Xenophobia in America

[knip]

cat...i get to pl;ay here for about 10 minutes every 3rd day or so these days, so no cat, i don't have enough time to read everything, just offer what i can when i can


cec, although i've been to japan, it was 22 years ago...i have no idea if they have a migrant issue...it's probably googleable though

as for china, i'm not sure they qualify as wealthy just yet...although i was there a few years ago, hong kong isn't all that representative...china is booming to be sure, but their have/have not problem is likely hundreds of times worse than the US right now...no idea where i got the number 100s...maybe just say 'lots'?

i don't know of migrant issues in china....i know that many north korean political refugees go to china, vice south korea...don't know why though...i doubt there's a migrant issue though, except for all the migrants leaving for vancouver...

[jimboloco]

A geographical vision of the flux from Mexico and Latin America is less concerned with artificial borders and more concerned with what is, the flow of trabajadores into the States.

Some of these workers at least do have contacts inside the US.

I gave a ride once to a small man from Guatemala, hitchhiking
from the orange groves in central Florida, her was going to Tampa. I stopped at a McDonalds, this was 15 years ago, offered to buy him some food, he politely declined, so I gave him 5 bucks and dropped him off in Tampa, lord knows he was small, a long way from home.

Another time in 1979, I walked for two days with a Guatemalan down hwy 101 from the Oregon-Calif border south to a small town in the redwoods. We slept under a bridge that second night, hitched to Eureka, then I walked with him to a hospital. They treated indigents in those days in Cal/ He'd been beaten up in Portland.

He was a total gent.

These are real people.

[jimboloco]

Why did Ma-Tsu kill the cat?

oh, give me a break

My Mexicano amigo Gil(bertoloco), when I aksed him about it, he said that it was just the Mexicanos returning to their former domain. The return of Zorro.

The Sonoran Desert awakeningz.
photorevised and surmised from the original here below,
http://www.bergoiata.org/fe/deserts/des ... valley.jpg
It's true. Tuscon, Arizona is in Northern Mexico, on the frontier.
Due north of Hermosillo, Sonorous deserts, canyonz, and sorcererz.
Viva Mexico!
Viva Guatemala.
Bienvenidos!

[mtmynd]

Hey, Jimbo - According to some the areas of (roughly) Texas, New Mexico, Airizona, California, Utah were (and still are to some) the original lands of the Aztec Empire. I've heard the Aztecan calendar has pointed out that these current times are the times for the people's of the Aztec Empire, (Aztecans or Mejicas) to assert themselves and become part of the world, so to speak. I don't think there is any mention of domination, however.

Times will tell....

[stilltrucking]

I can't remember exactly but I think Mexico lost one third of its land to the United Snakes. Colorado, Utah, Texas Arizona, New Mexico, I forget what else.

Back in 1986 Texas was celebrating its Sesquicentennial. The governor at the time decided it would be nice to have the flag from the Alamo hanging at the state house during the party. So he wrote the president of Mexico asking for the flag that Santa Anna had captured and which is now in a museum in Mexico City. The president of Mexico wrote the governor back and told him, “You give us the land back and we will give you the flag.”

[jimboloco]

There's so much fear and loathing about.Mexico has elections coming up.Someday they will follow the trend up from South America.
As far as protecting our borders from illegal aliens goes,

it's a myth, please.We need protection from the regime that is haunting us today.

it has been said, take care of our own first.
wonder where these shibboleths come from?

The Iraq War has boosted oil costs tremendously.

That's cool and sounds like an economic supply-and-demand type statement. I like it.

Even so, nations have the right to determine borders and what they want to do about them. There isn't some kind of inherent right for people to come and help themselves. That's my point.

So my goodness, what an abyss of perception.
If that is true, then the only ones who have a right to Americas resources are the native Americans and the children of the slaves
who were brought here forcibly. The Eurpoean invaders and then the manifest disteny American pioneers came into this house, took it over, told the origional inhabitants to split.

