Troops blocked from access to myspace, youtube etc...

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Troops blocked from access to myspace, youtube etc...

Post by stilltrucking » May 18th, 2007, 9:13 pm

Forced Web-Site Blocking
By Sam Diaz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 18, 2007; Page D01

The Defense Department, which announced Monday that it was blocking access on its networks to such popular Web sites as MySpace and YouTube, put a technology official under the spotlight to explain why bandwidth -- the available space on a computer network for transferring data -- is something that the military cannot afford to compromise...


One reporter wanted to know if it was hypocritical of the Defense Department to block access to Web sites it uses to recruit troops and to which it uploads its own videos of soldiers in Iraq....

Most of the Web sites blocked by the Defense Department offer streaming music and video, as well as photo-sharing capabilities largely used to communicate with relatives and friends. They have grown in popularity at a time when troops are facing extended tours of duty and support for the war is fading.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... d=sec-tech

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Post by e_dog » May 18th, 2007, 10:26 pm

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THE WORLD BOUT IT. THIS IS THA ARMEE!

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Post by eyelidlessness » May 19th, 2007, 6:15 am

Poor murderers.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2007, 7:12 am

Speaking of murder...
We don't want the troops to see this on youtube.

The Violence Within

Can you hear those voices? I hear them too. But then I am "naked to the lidless eye"

What else has been blocked? The article did not mention that. Do you tink democracy.org may also be blocked?

All these websites you all go to find the truth.

I think it said 18 sites have been blocked.

Except the recruiters still have access to youtube

But we don't want the troops to see this

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Post by Doreen Peri » May 19th, 2007, 10:46 am

OK well in my opinion, I don't understand the big deal.

I mean, the Defense Department is the employer of the troops. They can block anything they want.

Many employers block many websites from their company's servers.

I know lots of people who can't listen to audio, can't watch video, can't use their own blogs at work.

It's standard practice for many companies to block certain content on their machines.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2007, 11:37 am

No big deal is right
China blocks all kinds of websites to its citizens.

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Post by Doreen Peri » May 19th, 2007, 11:46 am

That's different. Way different.

If this was an article about the US government blocking websites from its citizens, it would be the same, but it's not.

It's about an employer blocking websites from their employees on the employer's servers... while the employees are working.

The employees (the military men and women) are quite welcome to use their own computers on their own time to surf any site on the web they want.

If I were a business owner and found out my employees were watching Youtube videos on my machines while they were supposed to be working for me... while I was paying them a paycheck for their time... i'd probably block it too.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2007, 11:50 am

They are not exactly working a nine to five job
I don't what other ISP's there are available in Iraq other than the military.

This the first time troops in compat can stay in touch with the homefront.

I think that is a threat to the military.
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Post by Doreen Peri » May 19th, 2007, 11:51 am

The other link you posted ... about how the US uses National Guard troops for front line military troops... well that's just way wrong! That makes me sick! That's turning voluntary enlisting in the National Guard unto a draft!

This has been going on a long time and it's absolutely disgusting! Kids sign up thinking they're going to work their way through college and "be home for dinner" like the TV ad says, then find themselves being sent overseas to combat? Arghhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Post by Doreen Peri » May 19th, 2007, 11:52 am

stilltrucking wrote:They are not exactly working a nine to five job
I don't what other ISP's there are available in Iraq other than the military.
Well, that's a point. I don't know about their ISPs either for their own personal computers from the bases they are stationed at.

I see your point.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2007, 1:40 pm

They have not blocked the recruiters from accessing myspace.

Doonesbury has a website called the Sandbox where soldiers are blogging from Iraq. I think that is what this is all about. Not just Doonesbury but the idea of free flow of information. This is the first war where the grunts can communicate and recieve from the home front. The DOD does not like that it seems.
This is closer to what China is doing with their restrictions on web access.

The article says that there is no problem with the band width. This is merely a premptive strike.

