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Post by **Arcadia** » July 25th, 2006, 1:15 pm

"we (!!) will prevail, they not" said Rice. What a synthesis.

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultim ... 07-25.html

Post by **e_dog** » July 25th, 2006, 2:05 pm

Condi's imperial caution (we're making a new Middle East, etc.) seems almost . . . Presidential.

President Rice 2008?

(w/ VP Cheney?)

Post by **jimboloco** » July 25th, 2006, 2:51 pm

I bet she goes home to California and does something there, like run for senate, but hey, has she ever held elected office? I think she was on the board of Standard Oil, so maybe she wants to get back into the cash flow, who knows. What a compelling persona she is, and scary. The Israelis dig her, according to CNN. I got no problemos with digging Israel, I dig Israel, but I also like the Lebanese, and wonder what will become of the American university. in Beirut.

Las Paginas, the pages, what great notes to study in Spanish, nice to see from America del sur,

the vision of a new middle east, while tempting, is possibly naive.
i am at work today, taking a quick break. off on thurssday again, will follow.

Those fighter pilots are young, some of them just kids. . They walk with the shades down on their visors, look like 2 legged hornets.

may, 1970

Post by **Arcadia** » July 26th, 2006, 7:01 pm

seven times seven
ten times...

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultim ... 07-26.html

Post by **stilltrucking** » July 27th, 2006, 9:23 am

I hate this thread
Singlemalt it is a heartache for me
To see those American Jews sitting at the airport getting ready to board a plane to Israel. They look like super bowl fans to me. All dressed up in their favorite team's colors. This latest incident when Israel taught those shit bag UN observer's a thing or too. Just like they taught those shit bag americans a thing or two back in 1967. So are you a Canadian or what?

Ramble ramble
In 1967 it was a United States "listening ship"

Now it is a UN observation post. Accidently hit by a laser guided bomb. Bad laser, crooked laser, it was just a trick of the light. I wonder what they did not wish to have observed. In 1967 it was the alledged slaughter of Egyption POW's. I have lost faith with democratic governments. Israel is just another governemnt to me. Not home to a stiff necked people and no one else. One of the main if not only obstacles to a peace full settlement to this blood feud between The McJews and THe Hatefields (see ref mcCoy/hatfield feud in WVA in the last century.)

Resolution 194 settled the right of return for Palestine and Israel. The Arab oligarchs rejected it because they were sure G*D was on their side and they would prevail. I suppose now it is too late for Israel to turn the other cheek, swallow their pride and give up the idea of a democratic state founded on blood ties.

Post by **singlemalt** » July 27th, 2006, 10:04 am

trucking --

all i did was say "payback's a bitch." you can apply this quote to hezbollah -- as i did, and the quote can now certainnly be applicable to israel, as they seem to have underestimated hezbollah. the quote is now equally applicable.

and, for the last time, i am not knip (in fact i disagree with most of what he posts). i am not jim vinny. i have used the same username "singlemalt" since they day i began posting here. i was singlemalt at litkicks when i started posting there years ago. i have never used any other name here or at litkicks.

i will, however, shoot off an email to vinny and let him know that he is still in the thoughts of some studio-eighters.

Post by **stilltrucking** » July 27th, 2006, 10:49 am

ten four it is good to hear from jv
I appreciate the modulation please excuse/pardon I appologize for geezer confusion.

Not payback a bitch tripping my trigger
my holy water brother singlemalt
I been drinking more these days and enjoying it more myself. I was pretty drunk most of last week. Sober as a judge this week.

No the phrase that punched my ticket was "shit bag" what ever. Knip would never have said that. Not his style. Fu8ck racism what ever. Payback for that is good medicine for clearing that rot out of your gut.

Post by **jimboloco** » July 27th, 2006, 10:49 am

singlemAlt
kudos to you, compadre!
i have an interesting listen for youall
heard it on "fresh aire" this manyana
an objective history of Hezbollah and its ties to Syria and Iranand resulting political implications,
Fresh Air from WHYY, July 26, 2006 · Professor Daniel Byman talks about new book, Deadly Connections: States That Sponsor Terrorism. He explores the symbiotic relationship between terrorist organizations and their state sponsors. Byman is associate professor in Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service and director of Georgetown's Security Studies Program and Center for Peace and Security Studies.

Post by **stilltrucking** » July 27th, 2006, 10:52 am

f*ck history, those who remember are doomed to repeat it. Pardon my Masada complex.

Post by **jimboloco** » July 27th, 2006, 10:58 am

exactly
which is what my beef is about
there is no military solutin to this mess on either side
and from the Israelis' side,
they should know that this expanded air barrage will not get them peace,
but as they say,
they gotta keep doing it until the oy vey, they get sick of it.

before too long, the situation will become untenable.
it is a perpetual war.

