peter mcwilliams

[firsty]

"the absurdity of consensual crimes in a free society"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/093158 ... 22?ie=UTF8

not something to read if you cant handle long texts. it's sort of a thick book. so i recommend that superficial "activists" and philosophical blowhards avoid trying to get thru the thing.

mcwilliams makes a pretty clear, direct and honest case for what he refers to as "consensual crimes" - those crimes without a victim. pretty much, they are all entirely unconstitutional. every law that tries to prevent these "crimes" is unconstitutional at its most basic level.

the only part of the constitution ever to try to make a consensual crime illegal was the prohibition amendment. we all know how that worked out.

anyway, good read. strongly recommended.

[e_dog]

long books aren't hard. or they can be but not usally. they're just a waste of time. basically, aside from the news, any time spent reading something other than say Marx or Nietzsche is a waste of the resource of time and energy.

[firsty]

thats brilliant.

[stilltrucking]

I don't know if I will ever read it firsty, but I think I agree

If I attend church all day Sunday
Lord I come back home and want to raise hell all day Monday
Lord it ain't nobody's business if I do
If my baby comes up to me and says I ain't got no money
I just got to reach into my pocket,
and say take all of my money honey
Ain't nobody's business if that's what I want to do
Ain't nobody's business, it just ain't nobody's business
Oh, it ain't nobody's business what I do
Ain't nobody's business if I do
If I ever get the notion to jump off into the Atlantic Ocean
It ain't nobody's business if that's what I want to do
Me and my baby we might fuss and fight
But with the Lord's help I know everything is gonna be alright
Oh and it ain't nobody's business what we do
Ain't nobody's business, it just ain't nobody's business
Oh, it ain't nobody's business what I do
Ain't nobody's business if I do

[firsty]

o come now stilltrucking, nothing is really worth reading, is it?

reading anything but neitzche and marx is a waste of time. thats seriously got to be the single most stupid thing i've ever read in my entire life.

oh. and the news. got to read the news too.

now i know where the insight comes from, edog.

[stilltrucking]

o come now stilltrucking, nothing is really worth reading, is it?

Well certainly not Marx.
Only book of Groucho's that I am a little bit familiar with is The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon.

I liked the bit about everything happens twice...

But years later I found out he got it from Hegel.

[e_dog]

firsty,

as a Groucho-Marxist i can only say that i am flattered by your attribution to me of the stupidest thing you've ever read. it takes smarts to be that stupid.

but anyway, if you read carefully, you'll notice i wrote "say" before Nietzsche and Marx, and while i didn't use proper comma punctuation, i meant, "for example." i.e. classics and including modern classics.

the point being that most of the most radical criticism applicable to our time, yet ignored by the establishment, 's already been said before and better, by our predecessors.

we live in a reactionary age. and the most telling symptom is that people cannot even conceive of a radical alternative to the corporate-constructed "consensus."

paying attention to the news is important, provided one is aware that it consists in significant degrees of propaganda and that it leaves out important stuff. granted. still, the truth leaves a residue, symptoms. critique requires material. the news is it.

obviously, blogs, documentaries, films, letters from granma, etc. etc. can be read too. but only if the party approves it. otherwise, it's all counterrevolutionary (-- i thru that in just to check on whether stilltruckin's still payin attention to this thread).