cecil rant: trust not in any absolutism

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cecil rant: trust not in any absolutism

Post by mtmynd » October 20th, 2008, 2:40 pm

trust not in any absolutism

as oil prices continue to drop so does interest in alternative fuel, gas-saving cars, ethanol or any other means of reducing the oil glut of the world. cost and common sense again come to a clash with cost winning out. good for the wealthy that have interest in oil and energy as anything alternative is a financial threat for those interests, the public be damned.

the current republican rant, 'socialism', is a wonderful scare word, isn't' it? another way to corral the people's thinking into the little cubicles big business is fond of using for it's workforce... minimize socializing... another way to reduce the dreaded
socialism. forget our public schools, our wonderful national parks, including state parks and city parks nationwide and include our hiways, freeways and all other asphalt roadways and while i'm at it even the military are all social programs, i.e. 'socialism.' gads!

things are spinning outta control. recently i've heard that the schools systems in dallas, texas have had to lay-off 300 or more teachers because there isn't enough money to pay them. this sort of budgetary madness is going on nationally with reductions rampant in all sectors of society. whether this will continue on into and thru 2009 is anyone's guess. but something is certainly happening, and we don't know what it is, do we mr. jones?

like i've proclaimed in various posts here and there, it all seems to point to a very troublesome time for capitalism... more-so hyper-capitalism. our excesses on all fronts from private to public, from corporate to governments have gone ballistic and the payment due is now being presented to all of us. whether there is any realistic way for our country can payoff such an enormous debt load appears realistically to be damn near impossible, especially given the fact that there are so many layoffs happening and may very well well happen in the near future. where will john q. get the money to pay the debt? magic can be ruled out, especially with numbers. wall street and it's cronies tried to play tricks with numbers and the game finally crumbled.

numbers are exact. there's no fudging the truth of numbers without a catastrophic result. when capitalism relies on money and it's flow as capitalism does, this is a number game, pure and simple. if we are reliant on capitalism as the only way to assure success for it's followers, it does follow that we must not play games with numbers. again, numbers are pure and exact, as our capitalist ways must be. if we do not trust in the absolute accuracy of numbers, to include money, we cannot put absolute trust in capitalism.

i think it's fair to say that there is an absolute need to accept the balance of capitalism and socialism for any government to work cohesively, as a smoothly functioning organism... some levels of capitalism working with equal amounts of a socialism both beneficial to the society to which it serves.

the strict idiocy of the republican conservative theory is so rigid in it's belief that only the private sector and only the privately held corporate wealth can benefit only those that believe such ideas leave far too many out of the system, which only weakens the overall health of the country.

perhaps our country may have to bend it's rules to explore more closely this yin/yang proposition, after all it really isn't so foreign given the history of the 20th century where a social welfare had to be implemented to assist our populace during the 30's, as an example.

any government cannot have it either one way or the other, in this case capitalism or socialism, with administering such strict and rigid controls that freedom becomes jeopardized. absolutism is not the answer. either or is not an option. yin/yang in this case is just as valid as yin/yang in any other scenario - it is truth, as an absolute truth as numbers.

[to be continued at some later date...]


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Post by tinkerjack » October 21st, 2008, 7:30 am

I am done with it
Voted early yesterday
now I can blow up my tv

I don't know what I trust in cecil.
Isn't that like asking me what I believe in?
I still believe in human nature I suppose.

my favorite absolutism is vodka .
Chorus:
I used to sleep at the foot of Old Glory
And awake in the dawn's early light
...
~Jprine






Bork said that anyone who was not a a socialist when they were young does not have a heart. And anyone over the age of forty who is still a socialist does not have a brain.

I know less about ecconomics than John McCain. I am an idiot about money.

the only ism I struggle with anymore is christion[sic and sick] zionisms

which is an abomination to me.
I love the sound of that word
ABOMINATION
it's got such a rock and roll sound to it
makes me want to dance
with "the abomination on the mountain tops"

and I am still sturggling with Judaism and racism.

other than that I am happy as a clam, and just as broke, I had to borrow five hundred bucks from my home boy. That hurt, he can never say no but I could tell he was not too pleased with my ner do well ways and means.