I am all for a guest worker program. It would bring people in legally, give them opportunities, enable them to earn some good money, and maybe even give them some rights and protection under the law while they're here.

And now this so-called"guest worker" program is such a sham, another monstrous lie.They will be eligible for citizenship. says the bill hr 4275
or was it 4725?
in 11 years, but first they will need to provide all of their back pay
stubs and pay all their back taxes.
but they were illegal, under the table,
wetbacks in the underground stream,
they ain't got no papers
no receipts
so
if they can't do that, then they become felons and anybody who helps them, nurses,
yo el enfermero locorococo jimboloco
am saying, man, uh, is anybody who helps them will also be breaking the law.So this will be a permeating dragnet into the entire fabric of Chicano culture inside America.

they will not have legal labor rights, minimum wage and workman's comp do not apply.It is in fact, legalizing the exploitation of alien workers by subscription. We invite them into our house, then tell them they can only stay in the closet.
Lies
delusions
embassassing incoherence
more slavery.
It's better to do nothing than to pass this abhorrent legislation.

It's hypocritical to shove"democracy" down the throats of the Iraqis and then close our borders to the Mexicanz.

Zorro and the Aztecz
and all those other wetbacks
making their way back home.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? ... 03/1318256
watch the segment parade interviews with latino americanos in the streets of NYC ground zero

immigration is the civil rights issue of our time
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? ... 04/1419254

[stilltrucking]

The Iraq War has boosted oil costs tremendously.

Do you remember the secrete meeting of the energy barons early in 2001. Dick Cheney and the boys, including Kenny Boy Lay from Enron. I keep hoping that someone will leak some memos from it. So far nothing.
Nothing but good news. Good news for them.


Published on Friday, May 2, 2003 by the Guardian/UK
War Propels Exxon Profits to Record $7 Billion
by Terry Macalister

ExxonMobil, the world's biggest privately owned oil group and a target of street protesters, celebrated May Day by reporting the largest quarterly corporate profits in history at $7.04bn (£4.4bn).

And two years later it is better than ever


High Oil Prices Help Boost Exxon Profits
Monday January 30, 2006 10:00 pm ET
By Steve Quinn, AP Business Writer

Exxon Mobil Posts Record Profits of $10.71B for 4Q and $36.13B for 2005

Exxon Passes GE to Become World's Biggest Company (Update1)
Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Exxon Mobil Corp. overtook General Electric Co. as the world's biggest company by market value, underscoring the emergence of energy stocks as leaders amid surging oil prices.
Exxon Mobil, the largest publicly traded oil producer, was valued at $385.8 billion as of 2:30 p.m. in New York, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The figure surpassed the $378.59 billion value of GE, whose 11 units include financial services, health care and the NBC television network.

I don’t know if you are familiar with MTBE’s Horrible stuff. It is in drinking water all over the country.

Congressional Plan to Shield Polluters From Cleanup Costs Will Benefit A Handful of Texas Oil Refiners
Burden for Tap Water Decontamination Will Shift To Consumers, Water Suppliers in 25 States — including ethanol-producing states


WASHINGTON — Millions of consumers and their water utilities in 25 states will be forced to pay billions of dollars to remove a toxic, foul-smelling gasoline additive from drinking water under a plan to prohibit water pollution lawsuits against oil and chemical companies.


This is all God's work jimboloco. THis is the fruits of christianity as practiced by the Christian Zionist Jihadists. Where are the sane clergy. During the civil rights era it was the churches that were in the forefront of the struggle. Where are they now? The mainstream non Televangelist churches. The preachers who are supposed to fight the good fight.

If you are are so smart why ain't you rich. Jesus wants you to be rich. We are the most hated country in the world. No wonder we hate ourselves.

When a peso is worth a hundred dollars things will change.

