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DaVinci Code -- a preview

Post by e_dog » May 18th, 2006, 11:58 pm

or, A Review of the Previews



Now, I haven't actually seen the DaVinci Code. or read it, i mean who the heck has time to read pop novels? or to watch Ron Howard movies? Or Tom Hanks movies -- Tom Hanks hasn't been in a good movie since, like, "Joe Versus the Volcano."

But the previews of it look pretty cool. Especially, this one visual effect that I have been unable to figure out what it is -- but there is a shot that seems to be one of those 3-D moving-perspective-on-a-frozen-scene (you know, like that shit they did over and over in the Matrix saga where some dude's in the air in a karate kick and the frame freezes and then the point of view swings around abruptly, well anyway) where the object around which the perspective is moving is like, spots of glare from illumination. (Okay, apologies to those who have read thus far -- my technical vocabularies regarding cinematic techniques and optical phenomena is lacking here, it would be useful to have at ones disposal the right words to use here.) In other words, unless these are some stange particles that have a meaning in the story, they have used special effects to reify what is an ordinary optical illusion or photographic defect into an object of spectacle. there is something telling in this, it is like the hyperreal manifestation of the fetishization of multimediatized (religious) culture. Yes. Indeed.

What if Jesus did not sleep with the whore Mary Magdelena? What if, instead, it really was John in that painting of the Last Supper, as the orthodoxy says -- only Jesus was sleeping with him? Catholic Church ought to settle with the Dan Brown theory as a compromise before the who business gets crazy.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2006, 2:34 am

I liked the book. It took me about two hours to read. I don't think I will see the movie. I hear it takes longer to watch the movie than to read the book. Matrix maybe the most boring movie I have ever seen. But I am very old and probably did not get it.

So where did you hear that Mary Magdelena was a whore? Could you please give me a source on that? Is that in the New Testament somewhere?

Paste from The BBC website.

Powerful as this image may be, it is not the story of Mary Magdalene. Mary Magdalene is mentioned in each of the four gospels in the New Testament, but not once does it mention that she was a prostitute or a sinner. At some point Mary Magdalene became confused with two other women in the Bible: Mary, the sister of Martha and the unnamed sinner from Luke's gospel (7:36-50) both of whom wash Jesus' feet with their hair. In the 6th Century, Pope Gregory the Great made this assumption official by declaring in a sermon that these three characters were actually the same person: Mary Magdalene, Repentant Saint. The Catholic Church did later declare that Mary Magdalene was not the penitent sinner, but this was not until 1969. After several centuries, the reputation still lingers.
So who was Mary Magdalene?
Although we know something about Jewish society in ancient Palestine, 2,000 years ago, we know very little about Mary herself. The Bible provides no personal details of her age, status or family.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... mary.shtml

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Post by firsty » May 19th, 2006, 10:03 am

st, you're right about the myth of mm as whore. it's become part of the lore, but it's probably incorrect. it's more likely that mm was either one of the more important apostles, or that her presence in bible stories is a composite character.

it wouldnt surprise me if i went back in time to find out that jesus was sleeping with either some of his male apostles or some female apostle or friend. who gives a crap. for me, as a catholic, it doesnt make any difference what christ's personal life was or wasnt like. it wouldnt change his message, and i'm not quite sure how it changes the religious aspect of anything either, except that it would spin the heads of a lot of very arrogant and closedminded people.
and knowing i'm so eager to fight cant make letting me in any easier.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2006, 12:08 pm

I wish I could be a Catholic, I think it would be a comfort. (no sarcasm intended). I wish I could be a Hindu, I wish I could be a Quaker again. I had no wish to be a Jew. Just an accident of birth, my mother’s mitochondrial DNA.
I grew up on the fringes of Little Italy in Baltimore; I had to walk by St Leo’s church on my way to school… This was in the nineteen forties those nuns wore the big black uniforms (habits?) only their faces showing. I cannot tell you how much I feared them. I crossed the street when I saw them coming. My head was full of peasant Jewish superstitions from the old country. I have not read any good reviews of the movie yet.
I got a head full of special effects. I am waiting for Industrial Light and Magic to start doing the the news from Iraq any day now.

I like the plot of the Matrix, I mean it is a great story but I get bored with fight scenes pretty quick.


Jesus is still my highway hero, but that bit about cursing the fig tree is a puzzlement to me. I been trying to learn something about the mighty smighty G d of my mothers before me. I picked up a book called Judaism 101, the author makes a point about the fig tree showimg Jesus as less than perfect.