I will check it out and see if there is any way for the troops to get on the net except through the military network.




What are they worried about?

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2007, 2:17 pm

I guess I worry too much, apparently there is satellite inernet service available.

http://www.groundcontrol.com/Iraq_Satel ... ternet.htm

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Post by hester_prynne » May 19th, 2007, 2:48 pm

I can understand the concern about this. I mean, I don't know but I'm guessing that up until now they could access those websites?
From that perspective I think it's extremely frightening.
I think it means they are afraid of letting their "employees" see or speak too much truth at this point, and, because the truth is visibly glaring everywhere and hard not to see on these sites in particular. Bandwidth. right. My gut smells another rat. (That smell is getting pretty much familiar these days)

Speaking of this, why is it that people who speak the truth are being labeled as crazy, or extreme? They labeled people who were against the Iraq war from the beginning as "crazy and unpatriotic" Do you see a pattern here?
I feel like there is a subtle clampdown happening and we are just allowing it to pinch off our rights.
Why? Why? WHY????????
Are we mesmerized by the slow minded notion that just because someone, anyone, who is on tv and sitting in a government seat that they must know all? Do we blank out and not hear the lies, the crap? Can we not let anything too "heavy" get in the way of our unrealistic, (and very temporary) comfort zones?
If only there were enough of us, willing to stand up and say no to these lies, then i truly believe we could make truth be able to happen. Am i naive here?
Where is everybody? Why do we sit there, going off on useless diatribes on what is happening, egoist vain lectures on this happened, that happened, he said, she said, he's a girly boy who spent 400 dollars on a haircut ha ha ha..bla fucking bla fucking bla....etc, ad infinitum. Meanwhile, GW and his cronies, along with a useless senate and congress, all whom have sold out, are fucking taking all our rights and twisting them around to suit their needs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who feels this. Am I crazy? Or is this the truth, simply not being said, and not setting us free, and we are ok with that?
ANSWER ME!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
Jesus fucking Christ! Hello!
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Post by eyelidlessness » May 19th, 2007, 3:42 pm

stilltrucking wrote:Speaking of murder...
We don't want the troops to see this on youtube.

The Violence Within

Can you hear those voices? I hear them too. But then I am "naked to the lidless eye"

What else has been blocked? The article did not mention that. Do you tink democracy.org may also be blocked?

All these websites you all go to find the truth.

I think it said 18 sites have been blocked.

Except the recruiters still have access to youtube

But we don't want the troops to see this
Because if I decided that it was worth killing innocent people in another country to get my college degree (I guess getting grants isn't cool anymore), some folk song and a some crazy leftist propaganda is going to change my mind and make me decide to desert.

I didn't say they shouldn't see anything. I said I don't sympathize with cold, heartless murderers who think their personal gain validates their decision to murder.

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Post by stilltrucking » May 19th, 2007, 6:31 pm

it is good you see so clearly eyelidless one
eveything so clear cut
black is black
white is white
good or evil
this is not sarcasm
just envy.
I am old and confused
I envy the clarity of your vision

I wish I knew what to say Hester. I don't think much about "we" as what can "we" do. I think of me, and what can I do? Not much I think. I can vote. I could volunteer, I could write letters to the editor. And I can try to vibrate at the right frequencies to harmonize the universe if that makes any sense.

I hardly ever hear the word decadent anymore. But that is how the political system of the USA seems to me, decadent and corrupt.


I wonder if it is just happening here or is a world wide phenomenon. I am not sure how much my gloom and doom has to do with my age and approaching end.

I suppose I am copping out. I can hardly keep myself together let alone come up with solutions to the world's problems.

I think if I work on myself, try to eat better, exercise, loose weight, stop smoking, get my blood sugar under control etc I will be able to do more to relieve suffering in the world.

Someone just wrote a book about the decadence of the roman empire comparing it to the american empire. But I can't remember the title.

Why why why
I feel like gertrude stein talking to alice toklas
Why what"?

shit

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