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Post by **stilltrucking** » February 19th, 2006, 11:40 am

SooZen it is all water moving under the bridge. Nothing to gripe about. I miss those writers, I don't know if some of them are here writing under different names, cylance? headburner, trying to remember the guy who wrote all those haiku more than mtmynd I think.

Thanks for the tip on abbehill. I suppose you always remember the first haiku that tripped your trigger. snapped your synapses.

Listen:
I should warn you my Osho card for today is

Schizophrenia
I may have to get some more sock puppets out to deal with it.

Scooter you probably know this but here is the link for the Archives, they only go back to 2001.

http://www.litkicks.com/BoardArchive/index.html

Post by **Doreen Peri** » February 19th, 2006, 12:35 pm

Scoot -
I can't get any of those pages to load. I waited 10 minutes for one of them and the progress bar only loaded half way. How did you find the threads, btw, and what are they? I've tried searching for threads via google and occasionally, I've gotten lucky, but more often, not.

Truckin-
I CAN get that main page to load.
http://www.litkicks.com/BoardArchive/index.html
But the weird thing with the archives is when I hit a link in one of the threads where there are other posts below it, all I can see is the one post I hit, not the outline of the other posts which replied to it, so then you have to go back to the top and track your way down to try to find the other links to the conversation again. About peresozo, yeah you're right.. he wrote some good stuff on occasion and that will be missed, but I really don't think that was his purpose being here. His purpose was to disrupt the boards. It was pretty clear. The work it took to try to find the human beneath only to be called a slut and a whore and an illiterate and more words I don't care to type was more work than I'm willing to do. I love myself and all of you enough not to let someone come to our party and throw drinks in all of our faces over and over and over. He truly was the epitome of the definition of "troll."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

SooZ-
We all made great friends there. I agree, it's a shame some people don't want to get along with each other. I hate it when I see people treated rudely. Worse than that, I hate being one of them!

Post by **stilltrucking** » February 19th, 2006, 12:52 pm

Sorry Doreen I lied to scooter. I think that is his sense of hurmor which is pretty sick. I could not get the links to work either. My first reply to him was something like "All those links are 404, was that your point." but I edited and decided to play alnong with him.

I think SooZen got the joke faster than I did.

Yes navigation is not being made any easier. I am just grateful they are saving something. I knew peresoso was back, but he seems to be a little more humble than he used to.

I hope this place becomes everything you want it to. Clay is a handy man to have around, I love that honest pirate heart of his. I am sure we will have many arguements. And I am sure we will always be friends. I still think brooklyn is kind of a twerp, when he says "dues fucking paid? He might find out today he is way behind in his dues. Judge no man happy until he is dead. That is when all dues are paid. We get our with drawl card. Head on off to the happy huniting ground, no chance of getting shot in the face by a dick head with a shot gun there.

done

Post by **Lightning Rod** » February 19th, 2006, 12:59 pm

I don't like to talk on this subject. That's why I have not participated in the internecine battles that have revolved around Litkicks and several other sites. I don't look at what I do as a competitive enterprise.

I like Levi. Even if he chooses to ban me from his site, I would still welcome him into my home again and play music with him again late night in the Algonquin Hotel.

My observation from talking to Levi is that he never intended to build the community that evolved from Litkicks. The whole thing was a surprise for him. He was just trying to establish an online literary magazine and it blossomed into an active community. Then personalities became involved etc, etc.

When I think of Studio Eight, I think about it as a community. Yes, it is also a repository of ideas and artwork and music and writing, yes, it is a free and welcoming environment for expression, but the soul of this place, or any place, is in the community of the people who inhabit it. I think we are lucky to have found each other and wherever we gather or however widely we are scattered in the world, we are still a community. There is a core of people here who have been acquainted for years over the internet and many have met in person.

Many of us originally met at Litkicks. It was only by coincidence that Studio Eight opened for business at the same time that Litkicks closed it's doors. This was not planned or intended, but I think that the whole process has solidified our community. I was disappointed that Levi didn't want to continue with the old Litkicks, but I am not here to question his vision of his own site. I would like to participate on Litkicks still, and I wish Levi and Co would participate here. But I have no control of these things.

Post by **Doreen Peri** » February 19th, 2006, 1:03 pm

the internecine battles that have revolved around Litkicks and several other sites

What battles?

Oh and where's my dictionary? I donno what internecine means.

But all I need is an IN or an NE on the scrabble board and the rest of those letters in my rack and I can make a bingo out of it.

Thanks!

Post by **sooZen** » February 19th, 2006, 1:25 pm

Jack...my point of view is my point of view. You may think it is bull but that is not my problem...

Dor...you know I love you. (I had to look that 'internecine' one up too!

Today is Nascar day...smacks!