Well I guess I ma still taking that first step towards right livihood, been a thousand and one first steps for me so far.



Speaking of trust, I read that the banks don't even trust each other anymore.

A wake up call for me about money
I have always been a kid giving it all away

From now on I am going to try and "Keep A Dollar In My Pocket"

I am going to buy a life insurance policy to cover my "final expenses" don't want to stick homeboy with that.



oh yes
I got one more avocado sung to the tune of an Allman Brothers song.
and
that's my ranting and raving for today
I hope
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Post by Arcadia » October 21st, 2008, 8:57 am

we are in strike today because teachers were hit in the autonomous city of Buenos Aires (?) by the police. They were trying to install a tent with the purpose to protest against the government salaries. It´s crazy... we had bulls & cows protestesting for months in the ways they wanted and now the teachers are the ones that are hit? damn...! :evil: :roll:

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Post by stilltrucking » October 21st, 2008, 9:07 am

I am sorry to hear that.

I read somewhere that this mess here is going to hit you all down there hard. I am sorry about that too.




When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert...

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

slouching towards washingotn dc.
We are Palin around with Christian Terrorists and errorists up here.
What troubles me is the beast slouching towards Washington DC.
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Post by Arcadia » October 21st, 2008, 9:19 am

I read somewhere that this mess here is going to hit you all down there hard. I am sorry about that too.

thanks for your condolences, s-t!. We were hit here since I have memory, sure we will be re-hit!! :roll: :lol: now, I´ll continue working in the garden! :wink:

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Post by mtmynd » October 21st, 2008, 12:29 pm

i used to think money was for spending... still do, but now i think i'd better think about spending first before i spend it away... something i should've done years ago but it didn't matter then as much as it does now. but even back then i made sure i never spent more than half of what i had when money got low - $12? don't spend more than 6... $6? no more than 3 and so on ... but no regrets ... i hate those regrets that stall in me head and rot my thinking. thank goodness for mental enemas.

Arcadia... same old south american problems = dinero. it's the same everywhere and it doesn't make much sense, does it? if we all need things to make living a better situation why does money interfere with the flow when money is supposed to be 'currency', i.e. the currents of trade that make the world move. it's cheating numbers at its worst... if governments didn't cheat on the numbers of finance things would be much better... that and greed. quisas greed and cheating estan familia, si?

i have often pondered what the result would be if all the governments, national and regional... said "there is no more debt." if all debt was forgiven and we all began at the beginning with what we all have right now, how would that affect us all. can you imagine all the people in the world were given everything they own with no more debt, how that would make everyone rejoice? you keep what you have and they keep what they have and governments worldwide were all suddenly debt free... where would we all like to go?

john lennon vs. lenin... age old stuff... dreams and imaginings to make our world a better one... like all the creatures great and small owe nothing to nobody but the joy of living. ahh...

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Post by Arcadia » October 21st, 2008, 8:29 pm

dinero mmm... it´s at the same time more concret and more abstract than that! :roll:

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Post by mtmynd » October 21st, 2008, 8:58 pm

Hi, 'V'... I used 'dinero' only because you had written "(teachers) were trying to install a tent with the purpose to protest against the government salaries."

Was the problem not with salaries or was that only a small part of a greater problem?

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Post by Arcadia » October 21st, 2008, 9:17 pm

salaries, most of the time & basically are a problem, not only for teachers.

yeah, what´s money?

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Post by mtmynd » October 21st, 2008, 9:35 pm

money is an abstract that we all need to oil our lives, i guess... :roll:

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Post by Arcadia » October 22nd, 2008, 11:40 am

:lol: maybe...!

(the teachers also protested because the lessen of scholarships for students and because the lessen of food for comedores escolares thanks to Mr. Macri & friends)

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