its weird...zevon always claimed that he was the excitable boy...i kind of get the sentement, in a weird way.
de-erotized...we were talking the other day about how de-erotized sex is probly in a confined area and violent. we talked about in the back seat of a car veres in a peacefull forest....i thought when this came up "very few people have sex in a forest these ddaysA"
Marcuse kind of dissed the hippie movement for its drug use, he said he saw the drug use as a clue to the movement wanting to see things in a new light, but the problem was that drugs also gave a temperary feeling of release from the world and therefore became more of a distraction in his mind then anything good...i remember reading that section and thinking Hunter S. thopmson said similar things, about not being able to by love, hope and change through drugs and he pretty much, i beleve thought that drugs killed the counter culture.
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I was in the second wave of the drug culture, early seventies, I was never part of any movement. Maybe because I was already over thirty and nobody trusted me. I was in college (still a sophomore) I new plenty of younger people who had access to all kinds of stuff. In one way I can say it helped me,but in other ways it hurt.
Zevon takes me back to Nashiville in the mid seventies I was living around the Vanderbilt campus. Everybody loved Zevon.
De-eroticized I don't have a good understanding of it. desublimation is another concept I guess. I get them mixied up in my mind. I am thinking of Brave New World how sex so so impersonal, purely mechanical. No Presence. I can't remember how ferlinghetti said it, every thing not prohibited is compulsory.
I think marcuse was not just thinking of sex but also work, the pleasure in work, was lost also.
Can we change the subject I think I am getting bored with sex.
How is it going? you almost got this year licked. It will be all down hill from there You and whats her face the other high school kid, Feeel Like I watched you grow up.
I been fantascizing about living in a cave over looking a beach, internet, not tv just the wind sun ocean, a small writting table some lamps a few books and an old underwood typewriter,a big black manual one. . should with
Zevon takes me back to Nashiville in the mid seventies I was living around the Vanderbilt campus. Everybody loved Zevon.
De-eroticized I don't have a good understanding of it. desublimation is another concept I guess. I get them mixied up in my mind. I am thinking of Brave New World how sex so so impersonal, purely mechanical. No Presence. I can't remember how ferlinghetti said it, every thing not prohibited is compulsory.
I think marcuse was not just thinking of sex but also work, the pleasure in work, was lost also.
Can we change the subject I think I am getting bored with sex.
How is it going? you almost got this year licked. It will be all down hill from there You and whats her face the other high school kid, Feeel Like I watched you grow up.
I been fantascizing about living in a cave over looking a beach, internet, not tv just the wind sun ocean, a small writting table some lamps a few books and an old underwood typewriter,a big black manual one. . should with
I thought about switching colleges this morning. it may be too artsy here for me and not enough intelectual...but i always run into the problem. i mean i didn't finda nyone challengeing at my high school and i went to a private school, and i made shitty grades because of it and felt rather opressed so maybe its better that i stay...i don't know if what i look for lies somewhere else you know.
i've got mid term papers, one which is just a page write up on three alternative films we've seen in alternative screen, another one for Marx and Lib about basicly whatever i want (thats the other thing about this school...a certain amount of freedom in how you express yourself academicly) and then one where i have to write about a film we watch, or actually just a peice of a film or something, that one hasn't been handed out yet. and i have a quiz in alternative film and a test in History of world cinema...historicly i get A's on those tests but he has waited and let the material pile up...we haven't had one yet this semester so its going to cover a lot of material.
I'm going to write my Marx and Lib paper on Marcuse's Essay on Liberation and about the concept of living art, its the only way to keep art from being sublimated, and how all this relates to me, i was inspired in class and wrote out an outline in a matter of minutes.
oh also i have to shot a short film, that i'm kind of scared to shoot, i've made the film too abstract and scary to do all by myself.
i've got mid term papers, one which is just a page write up on three alternative films we've seen in alternative screen, another one for Marx and Lib about basicly whatever i want (thats the other thing about this school...a certain amount of freedom in how you express yourself academicly) and then one where i have to write about a film we watch, or actually just a peice of a film or something, that one hasn't been handed out yet. and i have a quiz in alternative film and a test in History of world cinema...historicly i get A's on those tests but he has waited and let the material pile up...we haven't had one yet this semester so its going to cover a lot of material.
I'm going to write my Marx and Lib paper on Marcuse's Essay on Liberation and about the concept of living art, its the only way to keep art from being sublimated, and how all this relates to me, i was inspired in class and wrote out an outline in a matter of minutes.
oh also i have to shot a short film, that i'm kind of scared to shoot, i've made the film too abstract and scary to do all by myself.
