I haven't followed the Iraq thing since it began

[lovingpenfull]

because it is all the same, so I don't know what is going on, but doesn't it seem like there is always a fucking election going on? I was hearing about some election a year ago there, and still shit on the yahoo 'news' and other news places about the Iraq election, this is the longest election I ever heard of.

[Doreen Peri]

I don't get it either. They had one election very recently and now they're having another one.

This time, I heard on the news there are literally hundreds of parties and thousands of people running for something or other but nobody says what they're running for.

[tinkerjack]

It is too late now. We will never know if there was another way. So now it is a noble cause. Maybe some good will come out of it. But we will never know if we could have achieved the same ends without war. With out thousands of dead and thousands of horribley wounded.

[firsty]

"more or less 30,000" iraqi civilians have been killed, according to bush. he doesnt give a shit enough to get the number right, maybe less? whats the difference, right? theyre all a buncha brownskinned heathens anyway, right?

yeah, dont pay attention. thats the point, yo. the reason news coverage of this war is significantly less than that of vietnam is precisely because news networks ratings hogs and pr gurus think that americans dont feel like hearing about it. same old thing. blah blah blah. who cares?

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[Doreen Peri]

A year ago, there were at least 100,000 Iraqi citizens killed. There's posts all over this board from back then quoting the news sources.

Kill kill kill. Right. It makes me ill.

I suspect the "elections" don't really matter anyway. It doesn't matter who's running. The US will place whoever they want to place in whatever offices they create. They'll run the show.

Many years from now when people finally evolve, they'll look at the 20th and 21st centuries as the disgusting era of barbarism that it is.

Wanna see a good documentary? "The Fog of War" - just watched it the other night. Robert Mcnamara had tears in his eyes.

[lovingpenfull]

who in the name of bog is Robert Mcnamara? I've hear the name before, but I can't remeber what he looks like. This whole world domination thing is getting old, let's hold a vote to end it once and for all, or did we do that already? Who won, or was that last vote about some consitution or something? I'm jes a Prole, I don' have no memory anyways, le's jes let them exparts take car of things?

[Axanderdeath]

aparently it is the first full term govrenment that has been elected--but did you see the ballets? Over a thousand fucking candanits!!!
so how long is a full term in iraq? Last term was what 50 years? I think as well as all of you that it was the wrong chioce to go in to iraq--the wrong choice to make up fake intelligence--to vote in bush--that was kind of what that thing about voteing was about I posted--why is it that there is a moron bible thumping majority in america? Fuck I wonder if canada could vote in with you guys if anything would have been different?--well anyway america is seting up some nice little oil rich (pipe line) territories around the world--foriegn policy!!! America does The world!!! that is the slogan--I am afraid to ride the metro some times--They say that terroist were caught with all of canada's subaway and sky trains and public transit plans!! I am afraid to take a fucking metro!!! Nd it is cold up here--

it is really great to see a none functional govrenment set up in Iraq--canada is fucked and we only have 4 parties--that country is fuck fuck fuck!

[lovingpenfull]

but if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow...it's going to be alright, and you know it

[Zlatko Waterman]

Dear lovingpenful:


Here's a "non-left-wing" summary of Robert McNamara and his role in US Defense and foreign policy:


http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/sec ... namara.htm




--Z

[Zlatko Waterman]

lovingpenful:

Here's a glimpse at preps for nuclear war ( against Iran or whomever . . .) which is very much a part of the "protective reaction" and "re-emptive strike" McNamara philosophy, also ( and recently) promulgated by Rumsfeld and Cheney:


http://www.antiwar.com/orig/hirsch.php?articleid=8263


( make sure to check out some of the hyperlinks in this text) . . .




--Z

[tinkerjack]

McNammara one of "The Best and The Brightest"

The best and the brightest was a book about JFK administration.

Now we have the worst and the dullest.

If the best and brightest could get us into that much trouble,...

[lovingpenfull]

Thanks for the links, I'll read them a bit at a time. And here I thought this Mcnamara character was an actor.

[V-Agent]

The world is rampant with right-wingnuts - and they're all working for the Bu$h administration.

Coincidence?
Hardly - the Roman high seats during the last hurrah of the empire was chock-full of idiots, too - and look at what happened to them.