"Language is a bitch with an ice pick"*

[stilltrucking]

What ever happened to Qat*

What ever happened to the counter culture?
Is there a generation gap anymore. Well we have no draft and every one has an Ipod so who needs it anyway. Freedom is not free, but you can get a good deal on it this week only. Head on down to the mall and shop till ya drop.

Desublimation. These books that I have read so long ago are bobbing back up into my conscousness.

This is a paste from
http://www4.hmc.edu:8001/humanities/bec ... arcuse.htm

One-Dimensional Man, Marcuse explored two especially insidious ways in which he believed that American capitalism had succeeded in dominating American society.
One of these ways was through the abuse of language. Language, Marcuse thought, was becoming one-dimensional and was contrived to manipulate thinking, indeed, to limit thinking. Questions are posed only in ways that permit specific ways of searching for answers; political choices are constrained to arenas in which no really thoughtful choice is empowered; and standard vocabularies (in the military, for instance) are designed to inhibit any thought about value or morality.


The second means of insidious domination was what Marcuse called "repressive desublimation," again an amalgamation of Freud and Marx. Sublimation, recall, is where instinctual energy gets deflected from its natural expression and appears, instead, in some other form of expression or satisfaction. "Desublimation," then, is a system that permits some degree of natural expression or satisfaction of instinctual energy. Desublimation is obviously so powerful that even a small dose can succeed in capturing us


We will return repetitively to satisfy ourselves even in small ways. As an example, something like Playboy magazine could be allowed to feed men a measure of unusual --- that is, formerly tabooed --- sexual satisfaction, but this would happen only by becoming a regular buying customer. When one turned to look at American society of the 60s, it was clear that sexuality was being desublimated in a variety of ways so long as people were ready to consume the right things. Thus, people were actually being repressed anew to the specific advantages of capitalist producers. Looking at American society, today, little has changed, I would say. We have become progressively more narrow (repressed) in our satisfaction of even recreation! Being convinced that we can buy it in the form of ever-more-expensive mountain clothing or recreational vehicles. Meanwhile, most people who buy mountain clothing and four-wheel-drive vehicles never go to the mountains. We have become implicitly convinced (and victimized), believing that recreation is achieved in the purchase and ownership itself. This after all is what capitalism requires -- a never ending will to consume products.

[e_dog]

what is the source of the quote in the title to this thread?

[stilltrucking]

it is a line from a poem by QAT, a guy who used to post to litkicks.

hard to navigate litkicks, i have not found the poem but I found a link about the poem, down about
near the bootom of the page


http://www.asheresque.com/BoardArchive/ ... ember.html

Qat memorial project by stilltrucking Sep 5, 2002 12:32 PM
qat memorial by jota Sep 5, 2002 2:54 PM
i will reinvent you by qat by um Sep 6, 2002 5:49 AM
brilliant by magic love Sep 6, 2002 2:47 PM
Quote by magic love Sep 6, 2002 3:04 PM
majik by mtmynd Sep 6, 2002 3:14 PM
(Heart) by Miss Love Sep 8, 2002 2:17 AM
coffee blues by stilltrucking Sep 8, 2002 7:10 AM
language is a bitch with an ice pick by stilltrucking Sep 8, 2002 7:16 AM

Best I can do for you e-dog. Good luck finding it strange navigation system levi is using, no idea why he could not leave the archives as they were, they seem to be getting weirder. Just glad he still keeps anything at all up on the net. One dimensional man, like forty years ago, what brings that back to mind. Shades of Angela Davis.

I been reading Plot Against America. He has about ten years on me, I was born in 1940, got vague memories of the War.

[e_dog]

Who's Afraid of Angela Davis?

[Artguy]

ya ...language abuse...surgical bombing...nuthin surgical about rippin the shit outa humans.............

[stilltrucking]

My despair is reaching biblical proportions.

I am falling into loathing of mankind. A new born baby his diapers still full of shit. Put a weapon in his hand. Is that all we are? Is that all there is? I love war movies I just can't get enough war movies.

Burn the fucking place down, Where the hell Is Samson when we need him. I suppose we all need hair cuts.

How many generations now have been raised with TV as their baby sitter. Pavlov has got nothing on Madison Avenue.