[jimboloco]

I am not rich because I crossed the Man.
then i got cross about being crossed
double and triple-crossed
i am stillcross, man

(because of massive oil needs for the iraq war)
since the price of oil has skyrocketed up to 50 bucks a barrell,
in venezuela now they have huge oil reserves of a heavier crude
before it was not profitable to refine it, but now, refining this heavy crude is extremely profitable. venezuela is steadily working to build an infrastructure there that has the commonwealth of its citizens to benefit. also they are channelling monies to support left wing candidates in peru and someday mexico. venezuela has given billions of dollars to its neighbors for infrastructure developments. and now, lo and behold, suddenly venezuela had the world's largest oil supply.


what's the problem?
no different than the imf, the cia, etc.
same game
different team
exxon sucks
citgo rocks.

yes we love our borders
but have contingent plans
war plans
for iran
and venezuela
take it to the limit
shoot the moon
the beast has an ulcer in its belly
alive in the belly of the beast,

with the bitter taste that nothing was really resolved, that we are witnessing an obscene travesty of the ethical core of family........

[stilltrucking]

What is next? After Bush. After the permanent Republican Party Majority. Sooner or later this madness got to pass. The guy who wrote this article is hoping for 100-dollar barrel oil. He thinks that is the only thing that will make Joe six-pack NASCAR dad born in the USA rugged individualist turn green. On an unrelated note Canada may have more oil than Venezuela. But when they are done extracting it water may be a 100 bucks a barrel.

Canada's Oil Reserves 2nd Only To Saudi Arabia
The US government said Thursday Canada holds the world's second-largest oil
reserves, taking into account Alberta oil sands previously considered too ...

www.rense.com/general37/petrol.htm

Caterpillar May Get $5 Billion in Sales from Oil-Sand Projects
Bloomberg - 13 hours ago
Syncrude Canada Ltd., Suncor Energy Inc. and other Canadian oil-sands miners will need to add ... and graders by 2013 to unlock Alberta's reserves, according to ...

http://news.google.com/news?q=canada+oi ... n&oi=newsr




America's New Grip on "Reality
Source: NY Times
[Mar 22, 2006]


One of the most important laws of political debate is this: To name something is to own it. If you can name something, get that name to stick and therefore define how people think about an issue, your opponents don't stand a chance. One of the most pernicious things that Vice President Dick Cheney and Big Oil have done for years is to define "realism" when it comes to U.S. energy policy - and therefore they have owned the debate. If you listen to them, they always offer this patronizing, pat-you-on-the-head view about alternative energy - hybrids, wind, solar, ethanol - which goes like this: "Yes, yes, those are all very cute and virtuous, but not realistic. Real men know that oil and fossil fuels are going to dominate our energy usage for a long time, so get used to it." Well, here's what's encouraging today. There is a split emerging among conservatives on this issue. Not all conservatives are in the pocket of Big Oil. Many evangelicals, led by people like Gary Bauer, are going green - both because they believe that we need to be better stewards of God's green earth and because they don't like being dependent for energy on countries that nurse a deep hostility toward the United States. One of the best speeches I've ever read about the necessity of breaking America's oil addiction now, and redefining "realism," was delivered by Senator Richard Lugar, the Republican who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, at the Brookings Institution on March 13. Drop what you are doing and read it at www.brookings.edu. Mr. Lugar states: "Vice President Cheney, who oversaw Bush administration energy policy, stated on April 30, 2001, ... 'Years down the road, alternative fuels may become a great deal more plentiful than they are today. But we are not yet in any position to stake our economy and our way of life on that possibility. For now, we must take the facts as they are. Whatever our hopes for developing alternative sources and for conserving energy - and that's part of our plan - the reality is that fossil fuels provide virtually 100 percent of our transportation needs and an overwhelming share of our electricity requirements. For years down the road, this will continue to be true.' " Mr. Lugar then says: "For decades, the energy debate in this country has pitted so-called pro-oil realists against idealistic advocates of alternative energy. The pro-oil commentators have attempted to discredit alternatives by saying they make up a tiny share of energy consumed and that dependence on oil is a choice of the marketplace. "They assert that our government can and should do little to change this. They have implied that those who have bemoaned oil dependency do not understand that every energy alternative comes with its own problems and limitations." While acknowledging that the oil alternatives still require a huge amount of work in order to achieve the necessary scale, Mr. Lugar insists that with a big strategic push we can, and must, get there: "My message is that the balance of realism has passed from those who argue on behalf of oil and a laissez-faire energy policy that relies on market evolution, to those who recognize that in the absence of a major reorientation in the way we get our energy, life in America is going to be much more difficult in the coming decades. ... No one who is honestly assessing the decline of American leverage around the world due to our energy dependence can fail to see that energy is the albatross of U.S. national security. "We have entered a different energy era that requires a much different response than in past decades. What is needed is an urgent national campaign led by a succession of presidents and Congresses who will ensure that American ingenuity and resources are fully committed to this problem." Dick Cheney regularly dismisses liberals for having a "pre-9/11" mind-set, as opposed to tough guys like him, who have a "post-9/11" mind-set. Hogwash! When it comes to energy, there is no one more pre-9/11, no one more stuck in keeping America addicted to foreign oil, than Dick Cheney. A deep pessimist, Mr. Cheney has an utterly impoverished view of what American technologists can do when asked to do the impossible and an utterly impoverished view of what the American people would do - post-9/11 - if summoned to the great national cause of energy independence. While I would push for even tougher steps than Mr. Lugar, I draw great hope from seeing that smart conservatives like him are no longer willing to let Dick Cheney and Big Oil tell them what is "realistic" when it comes to America's energy future. yes indeed.

