Is Poetry Masculine or Feminine?

[mousey1]

Thanks, Lrod.

I am just shy of Libra...edging toward the virgin side!!!

[Lightning Rod]

Thanks, Lrod.

I am just shy of Libra...edging toward the virgin side!!!

my daughter is a virgo
I call her a 'just so' virgo
everything needs to be 'just so'

anyway, Virgo or Libra, you are still a delight
I don't believe in astrology

[Doreen Peri]

I reckon you feel this way because the masculine voice is the voice that speaks to you most profoundly.
You can see the great swinging dick of literature wafting line to line. You fit right in.

Brilliant! And funny too!

Sure, you like pussy, perhaps a gentle voice whispering her sweet nothings
but they are means to your ends
there is no lasting morsel fit for your hungry man meal

More great lines!

I think poetry is for the gentle soul
who grips the pen as hard or soft as all that that day sends
and if you see, if what first hits you in the face
is tits and lower ball-less extremity
you're looking too hard
or not nearly hard enough

Not looking at all, I'd venture to guess.

approach a poem as vehicle
jump in, take the wheel
and drive it off your very own cliff

back seat drivers
tend to miss the scenery
staring at maps and roads ahead

Perfectly stated! You, Ms. Mousey, are one fine poet!

[panta rhei]

mousey, you're great!
!!!

[mnaz]

El Rod, it sounds like you're noting a duality of style or approach, which you dub as "masculine" or "feminine", rather than a literal final tally of the poetic prowess of men vs. women? Or are you somehow going for both? You note that you prefer the mix-it-up "masculine" path vs. a more passive, "wistful" approach, which you dub "feminine" ("poetettes", etc.). By this reckoning, the stuff I've written would fall into both categories. I've lingered in wistful, while traveling and mixing it up. If I remember correctly, you did note that these styles/approaches are not always gender-specific.

Perhaps the main characteristic of poetry is its abundant willingness to be analyzed and broken down in countless ways, but its refusal to be definitively confined, and its sense of the ancient grind and long, long evolution of its own life. Throw a box around that! I'm sure many analysts have divided poetry in this way (T-kopf, for example, if I got his drift). But while breaking down poetry into a M/F dichotomy amounts to another experienced analysis entry, it isn't, and never was necessarily the whole picture.

Could you really tell a woman's writing from a man's? What percentage would you be wrong? Personally, I think human experience is on a logarithmically-accelerating curve in the last 60-70 years especially. Everything's coming to an "apocalyptic" boil... everyone's mixing it up, the population explosion, the dwindling resources and planet rape, the vicious turf wars of ideology, the technology explosion and wiring of the planet, the continued periodic failure of financial systems (root cause: usually greed), the rise of genocide, the materialistic mesmerizations, the angling for better seats in heaven, the messiah complexes and fanaticism... It's almost as if humanity will need a "quantum leap" (cliche alert) in consciousness just to make it through... We certainly have the numbers. What kind of poetry will that inspire?

[mnaz]

Actually, the correct answer to the original question is both. or neither.

[mtmynd]

poets have gender,
poetry does not.

[WIREMAN]

this them vs. us...male vs. female mentality is really beneath the intent of S8 as a creative community....i for one wish it would cease before it's too late....
what year is this??????

[hester_prynne]

Cec, you are simply right. C'est Tout. Fini.

Wireman, you can't expect this thread's subject not to cause defense, age old subject that it is, I agree. This topic is not settled yet though, as illustrated here, old as it is, and that indeed, is a sad reality.
H

[WIREMAN]

I can't blame the defense hest....i'm pissed that it lumps me with an idiotic ideology and to tell you the truth, we need to nip this thing in the bud....

[Doreen Peri]

I agree with Wireman.

It's not healthy for this community.

After reading a list on another thread which states that there have been no great women writers, singers, musicians, architects, etc., I just about fell off my chair.

That, along with crude sexual references that diminish women to sex objects... well it was upsetting to read that.

I felt women were put back centuries with this type of talk.

And I started saying to myself, "I really don't like men. Nothing has changed. It will always be the same."

This isn't healthy.

I don't want to stereotype men and lump them all into one category.

I agree with Wireman.. I hope the topic gets dropped.

2 threads going on for several days? Enough already.

[Lightning Rod]

I'll bet you guys think that Stephen Colbert is really a conservative

see

Jocularity Strap

[Doreen Peri]

Hey didn't you just link to this in the other thread?

this is getting OLD!

cut it out!

Jesus

What the hell do you want?

OK you win. All women have no sense of humor. There have been no great women writers, artists, or musicians.

Women are inferior to men in every way.

OK?

Great.

You've managed to harass the women in this entire community and you don't think you're a manipulator?

LOL.

I'm going to lock the thread.

[judih]

it's just talk. nothing wrong with talk. Gets people awake and/or mad and or/thinking.
just words, people.
what is masculine? louis IV - that wig, those beauty marks, the white tights - lace, all masculine in his time.
feminine? are we amazons or suffragettes or coquettes or biblical heroines or what? who's labelling.
just words
frankly, or should i say francinely, or not, i wish i could just write poetry, who cares what gender it comes from, i want the fire back.

looking for fire - please send x-tra fire this way.

[Doreen Peri]

Yeah. Just words. Right.

Well, I think quite a few people got upset over this discourse. I was hoping the conversation was over.

But Lightning Rod told me in an IM message that those who don't want to talk about it are "cowards" and he said that I was being a "controlling Amazon" by locking the thread.

So... he wins again.

Thread's unlocked.

Go ahead, Lightning Rod.... throw out some more insults to all the women on this site and in the world.

What a great idea for this community! What fun!

Yay! I'm having so much fun!