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Post by Arcadia » May 22nd, 2007, 1:33 pm

a regalito for jimbo!

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"Tricontinental", realizado con motivo de la Conferencia Tricontinental de La Habana (afro-asiático-americana) from the magazine "Historia de las revoluciones" , Argentina 1973.

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Post by e_dog » May 22nd, 2007, 2:16 pm

was that some kind of international gay pride day?
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Post by Arcadia » May 22nd, 2007, 3:04 pm

mm...yeah, it´s kind-a-festive-thing...! but I guess you have to look at it with seventy´s eyes e-dog...! maybe they watched yellow submarine the day before, who knows!.
I love that magazines!, they are in some way, Life´s other side.

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Post by jimboloco » May 23rd, 2007, 2:31 pm

ho chi minh
psychedelic shades
beyond the rainbows
lo siento mucho
gracias por el regalito
lo acepto
es corecto
perro electronico
hermana argentinista
todo el mundo
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Post by jimboloco » May 23rd, 2007, 2:42 pm

lidless eyes

i got another friend,
hell, he's a zen peacemaker priest
was a door gunner in nam
he says so himself
"I'm a murderer and drug addict"
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claude anshin thomas and walking friend
forgot their names
wow
got to get it m\back
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Post by e_dog » May 24th, 2007, 1:00 pm

jimbo,

i'm curious. what was the old ideologico line for GIs in Vietnam? Like what did the US military teach its soldiers about Ho Chi Minh -- was he given the Saddam (=Hitler) treatment, or what?

guessing he didn't get compared to ole Geo. Washington but what exactly was said? if anything
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Post by Arcadia » May 24th, 2007, 1:22 pm

lo siento mucho
it was not my intention to judge your past jimbo
(just make you smile weird!)
and if it´s true what you say about your present
(I also like the floating internet doubt)
you´re really a kind of heroe for me!

now, answer e-dog´s question, please!

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Post by jimboloco » May 27th, 2007, 7:47 pm

well we were really ignorant about ho chi minh
i was lucky to have attended university of Michigan
so got some basic exposure
and don't exactly know how I learned about uncle Ho
but remember going into a bookstore the year after coming baack
and buying Ho's revolutionary poems translated into Spanish
It was published in Cuba

Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh
the NLF is gonna win
marching chant

I found an old paper I had written while in the Air Force ROTC program at Michigan, ya know the ol party line, why we are in southVietnam, to defeat communism. I got an A. circa 1967-68.
that year the students for democracy, SDS, sat in the front hallway at the ROTC building. I remember wading thru them, dressed in jeans and flight jacket, feeling mature and focussed and ignoring them, taking solace and sanctuary inside the "classroom" where we recieved indoctrination.


of course I ain't thrilled that Presidente Chavez has cancelled the local independent TV Caracas station
I mean I don't like it

I am more of a Buddhist than a Marxist, compadres
viva democracia siempre

even the "heads" or "dopers"
ya know the counter-culture GI's in Nam were not especially political
just wanted out of there knowing that it was absurd and meaningless

the GI coffee houses and the underground GI newspapers had info about Ho, \Vietnam Veterans against the War passed around imagery and info
but by and large he was not seen as the father of Vietnam by the silent majority, slumbering intransigence.
i got another friend,
hell, he's a zen peacemaker priest
was a door gunner in nam
he says so himself
"I'm a murderer and drug addict"
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claude anshin thomas and walking friend
forgot their names
wow
got to get it m\back
http://www.zaltho.org/founder/bio.html
Three Core Tenets of the Zen Peacemaker Order: penetrating the unknown, bearing witness, and healing.

There is no uncle Ho in Iraq
but we continue to demonize the leaders of the Shihites and Iran and Syria.
We need to demonize the neo-cons.
There are some alternative info centers, coffee houses in the states.
I Iraq, mostly staying focussed to stay alive and survive the tour is the way to go.
I know from experience.
The revolution is at home.
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Post by Arcadia » May 28th, 2007, 1:50 pm

thanks for sharing your experience with us!!!

now, define home, please! (I´m joking!)

hope you are bien.

