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etter to editor: black columnist says big Al a hypocrite

Post by jimboloco » April 15th, 2007, 8:04 pm

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/04/15/News/ ... Imus.shtml

Bill Maxwell, in his Sunday April 15th column, confuses situational ethics when he says that "Sharpton and other black critics of Imus are hypocrites. I will bet that Chris Rock could have said "nappy-headed hos" without making much of a wave, and I bet that he would have gotten big laughs from many of the same blacks who demanded Imus' unruly mop on a platter." He preceeds this remark with a qualifying gesture for some kind of professional demeanor, an astuteness that misses the mark : "Because I am a journalist, who is dedicated to freedom of speech, and because I am a former college professor, who is dedicated to academic freedom, I have no serious problem with Imus' epithet. "

Academic freedom has it's limits. You won't find any college professionals calling their students nasty insulting names, nor will academia allow for a dehumanising process between staff, faculty, and students. Spontanaity also has its limits and place.

He does not pursue this case against Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, instead, stating his offense at what black pop culture produces. This is why I am saying that Bill Maxwell is confusing situational ethics. None of these venues occupies a central media time slot with national political and media figures. If only Imus "had the rare ability to get Beltway movers and shakers and media insiders to open their veins and spill their guts, as it were," then I would be impressed, but he is not the only media talent available, and I am happy to see this abusive Iman persona non grata go his unhappy way. I want to be a part of something better.
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Post by stilltrucking » April 17th, 2007, 9:55 am

Jesus H Christz jimbo
I thought I was done with this one.

Hey stop picking on the guy, he is just some goofus sixty seven year old white guy who doesn't know better.

He should have jumped on an airplane to new jersey and meet with the college and the team to see what he could do to make ammends. instead of pandering to Sharpton.

It all comes down to the god almighty dollar. You know those girls did not call for his resignation, it was sharpton and jackson. I read a sound byte that said when he went to be on SHarpton's radio show he walked into the Lions den. I would hope he had more integrity than that, I figured the network probably told him that he had to do that to save his job. He should a could a refused. A lot of people still like him a lot, he will turn up again on some other network. I was sorry to see him go, I hope he lends on his feet. If for no other reason than those kids his charities are helping.

So what do we talk about now that we don't have Don Imus to kick around anymore?
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Post by jimboloco » April 19th, 2007, 11:30 am

no man
hhhe ain't got no class

i am serious
bless the vacuum
imus sucked

and besides, this entree is about the columnist
and his wimpy reflex response.
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Post by stilltrucking » April 19th, 2007, 4:16 pm

I would like to see him get another chance.

I am sorry he did not stand up to sharpton. Someone needed to. Now it may be to late. Christ I hope nobody makes a martyr out of him because Sharpton getting death threats.

He should appologize to the kids, but he shoud have called a spade a spade,.,, shit is that racist, sorry live radio is a bitch :wink: probably, better said as ...he should have called Sharpton a hypocrit. Lets look at what's on the end of a racial fork.

Get me got dam soap box, I feel like I am giving a stump speech.

I never heard his show jim, I heard about it when he first started with Howard Stern but schlock jocks not my sense of humor, mine runs more to to monty python. But anybody who calls Bush a war criminal can't be all bad.

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Post by jimboloco » April 20th, 2007, 7:56 am

again i am not talking about IMUS, man

kerizt
you never saw the show but you're sad to see him go?

I am talking about the firgging column written in the paper by a black journalist who dissed on Sharpton and was inconsistant and not at all persuasive in his pseudo-analysis, lending credence to the right-wing white guys babble about what a race baiter Sharpton is, absurd.

So don't comment on this further unless you will read the frigging post first and try to respond to it
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it's all about manners, man

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Post by stilltrucking » April 21st, 2007, 5:04 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06SoECIp1U

I am saying Imus is a or was a hyporcite
Becasue he went sucking up to another maybe ever bigger hyprocrite
Sharpton

ANd I ain seen vietnam either jimbo
but I believe

I have never heard imus show, I kind of tuned him out back in the eighties I think when he was still with whats his face, howard stern. It was all about gotcha power trips, get people to come on and make fools of them selves. I find I hardly ever need anyone to do that for me.
So even though I have not seen his show, I have cyber friends who have, and I cut him slack because of that, I figure he can't be all bad if mt and sz like him. Yeah I would like him to get another shot. And anyone that calls bush a war criminal on the public airways is in my opinion speaking truth to power and should be heard

Carnegie caused so much suffering earning all that money, and he built public libraries all across the country to make ammends. Maybe he did not build enough to atone. But some of the happiest days of my childhood were spent in a library. So Imus doing alot of good with his money, something to think about. But does the good outweigh the bad. Does it make a difference.
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Post by jimboloco » April 21st, 2007, 10:14 am

if you think that Sharpton os a hypocrite
then we are in trouble

what is your problem with big Al?
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Post by stilltrucking » April 21st, 2007, 10:58 am

Sharpton is not a hypocrit?

Now that is news.

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Post by jimboloco » April 21st, 2007, 2:51 pm

Now you are dissing on a fine gentleman

I see where you are on this issue, because you ridicule Sharpton without reason, only your own slumbering latent prejudice.

First they said it was a crime (to speak out against racial abuse)
Then they ridiculed them (speaking out against racial abuse)
then it became the norm ( speaking out against racial abuse)

I see where you are.
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Post by stilltrucking » April 21st, 2007, 5:45 pm

I have never met Sharpton
I have never heard Imus
What the hell do I know
I got my own hypocrisy to out grow.

I got my own hypocrisy to deal with

Interesting factoid, I was trashing around in Dante’s inferno and discovered that hypocrites are in the eight circle and murderers are only in circle seven.

Al Sharpton is probably a fine upstanding gentleman. What do I know about him?

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Post by e_dog » April 21st, 2007, 8:07 pm

The logic of this argument:

X is a hypocrite
because I say that he would say such and such
rather that such and such.

QED.


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Post by jimboloco » April 21st, 2007, 9:20 pm

well, if you are gonna construct a model
then fill in the gaps with something meaningful

who said that "he" would say what"
who is "he"?

what is it "he" is supposed to have said

has nothing to do with the original post
which I am pulling as this splattering is absurd
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Post by e_dog » April 23rd, 2007, 4:13 am

now its all meaningless thread when you take away the lynchpin orig. post.

the author of some let. to the ed. sed that Sharpton's a hypo. b/c he (the author) thinks he (Shapt.) would say such' n-such.

that's all. right byme.
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Post by jimboloco » May 1st, 2007, 2:49 am

it was supposed to be a critique of the columnist's article
instead it became a ramble about why are we talking about imus
etc
not where i wanted to go
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Post by stilltrucking » May 2nd, 2007, 1:58 am

I will always hold neurotic college professors dear to my heart. He put an end to my twelve year career as a sophomore pre-med student ...

Somebody said?
Academic freedom has it's limits. You won't find any college professionals calling their students nasty insulting names, nor will academia allow for a dehumanising process between staff, faculty, and students. Spontanaity also has its limits and place.
Geez jim I suppose college has changed in the past thirty five years.

Cause I sat in cultural anthropology class where the "professor" called us all niggers for sitting there taking notes. Trying to learn something? I probably should have just sat there, but I was more neurotic than he was, I walked out.

hell
this is more ramble about the ramble
Accademic freedom is serious stuff
what else we fighting for
freedom of speech
money talks
noble truths walk

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