Pedophilia

[Nazz]

Q. If U chat online in a sexually-explicit way with a 14 year old girl and she gives you her address and you go there with a case of beer and other lubricants, then the joke is on who? If you walk into an obvious trap, is that entrapment? How's that for irony? Is it all staged and packaged for the tee vee? Well maybee. Probablee. Still though...

However, keep in mind that I've already confessed to being satire-challenged. Except for Dave Chappelle. I love that shit, you know, where he pushes some unsuspecting club owner in a wheelchair down the stairs. I bust a gut. It's all about context I suppose.

And Doreen, killing is probably not the answer either, or so I imagine.

[stilltrucking]

I got a sick sense of humor. I did not find it funny. I suppose that is because I identify with the victim not the perp.

But maybe, maybe if, I had been molested by a priest, like benny was I might think it was funny too.

That was a sad story benny. I am glad you got over the experience and are able to joke about it now.

I admire your spunk.

And I envy your youth. My sense of humor is not what it used to be when I was younger.

oh by the way
I never went to Sunday school.

But sometimes I feel so bad for my christian friends who seemed to have such terrible experiences there.

Yes I lied
You know they told me if I kept lying my nose would grow. No wait, they never told me that. That was Pinocchio. I suppose Walt Disney cartoons was as close as I got to Sunday school. Jimmy Cricket still hassles me to this day.

I guess I had a deprived childhood? I can not remember one adult in my family ever telling me that if I was bad I would go to hell and if I was good I would go to heaven.

Never once. Maybe that is why I have grown up to be this way.

Come to think of it I never went to Saturday school either.

Lordy I had a wonderful childhood. Except for the bit about the dead rats and maggots. But even so I had a happy childhood. Or so I choose it to be,

[bennie2]

can I make jokes about the holocaust? if I do, am I making fun of jews? what about the slave trade? or would that be poking fun at uprooted africans?

that "joke" I made was written purely for shock value. say what you will but shock is a great comedic tool. The "punchline" (being caught) was a statement that should shock the reader or listener, it's something that isn't expected, yes? And the shock, in some, causes laughter.

I knew LR would dig it and I also knew that most others who post on this liberal, open minded forum would not find it funny. Some would find it sick.

Doreen, you've professed a love for Carlin. I can't for the life of me figure out what Carlin stuff you listen to if this offends you. Remember Carlin? "rape can be funny."

That said... this is your house and if you don't like this thread you have every right to delete it.

[Doreen Peri]

I never heard Carlin's rape routine before.

I just googled it and read the text. Totally NOT funny.

Shrug.

I like him yeah, for the most part, but that routine was not funny.

Of course, half of comedy is delivery.

But still, having been a rape victim, I wouldn't find that routine funny no matter how he delivered it.

And sorry, Bennie, but I see zero humor in your "joke."

And yeah, if you made a joke about the Holocaust which is similar to this joke, you'd have to say the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that Hitler got caught. Do you think that's funny? I certainly hope not.

I really do have a very good sense of humor but there is such a thing as going over the line.

What's not funny?

Racist jokes are not funny.
Jokes that exploit women are not funny.
Sexual exploitation jokes are not funny.
Spousal abuse jokes are not funny.
Child abuse jokes are not funny.
Animal abuse jokes are not funny.



Etc. ... You get the idea.

[Lightning Rod]

well bennie, you can't say I didn't warn you

about the only thing that I don't find amusing

is people who want to tell you what you can laugh at

[Doreen Peri]

People can laugh at whatever they want. But if it sounds like it's promoting illegal activities which are detrimental to lives, doesn't mean I want to publish it on this website.

I DO realize that was not the intention, of course, and that the intention was humor, but it can be read that way.

Still, I'm not going to delete the thread because in my opinion the way I responded to it was important.



Have a nice day.

[bennie2]

that holocaust joke you made was pretty funny doreen but it was a total rip off of my pedophile joke.

