hezbollah just found out. . .

[the flaming ace]

or convince the ethiopians to bring the ark into play. just set that thing on the battlefield and then we'll really know who's got God on his side.

http://www.nurses-of-israel.org/

[firsty]

do the nurses have the ark? are they using it for good not evil?

[the flaming ace]

they're all stoned, man

[firsty]

everybody must get stoned. to know how it feels. to be out on your own with no direction home, like mona lisa with the highway blues, like the buffalo soldiers, and i'm gonna be your friend, so no cry.

[jimboloco]

Hezbollah does not care how many Lebanese civilians are killed, they become martyrs, and it is a rabid hate-filled entity with no sane basis for existence.

Well, here is some of my own brainwashing, drippings, a drop of prejudice. I gotta say, that Hezbollah is very real and understanding it a bit would seem to be the hopeful thing to do, who knows, it could be a worst case scenario, but the present course ain't far from that, so I'd reccomend we all go out and buy Hezbollah for Idiots, or Hezbollah for Dummies, seriously. This is an independent politico-military organization, really, a unified revolutionary front. So idiot me would have ta go off and rant sopmething like the above, so I take it back, not without some trepidationz, cause these folks are scary to me. However, I do not want anybody bombing their families and loved ones and homes. This is a terrible thing, a monstrous war crime.

Now I gotta see if somebody has wrote that duh, book.
ps now i am stoned and I'mm gonna go to th liquor store an buy some gin,
slacker stoner step-son is a comin over, mercy. Suffering shibboleths.

[Arcadia]

jimbo: I can't smooth anything because I don't know english..!! It's ok more or less, only big problems with the pronoums. And ahorrar is something like to not spend lots of money in something in order to have more money for other thing. And if you can transform the manyanas use ñ (alt 164).

hey, do you really think the ark existed??. Funny thoughts.

[jimboloco]

como accesas el enye?
puedo usar http://www.freetranslation.com/
y copiar el Ñ o ñ
estoy perezozo, (no por nombre)
mercy
what time is it in Rosario?
I think it's the same time as Florida, so we both go to our zen groups at the same time on Sunday mornings.
¡Yo estoy un estudiante malo, de veras!

meanwhile the wars are raging,
mercy.

http://americanconscience.org/worldheal ... licts.html

no i can see that rosario is to the east of florida,
not by mucho
i think you are two hours ahead of eastern standard time.
Do you have daylight savings in Argentina?
time to go to da liquor store.
i can't take th news straight,
mercy

[firsty]

payback is, indeed, a bitch. if only all those who paid out got paid back. i think, singlemalt, that THAT is the problem.

http://www.redress.btinternet.co.uk/hlowi9.htm

Thinkpiece
Countering Zionist propaganda about Hizbullah and Lebanon
By Henry Lowi*

18 July 2006

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Henry Lowi asks searching questions, the answers to which would debunk Zionist propaganda about Hizbullah. He says that misery, death and destruction will continue until the people of Palestine, Arabs and Jews, rise up to overthrow the Zionist pyromaniacs and poisoners of wells.

In the current Israel-Lebanon conflict (in which my relatives' home in Carmiel has been destroyed, and visiting Lebanese Canadians have been incinerated in South Lebanon), the propaganda war is key. Here are some quick points to remember in the propaganda war:

1. Israel says that the Lebanese government is in violation of UN resolutions that require the Lebanese government to exercise state sovereignty in southern Lebanon, and disarm the militias.

We ask:

* Since when does Israel comply with UN resolutions?
* Since when does Israel respect state sovereignty?

2. Hizbullah is denounced as a "terrorist" organization by the army that it defeated.

We ask:

* Since its founding in 1982, how many non-combatant Israeli civilians has Hizbullah killed?
* In that same period, how many non-combatant Lebanese civilians have the Israeli forces killed?

3. Hizbullah is accused of having raided into sovereign Israeli territory and attacked and killed and captured Israeli soldiers on border patrol.

We ask:

* Since its founding, how many Israeli soldiers has Hizbullah killed inside Israel?
* How many Israeli soldiers has Hizbullah killed inside Lebanon?
* How many Lebanese, captured by Israel inside Lebanon, is Israel holding?

