Yes. "God", however one would conceive of "God", is a mystery if nothing else. I remember Marksman 45 had some mind-tweaking thoughts on the subject back on the LK boards. I couldn't find the posts I was looking for, but I found these posts, peripherally related, at least... (I hope it's kosher to link to these).
http://www.litkicks.com/msgArchive.php?message=496905
and
http://www.litkicks.com/msgArchive.php?message=520329
and this one too (though it still isn't the one I was looking for-- the archives don't have a search function-- oh well..)...
http://www.litkicks.com/msgArchive.php?message=600261
yeh.. them were some interestin' boards...
note: edited for one more link.
Science v. God
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Science is not an is. (or is-m). Yes. That is its strength, of possibility, allowing for phenomena and forces not previously accounted, and blazing some sort of sun-bound, star-bound trail of investigation. On the trail of "God". And I never said anything about religion.Totenkopf wrote:Science is not an is. Religion isn't is, either. The Sun is.
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As Bertrand Russell said, science is boring.
Give me that old time religion“Science seems to be reaching limits…
“Physical science is thus approaching the stage where it will be complete and therefore uninteresting..." What I Believe, Bertrand Russell
Let us worship Zarathustra, just the way we useta.
I'm a Zarathustra boosta and he's good enough for me.
Let us worship Aphrodite.
She's beautiful but flighty.
She doesn't wear a nightie,
but she's good enough for me.
- Joseph Campbell
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Totenkopf
Gott, assuming for a few nanoseconds that He might be predicated of, would by definition create all physico-chemical laws. Thus He's fond of insects, plagues, natural and human disasters. One would not be remiss in terming Him a bit of a masochist---i.e. the 2nd law of thermodynamics, by which energy tends to dissipate, and stars collapse. So He like self-immolates, all over the universe, routinely. And like at Camp Golgotha (if it real, and not fairytail) doesn't JC already know what is going down??? Yay or nay. So like He created the whole melodrama: when the centurions smash spikes into His hands, he says, yes go ahead--that is what I have ordered................
This I believe.
This I believe.
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Sisyphus is on a roll
Prometheus is chained to a rock
Jesus is nailed to a Cross-
What happens when
The hero with a thousand faces
Shoots craps with Einstein's god
"Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic. " DNA
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that's awesome.
iu'm recording it 'cause stilltru's brilliance tends to erase itself like that path-broom sweeper in disney in wunderlandt.
I don't think 'Therefore, I am.' Therefore, I am.
be it ever so humble, there's no place like...
'Science v. God'... not necessarily a cage-match (fer yer soul).
Besides, science got no soul.... 'Brain imaging illustrates-- in color!-- the physical seat of will and the passions, challenging the religious concept of a soul independent of glands and gristle. Brain chemists track imbalances that could account for the ecstatic states of visionary saints' (Time Magazine, circa 2006 AD). "Track imbalances"... ahh, such a perfect science phrase. Nibblin' around the edge. Science never jammed blues.
There's a thing called consciousness, like an overripe tomato, generally noted and tossed-- a continuum of sorts. Science will try to measure it, plot it, date it, erect it into some groundbreaking edifice. Who said anything about religion? Religion is particles. 'God' is the energy within, between, or let's just suppose. 'Supernatural'? What if 'God' were simply natural? That seems easy enough. It's the moral ramifications that always prove more troubling, it seems.
'Science v. God'... not necessarily a cage-match (fer yer soul).
Besides, science got no soul.... 'Brain imaging illustrates-- in color!-- the physical seat of will and the passions, challenging the religious concept of a soul independent of glands and gristle. Brain chemists track imbalances that could account for the ecstatic states of visionary saints' (Time Magazine, circa 2006 AD). "Track imbalances"... ahh, such a perfect science phrase. Nibblin' around the edge. Science never jammed blues.
There's a thing called consciousness, like an overripe tomato, generally noted and tossed-- a continuum of sorts. Science will try to measure it, plot it, date it, erect it into some groundbreaking edifice. Who said anything about religion? Religion is particles. 'God' is the energy within, between, or let's just suppose. 'Supernatural'? What if 'God' were simply natural? That seems easy enough. It's the moral ramifications that always prove more troubling, it seems.
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stuck between pages two and three
no such post exists
just to kick it over
to the next page
Religion and science go hand and hand
since humans first discovered magic
alchemy lives, marksman believed in it.
so do I now.
science will cut our souls out and pin them to the wall like a butterfly collector.
I liked TK's reply
Like bertrand russell meets Ezra Pound
no such post exists
just to kick it over
to the next page
Religion wired in, religion is the ghost in the meat machineWho said anything about religion? Religion is particles.
Religion and science go hand and hand
since humans first discovered magic
alchemy lives, marksman believed in it.
so do I now.
science will cut our souls out and pin them to the wall like a butterfly collector.
I liked TK's reply
Like bertrand russell meets Ezra Pound
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