If the Israelis would use their brains
shit we got this massiive military-industrial complex
and shit fer brains

stupid tacticians.
know your enemy.
and know them intimately.

Post by **firsty** » July 27th, 2006, 11:20 am

i'm back to thinking we should just bomb the whole cradle of civilization back to the stone age. they all want to kill one another. killing everyone there would make everyone happy. and we could restart our own cradle of civilization. maybe thats where i could start my own country that i'd been talking about. a fertile crescent, some kickass seashores, we'd hold back the oil in order to force new fuel use, and the kids would have a sandbox.

Post by **the flaming ace** » July 27th, 2006, 11:24 am

ah the aryian hordes swept down the fertile indus river valley
the visionary peaceful civilization was swept away
pre- gita

Post by **stilltrucking** » July 27th, 2006, 11:29 am

If the Israelis would use their brains
shit we got this massiive military-industrial complex
and shit fer brains

stupid tacticians.
know your enemy.
and know them intimately.

Exactly
That is what I was trying to say when I mentioned Milton Eisenhower and the speech he wrote for his brother about the military industrial complex.

All these conspiracy theories, truth is stranger than fiction.

I think Norbert Weiner got it right when he wrote, "When we arm ourselves we arm our enemies" The Human Use of Human Beings, 1950 something.

Israel and Palestine could work it out. Germany needs to step in for uncle Sam, I want an International Military Force commanded by a German General. THe US has no credability, we need to support our troops and bring them home.

Payback will probably be a bitch
Oh well
Play another one for us Condi

Post by **jimboloco** » July 27th, 2006, 11:32 am

a terntative translation of Arcadia's first pagina post
http://www.freetranslation.com/
"We will prevail, they not" The secretary of American State, Condoleezza Rice, met today with the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, and with the Palestinian president, Mahmud Abbas, and said that is time of an of new Middle East" without violence, in the framework of a tour by the crisis in the Lebanon.

Is time of a new one Middle East. It is time to tell those that do not want a Middle East different that we will prevail, they not", said Rice in Jerusalem, before entering to a meeting with Olmert. The premier Israeli received hot to Rice, but reaffirmed that Israel will continue with the offensive that launched in the Lebanon against Hezbollah two weeks ago, after that Islamic group killed eight soldiers Israelis and captured to other two. Likewise, it Rice reiterated that its country is opposed to an immediate ceasefire and prompts on the other hand a lasting and more extensive peace agreement, and said that does not want to return to the region in weeks or months because the "terrorist found a form more than to violate a truce". In turn, Olmert said that Israel "is specific" to continue their offensive against Hezbollah, al time that admitted the "humane difficulties" caused by their country in the Lebanon after two weeks of attacks that left 391 dead persons, the civil majority, a nation devastated and an economic disaster. Rice met also today with the minister of Israeli Defense, Amir Peretz, but did not do statements after its encounters in Israel. Israel received with consent the message of its allied one United States that is necessary a lasting solution in the conflict with Hezbollah and with the Palestinians. Nevertheless, the Palestinians, the Lebanon and other Arabian countries, as well as the UN and the European Union (EU), they prefer a high one the immediate fire that finish with the deaths and of place al dialogue. Hours later, the secretary of State travelled to Ramallah, West Bank, and he met with the Palestinian president, of the opponent parted Al Fatah, but not with members of the ruler movement Hamas, who he said that she Rice was not welcome. Besides of that of the Lebanon, Israel carries out another parallel offensive in the Gaza Strip since June 25 militant Palestinian they captured another Israeli soldier. More than 116 Palestinians died in that military operation. United States is an "associate in the aggression against the Lebanese and Palestinian towns and, additionally, the visit to Rice considers objective to give American orders", the spokesman said of Hamas, Sami Abu Zuhri, to the press in Gaza. "sHe Rice she is able ahorarrse its efforts, because our town is compromised with its rights and principles", added. Washington considers to Hamas, that defeated to Al Fatah in elections in January passed, a terrorist organization, and interrupted the shipment of funds to the Palestinian Authority (ANP) by the refusal of the movement to recognize to Israel.
Rice anticipates to travel ma¤ana to Rome for an international conference on the crisis in Middle East. Source: Télam

"we (!!) will prevail, they not" said Rice. What a synthesis.
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultim ... 07-25.html

will re read in Spanish and smooth out the translation.

Post by **firsty** » July 27th, 2006, 11:33 am

israel should never have been given as spoils/compensation to the jewish people. it should have been germany that was declared a jewish state.

now we're fucked.

the daily show did a great job last nite of showing that the muslims, jews and christians each believe that the holy land is theirs. we need to turn the holy land into the holy grail - something that doesnt exist.

or convince the ethiopians to bring the ark into play. just set that thing on the battlefield and then we'll really know who's got God on his side.

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