Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Wiccan: None of the Above

[judih]

a large chunk of sigh
connects the unconnected
into one incredulous loop

[Artguy]

I believe belief is a suckers game .....ask any gambler.....see the mind as it really is.........The whole idea of belief and faith in a greater deity exists in the propagation of fear....we fear what we don't know and our ultimate ignorance is in nothing..........we fear that death could be Nothing.......we can't imagine nothing.....place your self in a sound proof room completely void of light...close your eyes ..........there is still the presence of something.............even in the deepest state of meditation there is still the breath...........someone said "If there was no God we would have to invent one."

[jimboloco]

How do you mean belief? The jackal chaqplain of Pizzaro had his belief and he used it to propagate fear, and so it do today, all those bright shining young faces gone down, their boots eulogized by Bush Amerika's chaplains as well....
but faith in not so much a diety as a presence, a state of being, yeah the Taoists called it vitality, energy, spirit....a moment to moment being present to the essential nothingness of small being.



a large chunk of sigh
connects the unconnected
into one incredulous loop

Pilgrim on road
Serpent on rock
sunshine on my face

Monkey brain
encapsulates
phylogeny

Is this engaging or avoiding the issue?
What is the issue?

"que os absuelvo, grita el chacal de la cruz asesina"
It is an incredible quote and am greatful to bear witness to Neruda's "Las Agonias."

Good luck.

[stilltrucking]

I believe belief is a suckers game

I let me see your belief is that belief is a suckers game,
man I don't know nothing about logic but that seems funny to me, but funny in way that is kind of pleasing, I wonder if that was your aim. To Please.
"We aim to please and so does Louise" FS

It was that one silent hour that made it worth while, but I have not been to a meeting in years, in the past twenty years maybe 3 meetings so I don't know why I even call myself that.

here for women
there for men

kids go where they're told (or else)

drip water on em, slice off their foreskins, tell em to memorize this, say that....(or else)

religion is a one way ticket to Belonging!

That about sums it up for me

I needed to belong to something. Strange how much rig a ma role there is in human death, medical examiners legal matters and so forth, a cat dies and throw it in the dumpster but people take a lot of paper work, I would like to die a friend. If I get my druthers.

faith in not so much a diety as a presence, a state of being, yeah the Taoists called it vitality, energy, spirit....a moment to moment being present to the essential nothingness of small being.

a large hunk of sigh
not a large thumping on a bible


Judih on my front door
jimboloco got my back
I got the rocking chair


I been wrong about the new vocabulary words, I definetly need some. I miss half of what you all say. if not more

[perezoso]

The jackal chaqplain of Pizzaro had his belief and he used it to propagate fear, and so it do today, all those bright shining young faces gone down, their boots eulogized by Bush Amerika's chaplains as well....

Yes, good point. I am a bit unnerved I have to sympathize with marxists these days. Thousands of people dead and yet the right wing ( and liberal hypocrites as well) keep smiling, tv shows keep us yukkin'. toonsmiths keep singin', actors continue to thrust their ho-wood pimp dreams in our face.

A kid from around here was killed a few months ago (LA has quite a few dead) -- a marine Louie, about 20 years old, good student, nice kid, football team, wife, rah rah etc. The X-tians all made long eulogies at his funeral, local politicos went on about shit they know nothing about. He was snuffed at Fallujah with others and the yokels blame the f-n liberals. No it wasnt the libs that snuffed that boy it was Bush Inc. And yet the liberals are just as sickening. Tragedy died sometime during WWI I think,as EP yawped. And no one touches Nam or other wars, not even leftists except maybe CHomsky. Its amnesia on the part of millions.

Yr in the asshole of the world capn. But the X-tians will tell ya "this is the best of all possible worlds."

[jimboloco]

This one I can dig Pere Zozo. Now we in tune.
Xept for the spirit biz.
It is not a denial, but an approach to the barricades.

Thanks for the posts all. I grew a lot with this one, creeping Jesus, as the Doctor, HS Thompson would say.

I never made capn.....my last officer eval read, "The leiutenant is concentrating so much on disruption that his military duites are lacking."

Alas, I lost in on the raod. It was stashed in my uncle's garage and he tried to send it to me with my box es of drawings and memorabilia, circa 1981, but I'd moved suddenly without noticw, bivouacked in the New Hampshire woods against an old stone wall, visions of hooded Druids in the night surrounding me back of the wall. When I aksed him about it, I told him that I had a jar filled with marijuana seeds, and he lot very upset. So I did not tell him about my military records.

I still have my aircrew training record tho. I got 100% on my two written exams for flight instructor in cargo plane in Vietnam.
then did an emergency proceedures check ride and a full day airlift checkride. played it straight.

Once I was flying with a new Lt in country, training him as a co-pilot. I let him fly a lot. We were circling down into Ham Tan. It was a typical Vietnamese village with a nearby artillery base and runway. There was a lot of woods around there. The new Lt. (son of a general) was over the woods. I asked him to circle down over the town and he said, NO, somebody in the village might shoot at us!" I then asked him, "Well, what are we here for, then?"

It pissed him off, I could tell. His mindset was programmed. Not connecting the dots. He went on to fly C5A's massive airlift vehicles.

have been white water rafting inside the anti-academy.
eddies and spray. i se=wear I am gonna go back and re interpret E dawg and Perezozo for idiots!

[stilltrucking]

Dorenn said

I believe in worshiping each other's spirits.

This is my religion.

me too doreen
me too
my religion is Friendship
"to see that of christ in everyone" paraphrase of george fox, that crazy old quaker.

I was looking for a post for j
we were chatting
well I was ranting
about that movie zeitgeist

I was looking for a perezoso post about how St Paul hijacked christianity. when I stumbled on this post.

You know I was talking to a mutual friend of ours and he told me how shocked you were that there is no proof Jesus ever existed. Beats me, I don't know if that is true. But I never needed proof. I just thought the pudding was good enough. Now if I could just figure out who Bush is always talking about, the Jesus of Midland Texas.

Now all i got to do is find perezoso 's post about how St Paul hijacked christianity.