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Post by **stilltrucking** » November 27th, 2007, 6:54 am

Dream On . . .
But Don't Expect Repressed Wishes to Surface Or Your Psyche's Hidden Secrets to Emerge
By Dennis Drabelle
Special to The Washington Post
Tuesday, November 27, 2007; Page HE01

I discovered that I've had the wrong idea about dreams, which turn out to be not so much puzzles to be solved as mirrors to be gazed at.

In any case, it didn't take much delving into the psychological literature to learn that Freud's dream theories have been thoroughly discredited. Subsequent research has failed to support them, and as Peter D. Kramer puts it in "Freud: Inventor of the Modern Mind" (Atlas, 2006), today it would be hard to find "defenders of the view that dreams are minutely and complexly constructed to hide and yet retain evidence of unacceptable beliefs and feelings."

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Post by **e_dog** » November 28th, 2007, 11:09 pm

If You Like That Book, You'll Love:

Freud Denial: Why Contemporary Psychologists Tend To Be Idiots

by Some Pop-Sci Journalist

Also Recommended For You:
This Just In! Economic Science Has Proven Marx Wrong: a review of Why Capitalism Is The Absolute Truth and How We Know This To Be So, by Milton Freedman, reviewed by Bo Jwa Jakacz, Senior Staff Writer for the New York Timez

You cannot "discredit" Freud, you may only discredit yourself by failing to appreciate his genius.

Post by **stilltrucking** » November 30th, 2007, 2:54 am

Right

As if you wanted to talk about freud

Whose penis do you envy?

Post by **e_dog** » November 30th, 2007, 2:12 pm

Why didst Eve consume the serpant's fruit?

Penis envy.

Genetics 2.1 (Rick James version)

Post by **stilltrucking** » November 30th, 2007, 6:36 pm

womb envy
eat a peach

Post by **Artguy** » November 30th, 2007, 11:08 pm

Try Jack Kerouacs' book of dreams...

I take a medication which has a documented side effect of "vivid nightmares"...I wake up often feeling the world has changed....

Post by **stilltrucking** » December 1st, 2007, 8:03 am

if I had a sound track for my dreams last night
it would start with the stones
paint it black
and end with the flying burrito brothers
jesus broke the wild horse in my heart

As I try to write this they are fading fast
you know how it is on waking
wisps of the dreams still lingers
Kerouac always kept a notebook by his bed for his dreams
I run to the computer
but by the time I get here they are nearly gone
A dream is a work of art. Its interpretation is open.

Some dreams are more vivid than others

Starker Traum

I love my dreams, all of them, nightmares included. Kind of like cheap entertainment.

just an after thought but:
One of my favorite bits from On The Road is when he awoke in that hotel by the rail road tracks and could not remember who he was
I have had that experience. It was pleasant. Not frightening at all.

Post by **Artguy** » December 1st, 2007, 1:05 pm

I am not one given to dream recall...but with this medication the dreams are extreme and come back to haunt me all day replaying in my mind like a movie a la Quentin Tarentino...for example...

I am driving on a highway north of here with my family in the car, 2 deers, a buck and a doe jump out in front of us I hit the doe,,,after skidding to a stop... i get out of the car ...the doe is dead the car is a mess my family and I are fine...the buck standing there head down glaring at me then charges me...I end up on his back...riding him...there is suddenly a sheath on my hip with a hunting knife in it, (I have never in my life owned one), I take out the knife and with one swing of my hand holding his antler with my other hand slice his throat decapitating him ...now I'm riding him holding his head in my hands blood spraying from his neck...I turn his head to look him in his dead eyes...the head is no longer the buck's...but that of my Father who passed away 2 1/2 years ago....I wake up in a cold sweat...

Post by **Doreen Peri** » December 1st, 2007, 1:15 pm

OMG... Artguy!!! What a horrible dream! Yikes! Just reading it might give me nightmares...

Post by **judih** » December 1st, 2007, 2:30 pm

vivid dreams are the best.
mine lately are simply slate of hand, ordinary stuff taken to an extreme of chutzpah, or speed, or otherwise freaky unnatural time/space dimensions that dreams are so good at presenting.

Artguy - that's some wild medication you're taking. Good idea to do a dream journal. What a powerful set of images.

Post by **e_dog** » December 1st, 2007, 3:59 pm

vivid dreams can mess with yr reality, ever get drunk and dream of scenes similar to prior evening events, then be unable to tell whichiswhich?

pleasant nightmares, stilltru', can there be such things?

Post by **stilltrucking** » December 2nd, 2007, 1:19 am

Geezus artguy I can't help wondering what the upside of that medication is.

why do people go see scary movies e-dog?
or tragedies for that matter.

Post by **e_dog** » December 2nd, 2007, 2:50 am

Catheters. Thus spake Aristotela.

Post by **stilltrucking** » December 2nd, 2007, 11:53 am

e-dog my parthian cyber pal

the question about

pleasant nightmares, stilltru', can there be such things?

are you refering to my comment about Kerouac not being able to remember his name?

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Post by **e_dog** » December 2nd, 2007, 4:39 pm

I love my dreams, all of them, nightmares included. Kind of like cheap entertainment.

just an after thought but:
One of my favorite bits from On The Road is when he awoke in that hotel by the rail road tracks and could not remember who he was
I have had that experience. It was pleasant. Not frightening at all.

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