Post by **stilltrucking** » February 19th, 2006, 1:32 pm

I would like to participate on Litkicks still, and I wish Levi and Co would participate here. But I have no control of these things.

I feel the same. I don't loose no sleep over litkicks. It is nice of them to leave the archives up on the net.

Intercine Brings to mind Peloponnesian War by Thucydides wars. It destroyed Athens and Sparta in the end.

http://classics.mit.edu/Thucydides/pelopwar.html

in·ter·nec·ine ( n t r-n s n , - n, -n s n )
adj.
1. Of or relating to struggle within a nation, organization, or group.
2. Mutually destructive; ruinous or fatal to both sides.
3. Characterized by bloodshed or carnage.

What ever happened to Novalark

Clay things are really tight down here, I lost a month's work cause I lost my voice. I will do it for $1100, that is my finally offer. I do have some self-respect left.

There was an interesting study of cognitive dissonance about thirty years ago. They found that people would lie for five bucks, but when they raised the offer to $100 the subjects were less willing to tell a deliberate lie. Sounds counter intuitive? But that was the objective observable facts. They put it down to cognitive dissonance
I think money had something to do with it too. I remember one of the things that attracted me to litchicks was his statement about his business model "Litkicks had no business model."

It gives me the squirms when people attack brooklyn using the stereotype of the money grubbing Jew.

Shut my mouth
sit on my hands
not another word to type
I got no more to say
done done done

Post by **judih** » February 19th, 2006, 3:10 pm

yeah, well. Thanks to the link to the archive, i've been wandering Roadgoing
and action poetry -both the early months of 2001 and the last one of July 2004 and it was fucking amazing. That's all.

What a high energy movement.
Unbelievable what went down there.

Levi said that the little dot format was a pain to code but what a fantastic re-cap of how things were.

Seeing the interaction graphically is like walking through a 3-D gallery.

He had the lit as a basis. He got all his street traffic from those searching for beat lit.

Then along came the poets and action poetry took off.

All the other stuff - the personality wars and the flames and such were a sideline to me.
The real gold was the poetry.

That side is no more. There is a poem and there is a reaction but the time lapse means that there's no high octane energy.

Here at the Studio, we have a smaller population but considering the place is only a year old, what's going on here is going to be a magnet for more.

It'll never be like the early days, cause early day stuff can never be repeated. Yet, these are our early days and in 4 years, we'll look back at the first jams and at the amazing columns and artistry and we'll all be awestruck from how we were 'once'.

nostalgia is good, sometimes. It makes me appreciate the present.

Post by **stilltrucking** » February 19th, 2006, 3:24 pm

The real gold was the poetry.

True enough but the platinum for me was the community. A little bit of cyberspace virtual holy land. What ever it was and still is that archive is a national treasure.

I used to call it brooklyn's asylum for the broken hearted and terminally vain. I am sure that is not what he intended.

ok this time I am really going to shut up.

Post by **Scootertrash** » February 19th, 2006, 4:58 pm

stilltrucking wrote:
Scooter you probably know this but here is the link for the Archives, they only go back to 2001.

http://www.litkicks.com/BoardArchive/index.html

Hey, that's cool!! I never knew that existed...those links I posted were collected off the http://archive.org "wayback machine" which tracks or finds now defunct pages that have been ripped, yes, I said RIPPED, from our consciousness.
Like the sands through the hourglass-so goes the days of our lives

hester_prynne · Post by **hester_prynne** » February 19th, 2006, 5:01 pm

I'll always remember litkicks fondly. The creative energy there was at times, uncanny.

As for how it ended, hell, i'll be mad forever at that.
I'll be mad forever at that kind of insensitivity, no matter where it comes from.
It's innate!

H

Post by **stilltrucking** » February 19th, 2006, 5:05 pm

inate irate, gimme a merit ultra light and I will be ok

I remember those emoticons you used to use, took me a while to figure them out

I suppose it is an expense to keep the archives going, band with and server space. Maybe it is a need to economize that makes
it so hard to navigate around.

said RIPPED, from our consciousness.
Like the sands through the hourglass-so goes the days of our lives

I was about six or seven when I first saw the wizard of oz, that green witch scared the bejeesus out of me. the scene in the castle with the hour glass. It will probably be my Rosebud image. Movies, how many movie images still running through my brain. Citizen Kane. We anchored the trawler on the ocean beneath San Simeon. .....................

Post by **Dave The Dov** » February 19th, 2006, 5:13 pm

What's done is done!!!! Let's live with it!!!!
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hester_prynne · Post by **hester_prynne** » February 19th, 2006, 5:35 pm

Spoken like a true patriarch dave!!!!!

H

Post by **Dave The Dov** » February 19th, 2006, 5:45 pm

hester prynne wrote:Spoken like a true patriarch dave!!!!!

H

Nah more just me speaking my mind about the whole thing!!!!
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