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Professor and Preacher Michael Eric Dyson on Hip Hop & P

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Professor and Preacher Michael Eric Dyson on Hip Hop & Politics, Don Imus, the “N”-word, and Bill Cosby

welcome back don imus
they said you were not among us
you came back like the holy ghost
out of the sep·ul·chre transfigurations
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Post by stilltrucking » July 21st, 2007, 7:35 am

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Race: State of Affairs
Music-Infused Political Commentary

Cornel West
Scholar, Professor of Religion. Princeton University
Tuesday, July 17, 2007; 10:30 AM

Cornel West, Ph.D., renowned scholar and professor of religion at Princeton University, was online Tuesday, July 17, at 10:30 a.m. ET to discuss his upcoming socially conscious recording project, "Never Forget: A Journey of Revelations," to be released next month (Hidden Beach Forum, in partnership with "Black Men Who Mean Business") and which explores the issues of race, the use of the "N-word" in popular culture and hip-hop and the current state of the world.

Dr. West provides political commentary alongside a collection of artists including Prince, Andre 3000, Talib Kweli, Jill Scott, Rhymefest, hip-hop legend KRS-One, The Roots' Black Thought, Rah Digga and the late Gerald Levert.
Q:Monroe, Mich.: How do you feel about Michael Eric Dyson's uncompromising defense of hip-hop? Why has the Black intelligentsia endorsed and defended the violent and materialistic culture glorified by hip hop? This is most evident in Dyson's attacks against Bill Cosby's criticism of hip-hop culture.

A: Dr. Cornel West: Brother Mike Eric Dyson does not defend violence, sexism or homophobia in hip-hop. That any reading of his work reveals his critique and rejection of these. He rejects the demonization of hip-hop because he, like myself, knows there are progressive hip-hop artists like Common, Lupe Fiasco, KRS-One and others who are hip-hop to the core but also critical of violence, sexism and homophobia.

Q: Washington, D.C.: What will be the impact of a black man being elected president to the African American community? Also, at the State of Black America you said that people need to know how Obama's campaign is financed to see who is pulling the strings. Given that fact that almost all of his money has come from normal people -- over 250,000 of them so far -- do you think that he is shaping up to actually be a different candidate, an agent of change?




A: Dr. Cornel West: First, it is important to engage in Socratic questioning of all candidates regardless of color or agenda. That's why I raised that question at Tavis Smiley's forum. At the same time I have endorsed Obama because I am convinced that he would not only be a progressive candidate but also he has the potential to be a great statesman. But we all must be part of the process to make him and other politicians accountable.



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Post by jimboloco » July 21st, 2007, 9:47 am

Mr Dyson also states in his interview with Amy Goodman that the word "nigger" originated with whites and was expropriated by blacks to get beyond the negative emotional hurt. He also states that it is OK for blacks to use the N-word amongst themselves as insiders, but is not appropriate for whites to use it, bec ause of the historical precedent started by whites. He says it is absurd for Imus to joke like he is a black brother, given his history of racial, sexist, homophobic slanders in the past.

He also states that of all the black women on that basketball team, only two of them actually had what one could term as "nappy" hair. :P

Anyhow he is the one that said Imus willo rise from the tomb like the holy ghost after three days.

You are right to post C West's admonition to support a genuinly progressive candidate. It would be refreshing to see Obama give Hillatious some real hits in the primaries. It's just that she carries an aura of inevibility with her. We shall see, but if I send any dough to any of the Dumbocrats, it will be someone other than Hillarious.

Jesus, they are now talking about a future presiduncial bid by Condundum Riche. :shock:
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Post by stilltrucking » August 14th, 2007, 9:06 am

Speaking of Imus, I read this bit about Imus comparing Ted Nugent to him.
someone who makes Don Imus look like Alan Alda?
from Texas monthly talks, one of the few PBS shows besides Lawrence Welk that is not lame.

I am going to throw my energy behind Gavel. But I would vote for Obama if he gets it.
Even hillarius
Idon;t like it but I guess things happen that way.

I sure can't see myself voting republican, e-dog keeps saying Juliani
I don't know if he is being cynical or serious or just a realist.

Hey speaking of
you came back like the holy ghost
out of the sep·ul·chre transfigurations
I read a blog about Colin Powell haunting Shrub like Banquo's ghost
the betrayed friend, his aides are starting to speak out, and the neo cons they fear Colin Powell will come back with a story about his murdered reputation.


I'll try to find the link.

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Post by stilltrucking » August 14th, 2007, 1:41 pm

here is a quote from
and link to
the blog I was talking about above

Will the real Colin Powell stand up?
The White House fears that the former secretary of state will finally tell the truth about planning for the Iraq war.
By Sidney Blumenthal


Throughout the excruciating years of his slow destruction, no one served Powell less ably than Powell. To the degree that his abusers and tormentors may be haunted, he is more haunted. Powell's aides are now on the front line of criticism against the administration, while he obviously simmers, pretending to be happily retired. He travels the country delivering motivational speeches, a theater of make-believe, as though he were the same Colin Powell as before Bush. While he preaches his secrets of success, he can see the neoconservative architects of failure in Iraq who demonized him distributed among the leading Republican candidates for president. There is not one among them who does not boast neocon dominance of his foreign policy circle. Powell's absence cedes the political terrain to those who ousted him from office. Notwithstanding his tarnished reputation, he has a final chance to regain his dignity and at least some of his previous standing by stepping forward at the crucial hour. Does he accept his marginalization as permanent? He is Banquo's ghost, but will he make an appearance at Bush's banquet?
Next page: Is Powell secretly writing a memoir?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal ... aq_powell/

some interesting comments
to the article from the drudgereport

Posted by Corky at 2007-08-09 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

nope,

he is a moral coward


Posted by truthhurts at 2007-08-09 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Posted by Georgeisadrunk at 2007-08-09 02:00 PM | Reply | Flag:
Why would such a blatant careerist start now?