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Post by jimboloco » May 28th, 2007, 2:56 pm

It is harder to rebell if in an overseas war zone
much easier to rebell if at a home base

welcome home
amigas!
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Post by stilltrucking » May 28th, 2007, 11:05 pm

Lightningrod Asked
how do you wish somebody a happy Memorial Day?
htp://www.studioeight.tv/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10137

I was on the verge of tears today
Reading blogs from Iraq veterans…

I caught a few minutes of the Memorial Day services in Arlington today. I studied our ‘decider’s’ face for signs of remorse.


He had his head down looked properly sorrowful. Oh well. I have to bite my tongue here cause you know how irreverent I can be. A day to honor our new dead heroes from … then he rattles off some names of famous battles from Iraq. Our new Flander’s fields. Anwar, Faluja, Basra…
Memorial Day is a pretty pure holiday. I mean it is a flop as a commercial opportunity. Except for maybe Memorial day sales, we shop to support our murdered murderer’s.

A happy thought for memorial day
That day in Morro Bay California that old 1940’s vintage wood hulled trawler the Corregidor sailed out on her way to Ilwaco Washington with me aboard. Memorial Day 1974. I hope you had a good day Jim.






jimbo said
It is harder to rebell if in an overseas war zone
much easier to rebell if at a home base
there was no blogging from Vietnam but the coverage of the news was more objective. You know what a paranoid jewboy I am amigo, I think Cheney dont wants the troops to blog...

lets face it jim

our free press aint so free anymore.
what was theold gag about the press is free if you own one.

They own ours like Chavez owns theirs.

this info highway the best thing we got going these days

what do you think is the real reason for blocking the people in Iraq from access to the internet? Got nothing to do with band width, no way.

You ever here of something called Narus?

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Post by Arcadia » May 29th, 2007, 1:24 pm

no, I didn´t heard about NARUS as NARUS, but I think a total control hipotesis is always weak at some point. Control can never can be total-total, that´s the problem of control.

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Post by jimboloco » May 29th, 2007, 5:31 pm

talk about control, look at ther national media in America and how they joined in with the buildup to the war.
http://warmadeeasythemovie.org/

I got a last birthday present at work, oddly enough somebody thought it was a patriotic present, a glass bucket candleholder and candle, which I used in the candlelight vigil after work!
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It is good to be in your good company, I feel at peace.
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Post by stilltrucking » May 29th, 2007, 5:57 pm

Excerpt from the book
War Made Easy
"We're going to become guilty, in my judgment, of being the greatest threat to the peace of the world. It's an ugly reality, and we Americans don't like to face up to it."...



In the mid-1980s, media scholar Daniel Hallin commented that "the fear of repeating the Vietnam experience showed signs of giving way to a desire to relive it in an idealized form."...

Yet the horrific and continuous air-war component of the Vietnam War had not sufficed to spare American troops the tactical need to fight on the ground, nor did it bring victory. And Americans expect to win – which is a key reason why President George W. Bush had difficulty with Iraq as a campaign issue in 2004. The stream of revelations about prewar lies, turning into a flood with significant political impacts after the invasion phase of the war, would have counted for relatively little if not for (to use Paul Krugman's phrase) "how badly things have gone."...

Failure to "win the peace" is failure to really triumph. For the White House and its domestic allies in the realms of government, media, think tanks and the like, the political problem of war undergoes a shift after the Pentagon goes into action in earnest. Beforehand, it's about making the war seem necessary and practical; if the war does not come to a quick satisfactory resolution, the challenge becomes more managerial so that continuation of the war will seem easier or at least wiser than cutting the blood-soaked Gordian knot....

Advocates for humanitarian causes might see the United States as a place where "madmen lead the blind." But that's a harsh way to describe the situation. Our lack of vision is in the context of a media system that mostly keeps us in the dark.
(emphasis mine)

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Post by jimboloco » May 29th, 2007, 6:01 pm

and yes they loved the weapons of war, happy nazi journalists, scary pseudo dumbocrazy.
peace bro

B-52's suck.
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