I never met a fig tree I did not love.

sorry for the ramble e-dog. I just love to ramble. If I was born a woman I would be a Rambling Rose.

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Post by Arcadia » May 19th, 2006, 1:17 pm

I read the book that a friend lent me last summer. I was doing a marketing reaserch. I tried the same some years ago with no success with Harry Potter.
It's veeery obvious as a police novel but somehow it made me want to visit the Louvre (well, maybe I had already this idea in my mind before that, to be sincere).
I worked some years ago in a cerealera for two months for Opus Dei people and really Silas and the bishop are a caricaturesque version of them. They are not so naive.
So, I'll see the film if someone buy me the ticket and I don't have nothing better to do or in ten or more years some sunday afternoon in air channels.

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Post by e_dog » May 19th, 2006, 3:28 pm

st,

it's just a rumour i heard. no evidence, textual or otherwise. i retract the statement and its implications. i'm sure M.M. was a very respectable lady, she must have been, to be able to seduce Jesus.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2006, 5:51 pm

I agree totaly with firsty, no bodies business but your own

Retract?

I wasn't really thinking about argueing, I stumbled on that factoid when I surfed to an online copy of My Mother Myself. Everyday, I feel like I just fell out of a crack in the world.

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I see the crack in the world
My body thinks it, sees the gaping crack in the world
My body does it for me to see
Blood flowing through the body crack
Body, send your rivers to the moon
Body twists me to the source of the moon
It turns me under a wave
It sets up the structure to make a baby, then tears
it down again
Architecture of womb-body haunting me
Someone is always watching the ancient flow
It doubles up my mind
Ovum not fertilized
I see the crack in the world
Thoughts intersect in the body
He must not keep me down
Let me go my way alone tonight
No man to touch me
A slash in me, I see the slash in the world tonight
It keeps me whole, but divides me now

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Oh maybe you miss my point, no need to retract,

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dorothy parker could.

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Post by bohonato » May 23rd, 2006, 9:54 pm

I went to see The Da Vinci Code on Sunday. It was a pretty good movie, though there were, of course, differences than the book. And I pictured all the characters differently than the actors they had. Oh well.

But the most amazing thing was not the movie, but the protesters outside. Yes, and they had signs like:

"I reject the Da Vinci Code"

and

"Honk against Blasphemy!"

Not to mention the creepy priest-esque guy (he had black robes on) with the rosary. I doubt any of them read the book or watched the movie.

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Post by Arcadia » May 24th, 2006, 12:53 pm

well, yesterday I had the pseudo/class (I'm a friend of the kid) about hispanoamericana literature and we talked about Renaissance, the Barroco in America and we ended talking about the Da Vinci Code...

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Post by surfermike » May 24th, 2006, 7:01 pm

I dug the movie. Then again I like most films that can keep my
interest. The controversy of this film (book) is of little interest
to me. I just enjoyed it like any other murder mystery. There's
some real creepy shit. Like, when the Albaino monk chains his one
leg with a nail belt. Then, when he pulled it off.. EEeeeUUuuuu.
I grew up an untormented Catholic. Church was just something we
did on Sunday morning. Like High School football on Friday night.
Our parish priest was a roaring drunk, who usually snored during the most juicy parts of my confession. What's not to like.
Tom Hanks had neat hair, and he looked fit. Thumbs up.
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Post by e_dog » May 25th, 2006, 4:44 pm

i think we need more protestors outside movies. especially crappy hollywood movies. especially crappy Tom Hanks movies, i.e. Tom Hanks movies.
I don't think 'Therefore, I am.' Therefore, I am.

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Post by bohonato » May 25th, 2006, 9:36 pm

I do believe they should be more concerned with The Omen. Not only is it about the Anti-Christ (it comes out 06.06.06 !), but also one more in the trend of remaking bad horror movies (The Hills Have Eyes, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc.).

I heard they're remaking The Birds. That one pisses me off. You shouldn't fuck with Alfred Hitchcock.

Tom Hanks is the least of my worries.

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Post by e_dog » May 27th, 2006, 9:23 pm

Oh, but they've already remade The Birds. In its new editions they re-titled it "Jaws," then "Aliens," then (in Congress) "the immigration crisis."
I don't think 'Therefore, I am.' Therefore, I am.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 27th, 2006, 10:12 pm

That is funny,

I needed a laugh

Well more like a chuckle

thanks

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