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So you are stilll lost and I am telling you to get loster?
I got to back out of here for a while If I make one more litchicks melodramatic tear farewells surfermike is going to start farting in the wind.
Yeah as far as the back seat of a car verses on the beach as the tide washes over the lovers.
Two women here who are graduates of Litkicks High School for the performing arts.
I hope your poor old daddy is doing ok. I suppose it must be dificult for a father to think about his daughter's pubic hair.
All I can think about is kittens and those whiskers on your avatar. Dam kittens got them little needle teeth. and claws painful
This a tough year for you. I hardly ever see you post to LT. she been there done that, and recently too.
maybe it was her that was talking about movies
good luck and thanks for jaming with me.
jackie
I got to back out of here for a while If I make one more litchicks melodramatic tear farewells surfermike is going to start farting in the wind.
Yeah as far as the back seat of a car verses on the beach as the tide washes over the lovers.
Two women here who are graduates of Litkicks High School for the performing arts.
I hope your poor old daddy is doing ok. I suppose it must be dificult for a father to think about his daughter's pubic hair.
All I can think about is kittens and those whiskers on your avatar. Dam kittens got them little needle teeth. and claws painful
This a tough year for you. I hardly ever see you post to LT. she been there done that, and recently too.
maybe it was her that was talking about movies
good luck and thanks for jaming with me.
jackie
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That could be fun on the beach, maybe the most exquisite sex I can remember is in a lake up in michigan. The summer I lost by virginity in at the tender age of twenty three.
But on the beach in a rising tide might require scuba gear.
Yeah I suppose one of the most
moments in my life was when some old farmer called to tell me he had found my wallet in his corn field. I can't remember if he asked me why I was there.
I will talk sex with you anytime, but only if it is something you need to talk about because it is interfeering with your work. and school is work any way you want to slice it. it is not some little bubble isolated from the real world. It may seem that way to the professors which is why teaching is such a sweet job, but to the connon fodder, the students who are coming through in a new generation of suckers osh shit rambling KD, take care dont work to hard
Tinkerjack (the hag to beauty guy) says as follow.
Listen this is all about the heart and it reasons, we had this disagreement about which is more easily manipulated, you said reason, I disagreed I am rethinking my position and leaning your way on this. They say female brains have more gray matter and they think one way and men have more white matter in their brains and they think another way, some how or another they manage to communicate.
I sort of got attacked very sublely as attacking someone ad hominen about the abortion issue.
Here I am sort of doing the same thing. I don't have a clue KD what the sexaul Mores of young adults these days. I am probably the most immature male here. The lonely feeling of waking up next to some one you no longer wish to be with after a night of pretty good sex . So is that waht desublimation is Brave New World eroticism.
But on the beach in a rising tide might require scuba gear.
Yeah I suppose one of the most
moments in my life was when some old farmer called to tell me he had found my wallet in his corn field. I can't remember if he asked me why I was there. I will talk sex with you anytime, but only if it is something you need to talk about because it is interfeering with your work. and school is work any way you want to slice it. it is not some little bubble isolated from the real world. It may seem that way to the professors which is why teaching is such a sweet job, but to the connon fodder, the students who are coming through in a new generation of suckers osh shit rambling KD, take care dont work to hard
Tinkerjack (the hag to beauty guy) says as follow.
Listen this is all about the heart and it reasons, we had this disagreement about which is more easily manipulated, you said reason, I disagreed I am rethinking my position and leaning your way on this. They say female brains have more gray matter and they think one way and men have more white matter in their brains and they think another way, some how or another they manage to communicate.
I sort of got attacked very sublely as attacking someone ad hominen about the abortion issue.
Here I am sort of doing the same thing. I don't have a clue KD what the sexaul Mores of young adults these days. I am probably the most immature male here. The lonely feeling of waking up next to some one you no longer wish to be with after a night of pretty good sex . So is that waht desublimation is Brave New World eroticism.