I don't think there is such a thing as going over the line, doreen. I don't really believe that there is a line when it comes to comedy. you see, comedy is a tool to make people laugh and think. Think because it comes at subjects from a different angle, which is why political satire is a very powerful tool in a country(ies) where we have free speech. Of course we don't really have free speech. Some laws prohibit us from saying certain things. But, in the context of a joke I feel that I should and I will say whatever I want. If you don't like it, you, of course, have the right to say so.

Racist jokes are not funny.
Jokes that exploit women are not funny.
Sexual exploitation jokes are not funny.
Spousal abuse jokes are not funny.
Child abuse jokes are not funny.
Animal abuse jokes are not funny.

I disagree with all of those statements, doreen. Comedy isn't safe. Safe comedy sucks actually! That prime time television crap that bovine america sits and watches... that isn't comedy. that's chewing gum. Great comedy is uncomfortable.

LR, yes, I chose to ignore your warning with this one. I'm glad someone liked my silly little joke.

[Doreen Peri]

No, the Holocaust joke was not funny. That's my point.

Whatever. We all have different types of senses of humor, I guess.

Part of the problem is the text. Honestly. Delivery is most of what humor's about.

Tape yourself doing a standup routine and put it up on youtube. Would like to hear this joke.

Maybe I'd find it funny if it wasn't taken out of context. Shrug. I donno.

I don't mean to stifle your right to post your creativity here, bennie. Do your thing. I'm just an outspoken person and I say what I feel.

[Lightning Rod]

bennie, I think I've tried to explain comedy in much this same way several times. You did a precise job of it. And we totally agree. But you knew that.

Irritation is a necessary part of good comedy.

I've never understood why doreen, who is a particularly intelligent woman, would not understand this principle of comedy and would assume that if you even mention the word pedophilia that you are promoting or advocating it. It's just always mystified me. Comedy is the best tool we have for dealing with difficult subjects.

(I knew that you would ignore my warning. As you should.)

[Nazz]

Bennie is right. Comedy isn't safe and 'nice'. It just isn't. The problem with Bennie's joke here is that it's not all that funny even on its own level.

Or is it? It may have more depth than one might initially perceive. What's the definition of 'pedophile'? Is it limited to someone who has committed the actual crimes? Also, consider point of reference. If the comedian is projecting, speaking as if from a pedophile's POV, then yes, of course, the worst thing about pedophilia is getting caught.

Note: My comments above about the 'Predator' show and entrapment were directed more at LR's comments than Bennie's, I suppose.

[Doreen Peri]

It was the punch line that suggested promoting pedophilia. Not the word.

[Doreen Peri]

If the comedian is projecting, speaking as if from a pedophile's POV, then yes, of course, the worst thing about pedophilia is getting caught.

Precisely. Exactly my point.

[Lightning Rod]

I was watching The View the other day (one of my guilty pleasures)

Joy Behar is a good comic. She's fearless and ballsy.

She was talking about performing in front of audiences. She does live comedy too.

She told the story of the bitch in the red hat. She is sitting on the front row. She's not laughing at anything. This was an experience from her early days in comedy.

Why wasn't she laughing? Everybody else was laughing.

Then Joy decided that either she had no sense of humor, she was on the rag, she had other things on her mind or she was just having a bad day.

But after years of performing Joy discovered that there is often someone in the audience who just doesn't get it. She refers to them generically as The Bitch in the Red Hat. "The bitch in the red hat was in the audience again tonight."

My point being that ultimately what is funny is a completely subjective thing.

Doreen thinks that puns are funny. Go figure.

[Doreen Peri]

I guess you are trying to say that I am the Bitch with the Red Hat for this "joke" of Bennie's.

That's funny.

I'm sitting here laughing.

[Lightning Rod]

I guess you are trying to say that I am the Bitch with the Red Hat for this "joke" of Bennie's.

That's funny.

I'm sitting here laughing.

good, I'm glad you are laughing
you are much sexier when you laugh
take off the red hat when you do it