4. Hizbullah has weapons that go beyond the traditional guerrilla arsenal, obviously supplied to it by Syria or Iran or both. At the same time, the Lebanese state has no air defences to speak of, and its armed forces play no role in defending the people of Lebanon.

We ask:

* Why shouldn't a guerrilla organization, operating in southern Lebanon, have weapons, including longer-range rockets? Is Lebanon not threatened by its southern "neighbour"?
* Aren't the Israeli forces fully armed, in fact, better armed?

5. The idea that, alongside Israel there should be a "demilitarized Palestinian state" (Geneva Agreement) or a Lebanon armed only with rifles, is an idea that goes hand-in-hand with domination and subjugation. In any war, each side seeks to disarm, dominate and subjugate the other, and each side seeks the weapons that are appropriate for that purpose.

We ask:

* So, what is Israel's complaint?
* Which states are the suppliers of Israel's arsenal? Who supplies what?

Israeli Chief of Staff Dan Halutz said that Israel is "changing the rules of the game" in Lebanon, and warned that "nothing is safe in Lebanon, as simple as that". But, everyone knows that what goes around comes around. That is why people are fleeing Haifa southward or taking cover in fortified rooms. The lives of Israeli non-combatant civilians are of no concern to Halutz. Nor are the lives of Israeli soldiers captured in battle. All are victims of Israeli militarism.

The familiar dance of death, orchestrated by the Israeli militarists and ethnic cleansers, will continue, with ebbs and flows, with ceasefires and "peace processes" and open conflagrations, with unimaginable misery, death and destruction, UNTIL the people of Palestine, Arabs and Jews, rise up to "change the rules of the game", to overthrow the Zionist pyromaniacs and poisoners of wells, and to rebuild the country on a new basis, on a basis that respects democracy and human rights and good-neighbourly relations.

All anti-war efforts in Israel, and all solidarity efforts abroad, should be directed to this goal.

* *Henry Lowi is a Jewish peace activist living in Toronto, Canada.

[firsty]

would you like to know israel's record on complying with UN resolutions?

how about the US's record on same?

[stilltrucking]

israel should never have been given as spoils/compensation to the jewish people. it should have been germany that was declared a jewish state.

Germany owes us something. So does France, England, Italy and Russia. Only Finland owes us nothing. The only country in world war two to payback uncle sam the dough re me. I grew up in the forties and I thought Uncle Sam was a real cool guy. Then I found out about world war one and the war to make the world safe for the Morgan loans. Bottom line it ain't about survival for us, it is about the money. I don't think Israel is in it for the gelt. Uncle sam's hands as bloody as Hezbollah's. If the got dam Irish can lay down their gunz why not the Jews and Arabs. They are kissing cousins for crying out loud.

Can we just plead insanity as a nation and leave the whole bit up to Europe. Put a French general in charge that will fix their dirty @$$es.

I remember another ship, it was called the St Louis, I remember those doomed Jews sailing away from death, all their bribes paid they had passports to Cuba, but got ripped off sailed up and down the coast of SA and NA could not find any port in a storm. Sailed back to Germany, and most died. Maybe it is too late for peace. If the Palestinians are granted the right of return that American Jews seem to love so much, would the Jews be a minority in Israel. I just wish Europe would take up some slack here, Uncle Sam is leading Israel down a very broad road.

[jimboloco]

I gotta go get this book at home, a reference to warriors by Rick Shields
who covered the rise of Buddhism in the west

all our ancestorz have engaged in violence
who is to blame
Hezbollah catches two Israeli soldiers
as exchange barter for priznorz held by the other side
as an initial concept, it seems absurd
but they rationalise it

and so the Israelies rationalize their side and
it is escalated
neither side is right
what then?

where is Judy Chicago when we need her?
I was at a Judy Chicago exhibit
actuallly at the Holocaust Museum here
a few years ago
she had one painting-photograph-tapestry
showing dive bombing attack planes,
nazi warplanes


I was talking with this kid reporter
up from Bradenton,
he said,
"ya gotta do what ya gotta do."

shit

[stilltrucking]

I been seeing all this stuff how Israeli lobbyists are leading the USA astray. It has crossed my mind lately how the USA is leading Israel astray. I want to be a warrior too. It is very noble to sit in a bunker and press a button that sends a missle that kills five million people at one go. Yes the thrill of hand to hand combat, the noble warrior risking gettinga hang nail when pressing that button. War is obsolete. We need a new breed of warrior. Masada will not fall again my ass.