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brave new world is a good example of sublimated sex, or better yet, that woody allen movie the orgasmatron....
there is something to be saaid for stream of consiousness i love reading it and i love writting it, its a feeling more then antyhing else, i may not understand what the wordes in context to eachother mean but i get the feeling and the whole i dea seems less manipulative and more real doesn't it.
what the fuck was i educated on...whatever it was i think it is in large part responsible for who i begam...my mother being a strong female in the buisness place, a no bullshit women either, my dad being enquisitive, strange and funny...then the whole juxtaposistion of going to a private high school, the leading private high school none the less and reading litkicks and kerouac and all those other deviants...being a forced deviant due to circumstances beyond my control like dyslexia and anxiety...i think its the best damn mix you can give someone. i love my anxiety, i love my dyslexia, would i be so fucking weird and free if not for them? i wonder.... i think they forced me to be on the frindge, and the fridge is free, more free then the godamn center.
watching Easy Rider, its one of those movies you can respect but you can't quote and be taken seriously, its too much a period peice.
its reasuring that you lost your virginity at 23....the way its going now, be more like 27 for me...lol. i don't know shit about sex desublimated or not, frankly the way i see it being used i don't want to know, it seems so fucked up the way its used around here.
there is something to be saaid for stream of consiousness i love reading it and i love writting it, its a feeling more then antyhing else, i may not understand what the wordes in context to eachother mean but i get the feeling and the whole i dea seems less manipulative and more real doesn't it.
what the fuck was i educated on...whatever it was i think it is in large part responsible for who i begam...my mother being a strong female in the buisness place, a no bullshit women either, my dad being enquisitive, strange and funny...then the whole juxtaposistion of going to a private high school, the leading private high school none the less and reading litkicks and kerouac and all those other deviants...being a forced deviant due to circumstances beyond my control like dyslexia and anxiety...i think its the best damn mix you can give someone. i love my anxiety, i love my dyslexia, would i be so fucking weird and free if not for them? i wonder.... i think they forced me to be on the frindge, and the fridge is free, more free then the godamn center.
watching Easy Rider, its one of those movies you can respect but you can't quote and be taken seriously, its too much a period peice.
its reasuring that you lost your virginity at 23....the way its going now, be more like 27 for me...lol. i don't know shit about sex desublimated or not, frankly the way i see it being used i don't want to know, it seems so fucked up the way its used around here.
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Twenty seven seems like a ripe old age. The age my baby sister ws really feeling prssurized. Rose leaning on her hard for a grand child. So my sister solipsized herself a husband. I got to stop posting about my sister. She has a right to privacy. Going to try and work on fictionalizing, you know change the names to protect the innocent.
Ya know I remember the years from about 14 to 23 as wondering what an orgasm was like. Bells and whistles, fireworks, heavenly music. You know what I remember best about it, the intimacy after and before, listening to the sound of her voice talking about her day, the kids, her husband, as if she had to clear her mind for sex., as if she was weaving a web around me drawing me to her.
She loved the guy in Stranger In A Strange land, when Valentine Smith (?) kissed a woman she stayed kissed. I think jamelah called it "a Presence" That woman had a way of writing about the erotic that was so suble and understated, yet I found it beautiful, some people did not like it, they wanted more hydraulic action, pneumatic deatails. and she simply wrote about a "diologue of the skin"
So how is the movie going?
two posts today.
i pissed a way a beautiful weekend, march is the best month of the year here. I hope I dont make the same mistake next weekend, sitting indoors.
I never realized that a unmarried person could be guilty of adultery too. But it takes two to tango..
How would you film an abstract orgasm, what symbolism. A wave crashing onto a beach, the lanquid foamy withdrawl?
I think our purpose is just to love one another. It has been a honor to watch you grow into maturity. What five or six years now we been chewing the cud on the internet.
You are so right in seeing the gifts in what some call disabilities. I have a lot of respect for you aly. I hope I live to be 90 just so I can see how you are doing when your reach your full powers.
I don't want to sound like a misanthrope, but I am pretty disgusted with men and their works. It is a man's world, and it sucks. Where the hell is Rosie the Riveter when we need her.
I keep adding to this, but most of all I happy for you, you have found yourself.
Is there any chance of living an un mediated life in these days?
Pavlov may have been right, if you can control everything a person hears and sees on tv, you can created true believers. My god look what hitler accomplished in the most advance culture in the twentieth century. And with the stone age techonology of radio. Now we have so much more to work with. We can control the enviorment through the media.
I am off on a roll ain't eye. sorry got to go and I am wondering if I have said it right.
go girl go
go for it
make that got dam movie
for me and the rest of us old farts.
show us,
let us see
understand'
feel
Ya know I remember the years from about 14 to 23 as wondering what an orgasm was like. Bells and whistles, fireworks, heavenly music. You know what I remember best about it, the intimacy after and before, listening to the sound of her voice talking about her day, the kids, her husband, as if she had to clear her mind for sex., as if she was weaving a web around me drawing me to her.
