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Post by tinkerjack » December 4th, 2005, 7:42 pm

the drawing room
I think that is how I see studio eight, Dor's salon? those small but influential groups of people who met in europe at the homes of people like Rahel Varnhagen. You are so right on here Hester I could not say anymore. But I never have seen a post of yours I did not want to hijack :arrow:
wafts out into the playground indeed, where children act it out glaringly...and so on.
Oh yes, and an asylum for the terminally vain
"Hey look ma, no hands." 8)

political discussions have been taking precedence here right now, because the current administration is fucking with some of our most valued cultures!
the current issues, could destroy the culture kitchen itself, the way they are going, and keep going, despite obvious seeing is believing knowledge that we've all been conned.
it is bad, hester, this culture war is getting out of hand, we are a ship of fools. Four years later and we are weaker and more vulnerable and unprepared to the fire next time. Makes you want to rock and roll all night long :cry:

some folks trust in...
I don't trust in...
just playing in the band...
I am not really crying yet Hester. But my guitar gently weeps. 8)
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Post by jimboloco » December 4th, 2005, 10:53 pm

Ah yes, I wanted to get the run of things, now have three days off plus tonite, sweet, and got back to this. It seems that Art Guy's window on the world is a blessed one, indeed.
tend to ignore political news as I try to not allow it to effect my life...I do believe we as a species are evolved beyond the need for political systems to give order and reason to our lives when we have poetry music art and jus sittin round the fire exchangin stories of the hunt...
and I thought, now that's the unseen luxury of living in a progressive country, man, and like am aware that some of us feel the heat, man, like
I also think that political discussions have been taking precedence here right now, because the current administration is fucking with some of our most valued cultures!

I'll certainly be glad when the focus is something else. I've never felt like a "grownup" at the political round table myself, but for now, I think it's important to keep discussing as we are, because the current issues, could destroy the culture kitchen itself, the way they are going, and keep going, despite obvious seeing is believing knowledge that we've all been conned.
Ooops. There I go again! Politicizing!
and some of us express the pathos of it all so well, man,

throw them mother fukers out on their ass after the criminal charges go down lets have a war crimes trial. No I am not mad at nobody, it is all good, I don't trust in nothing but I know it will come out rightand Jesus said to the Fig Tree...
and The Fig Tree said to Jesus, go shit in your hat
untill the culture becomes tragic and absurd
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and we ventilate in perverse ways.

LitKicks called it "poetry and politics" but it was haphazard at best
find a right winger floating and spring down at your most precious thoughts
"Life isn't fair," she said. Oh what is that spozed to mean?

So the micro culture here is much more pleasant and productive as well, with the Knipster sometimes playing the devil's advocate, he do it so well, and elicits unfathomable currents of poetry, prosaic demurring, and golly in the process we make friends,

this is a healthier micro culture, here

Humanities board, whatever.
Kulture on the skidz, beats.
but we look for community and refuge
and with our connections we can persevere


I am working on a Cindy Sheehan post from the VFP convention last summer just before she hit it big in Crawford. And I am going to the Camp Casey vigil here in Tampa Bay manyana night
and afterwords do soup and supper with Vets for Peace.
It is a gathering
which energises, celebrates, and yet our common concern is wars, lies, and tragic militarism. It impacts deeply into the cultural fabric. How we sustain ourselves is the cultural blessings of the opposition. Thazz all folk.

Little birdie little birdie
sing me your birdie song
we're here for such a short time
such a a long time to be gone,,,,,
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Post by tinkerjack » December 5th, 2005, 1:48 am

Knipster sometimes playing the devil's advocate, he do it so well, and elicits unfathomable currents of poetry, prosaic demurring, and golly in the process we make friends,
So hard to shake hands with the devil, if one is a heretic like myself, I must truly love my enemy. It is good to have play devils, takes my mind off those crooks in DC. I watched some of the Hokkies FSU game, a break from all this tinking and drinking, mundane world reigns tomorrow, Jim Beam died tonight, sad all 375 ml. My head felt pretty good this morning. Don’t mind me jimbo, I ain’t seen nothing yet.

Artman and Knip are surely blessed. They were not born in the USA. But then neither was Red Emma, but I will put her up against any god dam statue of a general with pigeon shit on his hat. Same for Cindy. U talk about absurd Jimbo, Kerry thinks he deserves another chance? We need him in the senate too much. What the hell was that dog and pony show at the boston democratic convention in 04, PT-109? Bad handlers? How does Michael B. say it Kerry can kill them better.

Yeah jimboloco I am proud to be a dues paying card carrying member of the studio eight absurdist assembley fo anarchical idiots.

Yeah P&P was very little political poetry
Mostly Polemics, what ever they are.

