Overrated/Underrated

Post by **singlemalt** » December 5th, 2005, 2:56 pm

I'm gonna throw something out here. . .

Eric Clapton -- overrated

Jimmy Paige -- underrated

William Faulkner -- overrated

Kurt Vonnegut -- underrated

Got a problem with this? Got some of your own? Ready to throw down? Bring it.

Post by **tinkerjack** » December 5th, 2005, 4:50 pm

Thinking about some pole questions, those would be excellent pole questions.

Eric Clapton hell no

Jimmy Paige, lost in the ozone, geezer selective memory, no idea.

Faulkner, no

Vonnegut sure this one is really tough.

I been thinking about doing a pole about Crimes Against Humanity, Loss of innocence. When did you learn about crimes against humanity?
I never throw down when I am sober, but put a jim beam in my hand...

Post by **firsty** » December 5th, 2005, 5:09 pm

watermelon - overrated

barn owls - underrated

opiates - underrated

creek beds - overrated

chuckie p - overrated

kundera - underrated

melanoma - overrated

desk fans - underrated

Post by **K&D** » December 5th, 2005, 6:23 pm

Jim Morrison and The Doors- overated
Jimi Hendrix- overated
George Harrison- underrated
Warren Zevon- underrated
Billy Bob Thorton- underrated
Loving Spoonful/John Sebastian- Underrated
Buffalo Springfeild-underrated
The Band- Way underrated
Bruce Hornsby- Underrated
Jimmy Carter-underrated
Lawrence Ferlingehtti- underrated
Gregory Corso-overrated

Post by **singlemalt** » December 5th, 2005, 7:19 pm

firsty -- disagree on watermelon, melanoma and the chuckster. agree on barn owls and desk fans.

was disappointed in "haunted" by chuck, but i still forgive him.

K&D -- disagree on Zevon, hornsby. agree on the doors.

hornsby? kind of glad his 15 minutes are over.

Post by **Zlatko Waterman** » December 5th, 2005, 7:26 pm

Rip Torn ( actor)- under-rated

Charles Dance ( actor) under-rated

Helen Mirren (actress) under-rated

Elizabeth McGovern ( movie actress) - under-rated

Geoffrey Hill ( British poet)- under-rated

Ronald Reagan ( US President)- over-rated

Warren Olney (NPR broadcaster)- under-rated

Ian Masters ( Pacifica Public Radio political analyst) under-rated

Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez- (radio political reporters) under-rated

Frank Auerbach ( British painter) - under-rated

Sandra Fisher ( British painter)- under-rated

I.F. Stone ( journalist)- underrated

Dr. Phil (tv personality)- over-rated

Michael O'Donohugue ( comedy writer)- under-rated

Pat Donahue ( guitarist)-- under-rated

Art Pepper ( jazz saxophonist)-- under-rated

Brad Mehldau ( jazz pianist) under-rated

Post by **YABYUM** » December 6th, 2005, 8:43 am

I join this thread because it seems to be more of a personal statement than a debate.....

Sleep--over rated

tattoos--under rated

Celebrities--over rated

the word "SWEET!"--under rated

Faith Hill--over the fucking moon rated

Reality TV--shouldn't even be rated

Bowling--under rated

West Coast(so far)--over rated

Post by **firsty** » December 6th, 2005, 10:11 am

corso is not overrated. i dont see how any of the beats, save kerouac/burroughs/ginsberg can even be anywhere near overrated. not that they are overrated, but theyre the only ones who are even rated, generally. corso is definitely not overrated anyway.

theres a west coast?

Post by **singlemalt** » December 6th, 2005, 10:44 am

Z-dub -- agree on rip torn, ronald reagan, dr. phil.

yabby -- disagree on sleep, tattoos, "sweet." agree on faith hill.

by the way, yabby, try this one on for size. . . whenever you get the urge to belt out a "sweet" exchange it for "nice." you might want to extend the "eye" sound like this "niiiiiiiiiice." or you can get crazy and go with "nishe." just a thought.

firsty -- are you saying kerouac is overrated? i'm not sure i'd disagree if you did.

Post by **K&D** » December 6th, 2005, 12:32 pm

i don't like corso thats all.

i like the word "sweet" as well and as of yet it has not become overrated for me.

Post by **firsty** » December 6th, 2005, 12:37 pm

on sweet and nice - nice is definitely the way to go. even have my kids saying it.

kerouac is not overrated. my point was that someone cant be overrated if theyre not someone considered highly rated. the only beats that can be considered highly rated are kerouac, burroughs and ginsberg. corso can not possibly be considered overrated, unless barely gaining footnotes in poetry history can be considered too high a rating for anyone.

and, no, kerouac is not overrated. neither is burroughs or ginsberg, in my opinion. but i cant categorically object to them being considered overrated in someone else's opinion, because they are generally rated "high." i categorically reject any other beat poet being overrated.

Post by **K&D** » December 6th, 2005, 12:46 pm

o.k here's what i'm saying....

among beat generation lovers.....Gregory Corso is given too much credit.

the general public doesn't even know who he is.

i feel at this rate i will be using the term "Sweet" untill the day i die.

Post by **firsty** » December 6th, 2005, 12:51 pm

corso's poetry is NICE.

Post by **K&D** » December 6th, 2005, 1:03 pm

corso's poetry is so not "sweet"

Post by **tinkerjack** » December 6th, 2005, 1:35 pm

Ronald Reagan ( US President)- over-rated

Is that understated?

He made us feel so good about ourselves again didn't he.
I remember watching those festivities for the reopening of he statue of liberty. What were all those gaudy red white and blue flags about?

And then a dog came on and farted the National Anathema and I cried it was so beautiful.

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