Posted by ancientmariner at 2007-08-09 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag:
Yes he will. He is an honorable man

Posted by goatman at 2007-08-09 04:45 PM | Reply | Flag:
token pawn equals honerable man? naaaaaah

Posted by Georgeisadrunk at 2007-08-09 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:
Spud hopes that Colin Powell will come out on the record and state exactly what he thinks went wrong in the pre-war planning fer Iraq, beyond the fact that any such planning took place. Spud lives in hope but Spud is also a realist. Colin Powell and Dick "the disseminator of national secrets" Armitage will more likely use the attention to try and rehabilitate their images a la Tenet.

Good luck wif that sez Spud. Be Well.




http://www.drudge.com/news/97330/colin- ... tell-truth
sorry I rambled off topic

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Post by jimboloco » August 14th, 2007, 4:47 pm

powell helped to try to coverup mylai
got to get the link for that one

his standing up in front of the UN
don't you think he knew what he was doing?
selling info about mobile weapons labs in Iraq?
fictitious nonsense
propogated by insiders who used Iraqi exiles to pose as "sources"

powell knew it was all a sham
fuck him
he will only seek redemption in so far as he may smooth out his ruffled repurtation pure vanity no mas

Ted Nugent is a redneck rocker, right?
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Post by stilltrucking » August 14th, 2007, 7:07 pm

Ted Nugent is a redneck rocker, right?
Ten four. He moved to Texas bought a place in Crawford.

He sings to the rednecks and parties with the fat cats.

About Powell, you probably right. I suppose it is wishful thinking on my part.

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Post by jimboloco » August 18th, 2007, 8:28 am

well macnamara, robert, wrote his memoir about the nam war
he still proposed that disobedience to the government was not ok

i spoke with a retired FBI agent last week
husband of one of my patients in hospital

he said he would not trust george tenant with anything

so maybe some folks will get a clue

the democrats are dumbed down right now
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Post by stilltrucking » August 18th, 2007, 8:49 am

DNC bungled bad when they dropped Gavel

I am still going to put my energy behind old whazzissname

It is a decadent democracy but so was The Weimar Republic in Germany after World One. Considering what the alternative turned out to be, decadence don't seem so bad

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Post by jimboloco » August 20th, 2007, 8:05 am

oh believe me i love hillarious' cleavage
including the folds in her gray matter
she can schmooze with labor and hedge funderz
a weasel
in a mink coat

old mike gravel was at the debate last nite
did not see it
obama about to quit these early debates
they are ganging up on him
edwards is a fluff
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Post by stilltrucking » August 20th, 2007, 11:59 am

another opinion of Edwards on studio eight
John Edwards is clearly that man. Experience, experience, experience.
From The Pregnant Pope
Elections 2008 Lets get Serious

In a way I am more interested in who will get the republican nomination. I missed the debates last night. I am going to try and find a link to them.
Edwards voted for that got damn war. Is that his experience? So did Dodd, Biden, and of course Hilary. I wonder why there is not one senator in the race who voted against the war?

I'm sticking with old whatizzname. I just feel like betting on along shot. I bought a lotto ticket last night. Somebody called the state lotteries a tax on the statistically challenged.

If it came down to haircuts, I like Obama's better than Edward's. I used to spend hours in the bathroom, when I wasn't jacking off I was combing my hair. Edwards may not be a fluff but he cultivates the image. He needs a flannel shirt and a hunting vest maybe.
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Post by tarbaby » August 20th, 2007, 2:35 pm

Sorry jimboloc
I should not try to get serrious about anything when I am into the bitter
herbs.

poor impulse control when it comes
to this compulsive scribbling of mine

I wonder how much a high threshold for humiliation has to do with my scribbling compulsion. I plan on dying from embarasssment anyday now if the cigarettes or something else dont get me first.

I know I get to pick one jim, but there are so many. I am not going to spend all my time trying to decide between the three front runners I want to consider the others too.
I am in the process of checking out gravel.

Denis the menace and Richardson will be my next subjects.

Edwards I just don't know he has so many good positions but he pussy foots on the war too. I think. I got to check that out.


sorry about the sock puppet I am sorry about the compulsive scribbbling all I want to do when I am like this is type and spew forth. verbiage and herbiage I suppose.
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Post by jimboloco » August 28th, 2007, 11:36 am

where is uncle remus when we need him
:?:
hillary's schmoozing
we got to open communication
she do that, tarbaby
she can see things from different perspectives
what seem to be in self-interest in terms of campaigning
could translate, political alchemy, after she is in the east wing
as commander in chieftess


and obama would be the perfect vice-commander in chief
he digs open communication
transparancy
and would inject an ability to grasp whatever golden eggs the goose stepping repukeplickinz might lay, from time to time. Scary.
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