November 27th, 2005, 2:51 pm

CIFA is watching YOU

(. . . and your thoughtcrimes)


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 57_pf.html


More on Pentagon PsyOps and CIFA from the Daily KOS:


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/1/30/95642/8018



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Post by whimsicaldeb » November 27th, 2005, 4:16 pm

CIFA is watching YOU (. . . and your thoughtcrimes)

Good! Because they need to 'see' what we've been thinking and saying for some time now ... (I say as I raise my hemline higher to better show off my bloomers..) :lol:

Not only that ~ it seems to be helping (not my bloomers, letting things be really seen):

November 25th, 2005 7:06 pm
Defense hawk Dicks says he now sees war as a mistake

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=5004

To those who truly believed those that were lying to them; it's taken a while for the truth to sink in; but sink it ~ it has ... and still is.

So let them watch as, and try as best as they can to stop us as we continue to say/ask/protest/and speak about what they'd want to take away; because I'll put my best (our best) up with theirs any day ... because the best WILL win out in the end.

And I'm not just 'rah, rah'ing' ... it's a fact. That article shows it. It's not a walk in the park, it's still challenging ~ but I'm up for the challenge.

It took time, trickery and secrecy for them to implement this crap ; and it'll take time, honesty and openness for this to be seen and then reversed. But by gosh ~ it’ll be reversed, things are already reversing.

Also; concern what they putting out for us to watch (Clear Communications, etc): try this in your own neck of the woods; ask around ... ask people what they are watching? You’ll find out very few people are actually watch network TV beyond “Survivor and Desperate Housewives” and such.

Videos/DVDs; VCR's; TiVo; OnDemand ... they're ruling the day -- what people are watching is more & more what they are choosing to and not what "they'd" choose for us to. So they more they muck around with network TV … the more people move off to ‘do their own thing.’ All their attempts are doing; is moving people away and out of their reaches, not into them. Sure some will and are going to watch ~ but not the majority. And I don’t think they’ve seen or figured this out yet. Which (imo) is a good thing, it's keep they busy wasting their own time & money making crap shows for limited amount of people to watch … and that's their lose, which is everyones gain.

:D

Let um try ~ it only shows how strong liberty and the people’s desire for it, maintaining it really is. It's their lesson and we're the teachers.

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Post by jimboloco » November 29th, 2005, 11:33 am

Maybe the medium is the message
and there is some decentralization of the audience
but the big guns of the press wield a lot of power

the last week on good morning amerika abc
they were aboard a navy sub doingk a show

and this morning at CIA hqrtrs
good press for the big guns
and good morning america stays on th air

ya never know when there's a spy in yur midst

as far as Cindy Sheehan goes,
well she evidently is having some impact.
These new anti-war hawks, I mean.

dahlingk i can see yer bloomers!
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Post by whimsicaldeb » November 29th, 2005, 1:08 pm

Oh I know it's happening ... I know they are selling this war; those shows - they're like Wal-Mart commercials. What I'm saying is how many people are really falling for the sales pitch. And then, of those that do, are they any more happier/safer (whatever) than those that fall for any idea that's based on "if you buy this, then "___" happens in your life"

False (embellished, glamorized, etc) advertising is still false advertising ... whether it's about a war; or the next best widget we all could be told we just 'have to' get to be happy/thin ~ whatever.

Like anything that’s being sold where the product is ‘flawed’ … it's limited to those who will buy it; and then limited again by those who do buy it … and find out they’ve been taken. (The fool me once group).

But those wanting more in their lives then being sold a bill of flawed crappy goods to them via the mainstream are still very much alive & well; and very much active – only not on network TV:

Were are here - like here at S8
and S8 isn't the only place or way:

http://studioeight.tv/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5555

There really are groups of people not 'buying' the -- but you're not going to see that (currently) on network TV -- because they don't want you to.

So look elsewhere; look where and find where it's at. They want you to (keep) watching them ... even if you don't like them ... they don't care if all your doing is watching 'what will they do next.' They know that if you've watching them, they've got you hooked.

Fact is, the are many many places where what they doing is being exposed, and better ... doing things differently is happening. And the more they work to keep the truth down ... the more it’s exposed elsewhere.

Why, because ... believe it or not; 'we the people' (globally united) deep down inside of us, really do prefer the truth, and peace more than we prefer BS.

And in the process, those of us in the US are finally getting our chance to deal with, facing what it takes to live work things out under oppression/and the ‘fear’ that this brings. What other countries have been dealing with for some time now.

And I think we're doing okay ~ considering.

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Post by jimboloco » November 29th, 2005, 1:41 pm

oh definately yes
and each one of us is really valuable in that we are tuned into the opposition, the amoorphous opposition

most folk i interact with daily are either repukblionkers
or dumbocratz
but
don't really get it yet.

a simple statement in conversation will often go beyond their boundaries of perception.
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Post by Zlatko Waterman » November 29th, 2005, 3:43 pm

An excellent article about, among other things, how "impervious" George W. Bush is to abandoning his way in Iraq, or even changing strategy.

Events, however, seem to be moving in other directions.

Seymour M. Hersh, an excellent reporter for THE NEW YORKER, does a good job of bringing us "up to date" as of this Nov. 28 posting ( of an article published 11/11).

In this article is included the strategy being considered of giving the Iraqis the direction of the US Air Force bombing missions in Iraq.


(link)

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/a ... 205fa_fact




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Post by whimsicaldeb » November 29th, 2005, 6:57 pm

Hi Z ... as you said, excellent article. While I knew about Bush’s delusions … the amount of Air Force/Strikes, information was an eye opener. I'm impressed by the number of intelligent questions and careful considerations being ask within and by our military; thank god someone is asking those questions/having these concerns. That’s reassuring; compared to leaving all the ‘thinking’ to Bush … that truly would be scary. As far as them not saying much with what they know about how things really are … that doesn't’ surprise me; “loose lips sink ships.” Our military is here to protect our nation … including from enemies within (is/as necessary). That they are aware but not ‘loose lipped’ about it, actually gives me hope. (!)

