So, what the hell is really going on?

[mnaz]

The more my beleaguered brain ponders recent events, the more I skirt dangerously close to the conspiracy fringe. And that's downright unhealthy.

Why would Bush suddenly pull out of Afghanistan, turning the job over to the local warlords, just when the troops were closing in on bin Laden? Why would Bush suddenly divert everyone's attention to a monumental avalanche of propaganda which, through relentless repetition, saturated the nation's consciousness
with the manufactured "grave threat" of Iraq, even as bin Laden was allowed to slip into the shadows again?

Could it possibly be that this time the conspiracy theorists are correct? I mean, the circumstantial evidence is piling up, and it seems harder to refute as time goes on. We know that the neo-cons had an aggressive expansionist agenda, dating from the '90s, but it was going to take an extreme action against the US by a hated enemy to give this agenda any political traction. Would they really stoop so low as to manufacture this extreme action?

These are nagging, highly troubling questions for me. I'd like to know if anyone has any developing theories and/or emerging information on them:

1) How many of you Studio-8ers believe that there's a good chance that Bush and bin Laden are actually working together?

2) Did Bush & Co. stage the 9/11 attacks, or at least allow them to happen?

I find it incomprehensible that an Administration would subject its own people to this type of murderous hell. Absolutely unthinkable.
Yet I've heard more than one person recently testify that they believe Bush is responsible for the destruction of 9/11.

What's really going on? Any ideas?

[mtmynd]

conspiracy - an agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

'Conspiracy' in addition I think involves a great deal of cloak and dagger intrigue... secrecy to the hilt.

Yet when we hear the word the vast majority ignore it at best or worse, cast the curse of condemnation upon those that mention it... a perfect thing for the conspirator! who in the world would believe that 'something like that' would happen? who in the world would even do anything like that? it's like the perfect crime... and the conspirator only needs to spread more and more doubt, and even spread more rumors to completely cloud the conspiracy. when we have so many things to blame or to accuse of causing the possible conspiracy it all becomes futile... leaving the conspirator(s) free. (think JFK assasination)

Been to conspiracyplanet dot com lately? that'll give one a good case of paranoia... which most would definitely like to avoid - another plus for the conspirator, eh?

or do a google on the bush family... from Prescott on up to Dubya and his brothers... Neil and the Hinckleys for instance... Conspiracy? who is to say and what consclusive evidence could one produce that would be acceptable for others to beleive?

On AC today, paquerette (what a gal!) linked this, btw -

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/opinion/30PINK.html

now even though this is not technically a 'conspiracy', but if this info is available, one could readily understand Carl Rove and CO knowing about this and using it to its maximum...


All of it makes good reading, but personally (even tho I like reading such stuff), it does little for my peace of mind, which incidently, is another reason 'conspiracies' get pushed aside...

[abcrystcats]

I don't think Bush and Bin Laden are literally "working together". anything's possible though. Do you suppose they met up at a Bilderberger convention a few years ago and struck up a deal?

Seriously though, I think it works to Bush's perfect advantage that Osama Bin Laden stays alive to keep broadcasting terror and fear to the American people from his hideaway in some ancient Muslim palace, or wherever he is. As I said in a thread on Arcanum: Bin Laden is Snowball to Bush's Napoleon. Point and counterpoint. Bush can continue to forge forward with his plans to dominate the Middle East, with the thin veneer of a "War on Terror" as long as Terrorist Number One is alive and well and on your TV set.

[mnaz]

I don't know.... I'm shockingly close to actually believing this stuff. Because the 9/11 attack preparations began long before Bush took office, it seems more likely that the Bushites perhaps caught wind of terrorist intentions to fly airplanes into targets (explicit 8/6/01 memo, etc.), but did not seriously try to stop it. But even if this memo and plot happened to be missed out of carelessness, the Bushites still might have been in a general "wait and see" mode, taking little defensive action, anticipating a possible attack in the U.S. of a much lesser magnitude, which they could nevertheless use to jumpstart their program. I agree with Cat that Bush & bin Laden do not have a literal "working relationship".

This idea just seems much more compelling and believable to me now than it did three years ago, given the established fervent, radical ideology of the neo-con cabal in D.C., and now the ruthless streak of drive and deception which they have clearly exhibited, for anyone in the world who is paying attention.

You're right, Cecil. None of this does any good for my peace of mind. Blahh! I've still can't shake my nasty cold... I'm sick, and discouraged... I think I need to go hide in the desert again pretty soon....

[abcrystcats]

I think it's possible to overanalyze this and investigate this issue to death.

You can make yourself crazy.

Or you can pledge that when a person comes to your door, begging for mercy and shelter, you will give it to them, regardless of any political pressure from either side.

I take comfort in the belief that I know right from wrong. That's all I am asked to do. If other people do wrong, then they will pay. I will judge moment by moment and act on behalf of the oppressed, no matter who they are. That's really all you can do.

Politics is bullshit. Really. When it comes down to it, you're asked to care for human life. That is the only politics that has meaning for anyone. Just promise yourself that you will do that and everything else takes care of itself.

[mnaz]

Amen to that.

Very well said, Cat.

[Arcadia]

One of the books I´m actually reading aswers these questions.
I´ll try to translate some parts later.
Take care,

Arcadia