http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section ... wsid=11419

[stilltrucking]

how does that follow from immigration?

e-dog my appology for the sherlock no shit comment.

I think everything is fine here in texas. I dont see no problem with immigration. All I see is families seperated by a river. Now we maybe racist, I seem to remember something about a black man having his throat slit and dragged behind a pick up truck for a couple miles down a dirt road until there was not much left that looked like a human being. But that only happens once in a while.

You say the democracy is a sham here and I agree. but I have a hard time thinking of a country where it is not. I think this immigration issue is a sham. I think it is to distract us from the war on Iraq. It gives the presidunce a chance to look important and presidential Next week there will be another burning issue we must focus on.

[e_dog]

The USA owes reparations to Mexico for the wars that stole their land to form those wastelands of sprawl called the Southwestern states.

In lieu of payment, let the reparations come in the form of open borders. Let the peoples of the US and Mexico be as one, in work, play and intercourse.

just imagine all the admiring Americans chanting the following at rallies and conventions:

!Viva el presidente Bush, el dictador mas grande del mundo! !El dictador mas fuerte y intelligente en los estados unidos! !El presidente y el govierno estan traer la violenza a todo el mundo! !Muchas gracias el dictador! !Muchas gracias, Jorge Bush! !Jorge Bush, Jorge Bush!

Warms the heart.

[jimboloco]

New electioncs coming in Peru with another populist candidate, wants to nationalise the mining companies, extract reparations,concessions from american owned companies,, wants tpo stopo the anti-coca spraying etc.....


by the way, there were a number of anti-immigration bills offered in the House, including the House version od theSenate's McCain -Kennedy bill, as well as another one put forth by the Congressional Black Caucus, called the Save America Immigration Bill, which would yes give amnesty, unqualified, to these so-called "illegal" peoples, get them above-board and have them pay taxes, then use those specific collected taxes to help pay for education and training for the unemployedAmerican citizens.....of course, it never saw the light of day.

[jimboloco]

I'm for HR 4437

it got the axe

[stilltrucking]

The situation here is so decadent. I am hoping for a bloodless velvet cultural kind of revolution here. But I still think we ought to put a way a little gas for those NasCar races that SooZen loves.

[jimboloco]

In hospital last week, had a lady from Dominican Republic room 952 a grandmother who did not speak English and next room over 953 an old white guy sick and ranting about how when they come to America they should have to learn English .....glad she couldn't under stand him, I couldn't hardly stand him either.

We could have an ethanol derby!