So he died awhile back, had to be the booze, did he even make it to fifty, why do I feel like I put a nail in his coffin. Jimbo it is a religious war, does it ever get any worse then that? Power greedy theocrats on both sides, what’s a poor boy to do,
Daybreak on the land
Let him cast a stone at me for playing in the band
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Post by jimboloco » December 5th, 2005, 12:12 pm

Gore would do better than Kerry, and forgetaboutit Edwards, I keep getting emails from his wife, man. What's that?
She should be sending me a donation.



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Artman and Knip are surely blessed. They were not born in the USA. But then neither was Red Emma, but I will put her up against any god dam statue of a general with pigeon shit on his hat. Same for Cindy. U talk about absurd Jimbo, Kerry thinks he deserves another chance? We need him in the senate too much. What the hell was that dog and pony show at the boston democratic convention in 04, PT-109? Bad handlers? How does Michael B. say it Kerry can kill them better.
But Emma went to live in Baltimore)ain't it hard just to live). Toronto and Ottawa, on the other hand, cold as they are, are also warm hearted cities in a warm hearted nation. Amerika is the land where irony and deceipt rule, and the ruling class will rue the day when th great awakening will happen.
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Post by tinkerjack » December 5th, 2005, 3:44 pm

"I used to sleep at the foot of old glory"
Watching these travell shows about Europe, beautiful old europe, Palaces and Mansions of the nobility now museums and open to the public, The ruined castles and fortresses stand silent peaceful witness to of a thousand years of bloody history.

Poor amerika, we squander our blood and treasure on a fools vision. Kerry and Bush our Ivy league legacy. I did not know that both sets of Kerry's grandparents are Jewish. Not that it is important. He is a good man, but he has a good job, he can help a lot, but I realize now his heart was never in politics. I want a gender change, can women do any worse. I would like one who does not have blood on her hands. Boxer sounds good, but maybe there is no chance for a woman yet. I still just barely believe in the ballot box. But the sceene that when down in Ohio with the electronic voting machines from Diebold is very worrisome. Again why did Kerry wash his hands of it.

What is McCain the manchurian candidate, he looks so sincerly pained about the torture. Homeboy treated returning POW's when he was just a flight surgeon, what he learned from them made him decide to be a psychiatrist, he was inspired by their stories. jimboloco you inspire me to try and be a better man. One day some place I would be honored to meet you and shake your hand.
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Post by jimboloco » December 7th, 2005, 6:05 pm

well thankyou
speaking about sex changes

i was at my camp casey demo last monday eve. i saw an old friend as we flashed our signs into the headlights of cars.
i saw this rather homespun lady with a sign
i walked up and said hello it was a he-she
she said hello with a handshake
shaken i was, returning to my old friends away a bit
later he-she said she'e see us at the meetingf after

i asked old jessee and he said sh'e had a sex change operation
they left the 4 o/clogk shadow tho a bit ragged yet smiling
he said she don't take shit from nobody

later at the meeting he-she was sitting at a table with another lady, both in their fifties, the other laso was a lady as far as i could tell when we did a round of intros.

the homespun lady was in the army at quang trui province, the dmz and as it turns out the other lady was a marine in vietnam
in the infantry. and said she'd also had a sex change operation.

then i said, "one thing's for sure. you can never be dismembered from this club!" they laughed and said that's why they belonged to the vets for peace. i said i'd never join any club that'd have me for a member, just this one an exception anyhow meeting adjurned, ladies said farewell next month the mlk day parade

that is one way to see the spirit of the revolution in the streets.
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Post by Traveller13 » December 8th, 2005, 5:13 am

Artguy, I was asking myself the same thing too.
I posted a couple of apolitical topics here but they were quickly drowned by War-in-Iraq and What-governments-are doing.
It's true that politics and culture influence each other, but politics only determin the rules of a society so that it doesn't fall apart. Culture goes a lot deeper than that. Politics isn't about a certain country or region's art, foor, unusual habits, etc, even though it can play a role in that for some cases.
This thread makes me want to post apolitical stuff here again (aint I a stinker)
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Post by jimboloco » December 8th, 2005, 10:28 pm

Hey I've got my two Viet Vet queens, man, for my associates,
I mean, I don't compartmentalizze. Culture is all its manifestations
and a culture of dominant warmongers and subservient masses with a dissaffected middle class and a vocal opposition yas yas, ain't it all grande.!pseudo democracy triumphant,,,,

i like, fer instance, sir herbert read, a ww1 infantry vet who became art historian and art chronicler extroadinaire, or josef bauys, a pilot in the luftwaffe, who had a mystical near death experience and transformed, was a conceptual artist, stated anything could be art if it had a certain aesthetic about it, and so, our politics, not the campaigning kind, but the policies that politicians make, entirely lack this aesthetic sensibility, that would inform about far superior tact and skill at combining a military force with a higher cultural standard as a policy of restraint and precision when necessary.

I guess it all boils down to what are your passions.
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