Watching these wacko preachers like James Hagee. They love that mighty smighty Hebrew god. They want it on their side. Like fucking raiders of the lost arc. Stick with Israel right or wrong, and you can't loose. As long as we keep our precious bodily fluids pure, burn the queers, shoot the infidels. Read only good books, me and Jesus going to kick your ass if you don't straighten up and fly right.

We are enablers for Israel cause we love those military miracles. And G*d made monkeys cause he was disapointed with men.

what did singlemalt say about payback being a bitch. Who the hell is this General Jesus Christ this commander in chief coward that has gotten so brave and noble since he ducked out on Viet Nam. Call bill clinton a draft dodger? A lot like Germany in the thirties when the scum rose to the top. The sickiest of the sickiest shrouded in their noble lies. The disease called man.

[Arcadia]

it's 10 am now in Rosario and the hour here/here is...I don't know!.
I'll go today to the dojo, tomorrow I prefer wake up late and then cook.

Bayer (not the laboratory, the Patagonia tragica's author) writing about the conflict in today's pagina/12's contratapa:

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/contr ... 07-29.html

[stilltrucking]

I think I will take a walk
with a particular destination in mind
off to a good start so far.

Translating, got to go to work in half hour, finish later,

Another one of the lamentable moments of History. Perhaps only it is to reproduce that desperate phrase: "the humanity has not learned anything". The worse thing is than all want to be right and reason does not have anybody in this slaughter that is happening in the Near East. The Jews describe as anti-semites to all those that dare to censure their conduct, the mahometanos describe as "those in favor of Bush" to those who justify the policy of Israel to want to reach the solution bombing open cities. The missiles are in the air. And of course, who undergo the consequences, the town, the towns.

Sadness, grief, pesimism. The humanity has assassinated itself in continuous wars. Million victims. Everything what they constructed generations, suddenly in ruins. We do not know from where we come, but that yes we know and we learn every time to kill itself better. Some religions have been saying for centuries, other religions command to the paradise to that knows to kill and to die at the same time. In this new war there are no innocents, only the victims - it is necessary to see dolorosísimas photos of the children destroyed by the pumps -, and we could define it like a war wished by all, and I talk about the politicians of both sides. Exactly, Israel, when sending to its bombers to unload its pumps on the civil populace, pleased to them those who in the Lebanon waited for that reaction and thus to justify its missiles in Haifa. Yes, without a doubt, the Hezbolá with the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers began. But the reaction of Israel was excessive. It must have itself worried about the sagrada life of its soldiers, although they were only two, and to initiate negotiations. The change of those kidnapped by Arab prisoners. Or to make an operative one to take two Arab hostages. And to appear before United Nations and immediately to indicate that it was not going to accept plus the extorsivos kidnappings. Instead of trying the negotiations, suddenly it sent the airplanes to throw pumps to open cities. The town that suffered greatest of the racial persecutions, now throws pumps. Instead of being the example and to demonstrate the wisdom that knew to knead with the historical persecutions, it shoots the revolver and just later it asks. Two Jewish professors, deep connoisseurs of the subject, try to justify the unjustifiable thing. Professor Martin van Creveld, of the University of Jerusalem, teaches Military History. He wrote that "the present attacks of the army from Israel to exaggerated Lebanese goals are not of any way" and adds "the continuous attacks of the Palestinian terrorists are not answered with the due hardness".

That is all I got so far.

[e_dog]

the problem at the root of all this is Bush is a terrorist dictator.

until he is sent to the Hague in chains, the world will be at war, continuously, and bloodily.

is bloodily a word? 'tis now. Fuck George Bush. He is the devil incarnate. that's why he alwayz invoke Christ. reaction formation cf. Freud, Sigmund.

peace out.

word to the homeland (securitay).