The article mentions the corruption: and you mentioned that this excellent article was published 11/11 …

Here’s another one that ‘fits’ the corruption issue- only elsewhere; also on 11/11

Excerpt:

The cycle of corruption can be broken – these activists show how,
says Transparency International

Two courageous individuals and a pre-eminent watchdog organisation
to receive TI Integrity Awards


Berlin, 8 November 2005
Version française

Two courageous individuals and a pre-eminent watchdog organisation will be awarded the Transparency International Integrity Awards 2005, on Friday, 11 November 2005, in Berlin, Germany.

Khairiansyah Salman (Indonesia), Abdou Latif Coulibaly (Senegal), and the Movement for Quality Government (Israel) have contributed tremendously to the fight against corruption in their countries. They were selected by the Integrity Awards Committee in recognition of their exceptional bravery in standing up to corruption.
http://www.transparency.org/pressreleas ... wards.html

……End Excerpt

The pieces (the solutions) are out there and already working; we are doing the right things … and most importantly - it's not just us; but it’s happening all over, globally, in other countries as well. Bit by bit, piece by piece, group by group … we’ve been working to pull it all together ~ are correctly as well – and now our work is beginning to pay off, showing itself and our/the effectiveness.

Corruption can indeed be broken … even our own. We’re on the right track.

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a simple statement in conversation will often go beyond their boundaries of perception. -- jimboloco

Thank goodness you have Z and Hes and Mnaz and Knip and all the rest ~ eh! Without them, you'd probably go crazy.
:D

(edited by me for typos ~ hope i got them all ~ but probably haven't ... I'm not good at proof reading.)

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Post by jimboloco » November 30th, 2005, 10:07 am

The proof is in the puddin, Deb.
I have been doing better at proofing my posts. OOPS!

Yes thank goodness I have these contacts also a whole network of others.


Here is one fellow who lives in south California.

Horace W Coleman <hcoleman4@juno.com> wrote:
Good to see a post from you, Jim.

Nixon must be chuckling.. Iraqimization probably won't end any better--for us or the Iraqis--then the V brand did. What's next? Peace with (Middle Eastern) honor?

I spent most of my time in Nam helping guide the tip of the Air Force spear to its target. That taught me that:

* You still need somebody's boots on the ground that you wanr to control

* Precision bombing (although better than it used to be) is a phrase, not an actuality

* If your opponent is stubborn or fatalistic enough, you're going to have to become a very effective, and very well known, butcher--and you still might not get what you want! Also, factions, culture, old grievances, human nature, different interpretations of demockcracy, etc.

* If regime change is all you really want, all you need is the CIA, bribery, diplomacy and Coca Cola capitalism


Hc

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Seymour Hersh New Yorker article UP IN THE AIR Where is the Iraq war headed next?

(Or, as General Curtis LeMay would have said, "Bomb! Bomb! Bomb!")

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/a ... 205fa_fact
Interesting that he sent the same post as Zman.

You all might like to get in touch with him. He is a poet, a VVAW contact in Longy Beachy I think.
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Exiled in America

we are the oil,
the precious pressured residue
squeezed out of history.
We are the ones who pratice
life astride the knife.
We are numbed by sharp indifference
as the blade turns slowly up.
We are the skinny dreams
that shred fat sleep.
We are the unseen stare raising neck hair,
the wronged, the right.
We are the wind & rain that crack rocks,
the pain that birth unlocks.
We are the oil, soothing
the slow flow of freedom,
moving the earth.
We are.
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Post by jimboloco » November 30th, 2005, 10:32 am

FLASH-------
(ode to "civilians")





Well, I finally had that dream.
You know, the silent
vividly colored
real slow motion one
where you watch yourself
be part of The Way Wild Bunch?
I've got new fatigues
(already spotted with potent perfume):
0800 sweat, gun oil, dried blood,
human manure (from rice paddies),
rotten fish sauce that had
oozed down a hot runway
and onto me
(like someone getting "spilled").
fear-stink and eau de cordit
wrinkle noses on dead faces
whiffing themselves
as if it was whiskey.
A toke from a Thai stick, maybe,
a "shotgun" from a shotgun
or a brew could clear all that up
--for a New York minute.
And I'm hitting everything I'm aiming at
The Mattel Shoot 'N' Shell
doesn't need a thumb extractor today.
The fighters are almost on target and
the LT almost read the map right.
Like we almost have
the right strategy (and politics).
not that it really makes any difference.
I'm wasting every one--reticent men,
defiant women, resigned old people
semi-innocent children.
And, all the "slopes," "dinks" and "zips"
have round eyes.



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FORWARD
(ode to "civilians")



Especially the burning coed who says,
in her California accent,
"How come you Vietnam vets
are so cazy?" So I tell her
"Because people like you
ask questions like that!"
Then I give her half a magazine
to read with her half a mind
until she has half a body.

Now I don't worry about going to sleep
(and waking up in pieces or not at all
or just waking up),
blowing my warm cool and
killing someone accidentally
instead of on purpose.
One piece of peace cures
a lot when I finally admit
who and what
the real "enemy" is:

The grunts said
(is it still true two and
a half decades later?)
"It don't mean nothing!"
All I know is, war is
not a metaphor for,
a style of,
or a symbol for,
life.
"Get your ass in the grass!,"
like the sergeant said,
And I have too,
write my own orders,
make my own meanings.
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