community developing problem

[YABYUM]

I tried college.......four months total. I was bored to tears. But I had already seen to much highway and witnessed far to many horizons fade in the rear view mirror. Those people were teaching from an entirely different perspective than the one in wich I see this life. I don't know how old you are, but I suggest you go with your inner stream of thoughts. You know what you want to do. It's all related to surfing, baby! You can sit and bob like a dead duck all day long and let as many waves pass as you desire. You'll see one......You'll know right away it's yours. You'll turn and start to paddle, but the moment that fucker starts carrying you, there is no time for hesitation or fear or indecision. Any of those and you're gonna get slammed on the ocean floor with the force of that energy landing on top of you. The moment your inner stream of thought decides to turn and go for it, thats it, man. Paddle, paddle, paddle, get to your feet and join energies. Not sure if that helps or makes sense, but whenever I can talk about wave and make it a metaphor for life......I just can't help it.

[firsty]

dont treat college courses like the end of the thing. judih's comment is dead on. you're not going to film school to be in film school, you're going to film school to get "necessary" training and broad experience in the field, which you can hone later on when you're forced thru the circumstances of time and place to be on your own doing your own thing. writing workshops arent why novelists want to become novelists, but they are a path. the path to the palace is not always paved.

part of being a successful person (within your own definition of successful) is discipline. part of discipline is patience, doing things in an orderly manner such as in school, learning habits, methods of communication, learning what is good and bad by observing successes and failures in others around you.

thoreau was in his late 20s when he went to walden pond, after graduating from harvard. he couldnt have gleamed the knowledge from solitude that he did without first setting a baseline from his experiences.

all paths are worthy of traveling, all life can be art. just dont get so down about things after a year, two years...shit, people older than me are still trying to figure things out, people older than me still rue lost time and regret wasted efforts, and i'm older than you i'm sure by a lot. dont sweat it. get laid, get drunk, start fights, keep writing, observe, observe, observe. there are no rules, even for rulebreakers.

[firsty]

to wit:

all those damn hippies who tried to apply the walden ethic to their lives prior to gaining any wordly knowledge whatsoever went on to basically destroy the fabric of western civilization, with their halfassed ideas and selfish notions of community. most of them went on to own volvos and SUVs, build expensive but shoddy real estate property and create the 80s backlash of consumerism and ethnocentric asshats that has fed this bullshit we now endure.

dont be a fucking hippie. make some good movies. we could use it. (dont forget - the hippies wrecked hollywood, too. jerkfaces.)

[mtmynd]

firsty - 'too wit' would've been more like it on that...

all hippies... "most of them went on to own volvos and SUVs, build expensive but shoddy real estate property and create the 80s backlash of consumerism and ethnocentric asshats that has fed this bullshit we now endure." damn! who've you been observing? your own parents? relatives?

[tinkerjack]

Hold it right here

hey i have a rather philisophical thought/problem
but i'm not getting what i want out of life. I

spark I am going to have to drive around the block on this one and try to back in here. I hope I can stay on track here.

Courage. Can we talk Camus here. Can we speak of Sissypuss?

You know I don’t know. But I kind of liked that essay a lot. Rock on study hard try to learn something. Make movies, we need to see them.
Is this something to do about college or is it something else.

Okay moving on

the only classes that i feel like i'm getting anything out of is my politics classes, my film classes aren't pushing me to think of any answers for myself or think about anything pertinant to my own life.

You know something weird about that sentence sparky. I don’t get it. You are not finding answerw pertinent to your own life in film classes. I kind of thought of it as vocational training sparky, why do you have to find answers to your personal life in a course about how to make movies, comparing it to say auto mechanics, yeah I could learn a lot from a carburater.

So you think about politics, and you learn how to make movies. What is wrong with that?
Mike Moore is the most underated film maker in america right now. How much influence do you think he has had on those 38% poll ratings of Bush. All I am saying sparky is this is your got dam sophomore year, I don’t know if you need to graduate but I would not be so sure I know it all until I took some senior year courses, and if I was lucky some Honors courses. Just for example did Moore go to film school? Neve mind I google myself

I don’t mind rolling that got dam boulder up the hill, something to do, and on the walk back down the mountain I enjoy the view, stop to smell a flower, maybe put my head set on listen to Mohamed’s Radio. On Sundays I smoke a joint. On birthdays and funerals I sip a little low down southern whiskey cause it is good for those about to perish.

MT
I can say This about That
Hippies look good in the box.

What do you say to someone who tells you they are not getting what they want out of life.?
Sparky I do not mock you I do not envy your youth. I do not feel like Cat Stevens, look at me I am happy, I only hold you to your words, and hope that you will hold me to mine. I don't think there are many college sophomores who are getting what they want out of life.

I been hangin' around camera stores
I been learnin' 'bout sight
I been talkin' to film makers
I been workin' on eyes

What was the greatest Canadain Rock and Roll song ever wrote.


I been hangin' around gas stations
I been learnin' 'bout tires
I been talkin' to grease monkeys
I been workin' on cars


I been hangin' around libraries
I been learnin' 'bout books
I been talkin' to playwriters
I been workin' on words, phrases


I been hangin' around hospitals
I been learnin' 'bout dyin'
I been talkin' to heart doctors
I been workin' on disease



This tune is home grown
Don't come from Hong Kong
This tune is home grown
Don't come from Hong Kong

I been hangin' around grain elevators
I been learnin' 'bout food
I been talkin' to soil farmers
I been workin' on land



I been hangin' around camera stores
I been learnin' 'bout sight
I been talkin' to film makers
I been workin' on eyes

Moose Jaw saw a few, Moosomin too
Runnin' back to Saskatoon
Red Deer, Terrace and a Medicine Hat
Sing another prairie tune
Sing another prairie tune

This tune is home grown
Don't come from Hong Kong
This tune is home grown
Don't come from Hong Kong

[tinkerjack]

Come to think of it you can learn al lot from a Carburetor.

[WIREMAN]

simply....simplify.....simpl-fie-fo-fum "LIVE"
don't think so mucho much
enjoy precious youth whilst
ya got it, i look at pics of a 25 year old
wireman and think "boy you had the world
by the balls"....life will have enuff complexity
just go make som children and find out.....

k&d i remember sittin round madams organ
art coop back in the 70's and there was this cool old guy
minor davis was his name, we'd all be sittin round
listening to the music and playin with the beautiful yippie chicks,
havin a hell-u-va time and mior would look over at me and say,
"these be the good old days!"....and they were and now at 52
i'm glad i sought em out and really, i mean "really" enjoyed them,
and as a part of the sowebohemian art scene here in baltimore i still do....go for the gusto mi amigo......

[Jacob]

Sorry about bumping this topic back up, but a link was sent to me, and I thought I should give my 2 cents.

I currently do not go to school, and all filming and editing has been learned and completed on my own. I've picked up tricks and help here and there, but never went to schooling for it. I suppose I could learn all the concepts and proper words for techniques in the "professional world" of filming, but is it really necessary to spend thousands on something I want to create and learn right now, if I have the capacity to do so?

Film what you want others to see, if that is your goal. Convey your message and learn how to refine your craft. It can be tedious at times, because you're sitting on your butt a lot of the time with editing and such, but it can also be rewarding. It also helps to have expensive computers to make things faster. Just keep at it and you will find a way to profess what you feel.

Though as I've been learning, what I say and what I do are two different things, so maybe I just need to take my own advice. I don't know.

Again, apologies if I've bumped an old topic that didn't want to be bumped.