Moby Dick

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Post by e_dog » January 11th, 2005, 11:40 pm

see the movie version instead, if bored by books.

it's titles "The Life Aquatic" or something.
I don't think 'Therefore, I am.' Therefore, I am.

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Post by perezoso » January 11th, 2005, 11:50 pm

Actually, e-pup, it's called Moby Dick...John Huston directed, Greg Peck as Ahab, screenplay by Bradbury..it's muy abridged but not terrible ....the last scenes with the Whale are (substitute adjective for impressive, powerful, cool, dread, gnarly .etc)

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Post by hester_prynne » January 12th, 2005, 12:13 am

Yes but memorization of Moby Prick is hardly the caliber of really reading it. Do you know of the caliber I speak?

I daresay, dahling zoezy, i'd like to really read the thing this time.

Lovies and fuck you too,
Heifster :evil:

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Post by perezoso » January 12th, 2005, 12:22 am

Touched a curve, eh, swerve, uh, Nerve! and such a Nerve it was to touch...

I'm just jokin' Heffter. Sowwy. I'll send you a linkletter for Moby Prick, Inc. What flavor?

as those aged sexy commie-frenchy movies said,

FIN

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Post by e_dog » January 12th, 2005, 12:24 am

FrereMofo writes:
Actually, e-pup, it's called Moby Dick...John Huston directed, Greg Peck as Ahab,
no, actually, i think it's called "The Life Aquatic." Angelica Huston, Bill Murray starring.
I don't think 'Therefore, I am.' Therefore, I am.

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Post by perezoso » January 12th, 2005, 12:35 am

I wouldn't cough up any shekels to see any Ho-wood movie made in the last 20 years ( unless required by la putain du jour) ...

Thus, it's called Moby Dick: check it out for a decent movie prior to the Age of Celebrity.....

Anyone for 24/7 Strangelove-a- thon?

ho-wood movies cater to the great masses of yankee blackshirts

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Post by hester_prynne » January 12th, 2005, 12:36 am

I knew you were kidding Perzeedoatsie. (OK, Well, I hoped.)

Indeed, it touched me tenderheart noives being referred to in bovine terms as such.

The fear of chastizing you, however, was reduced at the thought of hearing you confirm that your jest of me, was in fact, in jest.

I'm delirious now,
cartwheels all around!
H

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Post by perezoso » January 12th, 2005, 12:59 am

Madame Bovinely by Gusty Flabburt does flappen to be a flavorite!

I enjoy the Scarlet A- and Nate Hackthorne as well, Huster....Huckthorne had a clear, if a bit sweet style and was not a happy camper rilly....

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » January 12th, 2005, 1:18 am

"Moby Dick" ( or more formally, Richard Moby) is "a book boiled in hell-fire . . ." and not for sissies, once it starts getting to you.

It shouldn't be read before age fifty. But until you're past fifty you don't know that, so go ahead.

Nat Hawthorne was Herm's close buddy, and they probably understood each other's motives as well as books when they took their cigars and brandy far from the virtuous Sophia, Hawthorne's wife.

Oddly, I never taught The Big White One during my alleged career as a pedant, though I taught Ulysses, Tom Jones, most all of Big Bill ( the biggest), Our Mutual Friend, Bleak House and Great Expectations.

For teaching Bill and Chuck instead of "I Know Why the Purple Color Sings", I became a faculty problem, whose lowered consciousness was the cause of Lowered Self-Esteem (LSE-- not LSD) among the students.

So my ill-starred advice is worth nothing to you but here it is:

No matter whether you're reading "Gravity's Rainbow", "Mason and Dixon" ( both masterpieces), "Ulysses", "Moby Dick" or Barbara Walters' analysis of Kant, READ the damn book and don't read about it.

Stay away from educated opinions until you've let the book wrestle you to the ground a few times.

Like Virginia Woolf said, come to the book on its terms, not on your terms, once in a while.

Just don't fill up your sweater pockets with rocks and go swimming.


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Post by e_dog » January 12th, 2005, 5:20 am

like, say, read Socrates himself, not some jive ass mofo calld Plato -- uh, but , wait -- culture

ist culture no mmatter where

it

come from

second hand or

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Post by Zlatko Waterman » January 12th, 2005, 9:59 am

One can't read Jesus directly either, and look at the trouble that has caused . . .


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Post by bohonato » January 12th, 2005, 11:00 am

So far, it would seem that some people have grossly exaggerated the boring level of Moby Dick.

I started out, and still am, attempting to read it without any preconcieved ideas.

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Post by Arcadia » January 19th, 2005, 12:05 am

I found Moby Dick great.
I also read Ray Bradbury´s "Green shadows, white whale". This book is very boring: a mix of a tedious Ireland tourist guide, mesmerism plus a sample of John Houston peculiar sense of humor.

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Post by bohonato » January 25th, 2005, 6:22 pm

So, guess what I finished today?

If your answer was Moby Dick, then you were correct. Herman Melville does indeed enjoy rambling on, but I liked it nonetheless. I even laughed out loud, which I don't normally do with any book (yeah, it was the coffin/buoy). Now, it is on to Alice in Wonderland and Lord of the Flies. After that, The Brothers Karamazov.

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Post by singlemalt » January 25th, 2005, 10:00 pm

hey boho:

I read Alice in Wonderland a few months ago. I don't think I ever read it as a kid. If you don't have the Norton Critical Edition, I would recommend it. It has essays and articles about the book, Lewis Carroll, etc. I thought it was ok. Not great, but a wild ride.

I've also been staring at The Brothers K on my shelf for a while and hope to crack it. . . someday.

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