She loved the guy in Stranger In A Strange land, when Valentine Smith (?) kissed a woman she stayed kissed. I think jamelah called it "a Presence" That woman had a way of writing about the erotic that was so suble and understated, yet I found it beautiful, some people did not like it, they wanted more hydraulic action, pneumatic deatails. and she simply wrote about a "diologue of the skin"
So how is the movie going?
two posts today.
i pissed a way a beautiful weekend, march is the best month of the year here. I hope I dont make the same mistake next weekend, sitting indoors.
I never realized that a unmarried person could be guilty of adultery too. But it takes two to tango..
How would you film an abstract orgasm, what symbolism. A wave crashing onto a beach, the lanquid foamy withdrawl?
I think our purpose is just to love one another. It has been a honor to watch you grow into maturity. What five or six years now we been chewing the cud on the internet.
You are so right in seeing the gifts in what some call disabilities. I have a lot of respect for you aly. I hope I live to be 90 just so I can see how you are doing when your reach your full powers.
I don't want to sound like a misanthrope, but I am pretty disgusted with men and their works. It is a man's world, and it sucks. Where the hell is Rosie the Riveter when we need her.
I keep adding to this, but most of all I happy for you, you have found yourself.
Joe campbell calls it the holy grail, when you are living your own life, not some pop culture tv induced marketing researched, manipulated sublimanaly induced consumer life stylei love my anxiety, i love my dyslexia, would i be so fucking weird and free if not for them? i wonder.... i think they forced me to be on the frindge, and the fridge is free, more free then the godamn center.
Is there any chance of living an un mediated life in these days?
Pavlov may have been right, if you can control everything a person hears and sees on tv, you can created true believers. My god look what hitler accomplished in the most advance culture in the twentieth century. And with the stone age techonology of radio. Now we have so much more to work with. We can control the enviorment through the media.
I am off on a roll ain't eye. sorry got to go and I am wondering if I have said it right.go girl go
go for it
make that got dam movie
for me and the rest of us old farts.
show us,
let us see
understand'
feel
finished the film...finished the rough cut even...its sort of symbolic and sort of real, i'm toeing the abstract line and i'm not sure if it works.
i wrote a paper for my Marx and Lib class, i think its the best paper i've ever written, it talks about Marcuse's ideas on playfulness and sensibility and how you have to "Live Art" so that it can not be sublimated. i talked about the descisions i made to act weird inorder to act in negation...its probably the first time i've really sat down and thought and wrote about myself in that way.
have you ever heard of a filmmaker, Stan Brakage? he's an experimental film, he made this abstract film about sex...well not really, its actually about the feeling of love and nervousness and all those emotions that come with love...i've forgoten the name...i don't remember the name, it wasn't really showing orgasm though, but it was really good. i'll look it up latter.
i wrote a paper for my Marx and Lib class, i think its the best paper i've ever written, it talks about Marcuse's ideas on playfulness and sensibility and how you have to "Live Art" so that it can not be sublimated. i talked about the descisions i made to act weird inorder to act in negation...its probably the first time i've really sat down and thought and wrote about myself in that way.
have you ever heard of a filmmaker, Stan Brakage? he's an experimental film, he made this abstract film about sex...well not really, its actually about the feeling of love and nervousness and all those emotions that come with love...i've forgoten the name...i don't remember the name, it wasn't really showing orgasm though, but it was really good. i'll look it up latter.
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I been posting too much, taking it all away. I need to take a break here. I found some stuff on Brakhage or brakage looks interesting.
I been wondering about ad hominen arguements. Hey I am just the messenger I am not responsible for my arguements. One of the reasons I despise Heiddeggre. He was just philosphizing he should not be responsible for his thoughts. And Hanah Arendt, the Jewish intellectual who wrote Eichman in Jerusleam, was his lover for many years. Yeah the heart has its reasons.
I really need to take a break here.
I would love to read that paper, can you post it?"Live Art" so that it can not be sublimated. i talked about the descisions i made to act weird inorder to act in negation...its probably the first time i've really sat down and thought and wrote about myself in that way.
I been wondering about ad hominen arguements. Hey I am just the messenger I am not responsible for my arguements. One of the reasons I despise Heiddeggre. He was just philosphizing he should not be responsible for his thoughts. And Hanah Arendt, the Jewish intellectual who wrote Eichman in Jerusleam, was his lover for many years. Yeah the heart has its reasons.
I really need to take a break here.
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