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Post by Lightning Rod » February 16th, 2005, 2:35 pm

Michael Jackson was a child star. That could be classified as a form of abuse. Abuse is perpetuated from generation to generation we are told by quack psychologists. So now Jacko goes on trial because he likes little children. We don't know if he puts his hands where they don't belong or not. Only he knows that.

We first saw MJ as the cherubic little black boy with his line of brothers behind him. He had a great mahaghony color and his nose was spread all over his face as is native to his race. And yeah, now he looks like the Phantom of the Opera because of an excess of cosmetic surgery, but that doesn't make him a pedophile.

We Americans revel in the excesses of our celebrities. Michael Jackson is nothing if not a social icon. American culture loves its wierdos. They love to hear that Howard Hughes, probably the richest man in the world, died as a hermit recluse drug addict with inch long fingernails. If Liberace wants to be flamingly gay and cover his piano with rhindstones and ride onto the stage in a pink convertible, we applaud it. If Elvis takes more drugs than Satan and puts shoe polish on his hair and wears jump-suits with forty pound belt buckles and gives away Cadillacs, we call him The King. You can't check out at the grocery store without being flashed with magazine covers documenting the excesses of our celebs. This one is too fat, or these two are breaking up, or that one has entered rehab for drugs, gambling or sex addiction.

We love it when our icons crack up and display the same human foibles that we share. We delight in the spectacle of a public life that is cursed by riches or beauty or fame.

I could imagine fucking Paris Hilton, but I couldn't imagine BEING Paris Hilton. She is a total creature of the media. She reminds me subtly of John-John Kennedy or Prince William. They all have the same talent--being born into fortune and beauty.

If you thought that the OJ trial was fun, just wait for the Michael Jackson trial. It will be a star-studded show, a six month mini-series. They ought to sell tickets. Liz Taylor will be there and Maury Povich and a slew of celebs that will surely give a new dimension to the term 'character witnesses.' When the defense trots out Deepak Chopra, what is the prosecution going to do but hire Dr. Phil?

So, Michael Jackson is pre-occupied with young boys. The orthodoxy is that since he missed his childhood, he is trying to regain it by developing relationships with juveniles. You've heard all the jokes. "If Michael Jackson touches one more little boy, they will have to give him his own parish"...etc. It's going to be an uphill battle for Jackson.

I think Michael should get Quincy Jones (Where is Johnny Cochran?) as his lawyer. If you want to do a show, you need a producer.

There is a different standard of justice for the famous. It shows how flawed and tawdry our criminal justice system is. There is one standard if the cameras are in the room and quite another if you are just a pedestrian caught up in the process.

OJ plays golf today and DeLorean is clipping his coupons, because they could hire the best defense lawyers. DeLorean spent four million dollars on his. When I was on trial for getting too creative with my chemistry set, there was only one snoozing reporter in the courtroom, one drunken lawyer, and I was railroaded for thirty-five years. But then, I wasn't a celebrity.

We have two justice systems in this country. One is for high profile cases like Martha Stewart's or Michael Jackson's, and there is quite another one for the rest of us. While celebrities and the wealthy have dream teams of attorneys and trials that go on for months, most of us are subject to a system where we are underrepresented and shuffled through as quickly as possible.

The Poet's Eye wouldn't miss the Michael Jackson trial. It will be a kitch show of fab, glam and legal pornography. It will show us yet again what a farce our legal system is. America is the land of opportunity where you can have all the justice you can afford.



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Post by jimboloco » February 16th, 2005, 4:11 pm

The plain black folk don't wanna see
moonwalkin Mike get busted

We worry about the wrong things.
Glad youre a free man.

Today my lips are red like Mikey's.
Why I called in cold sores
an cancer patients
don't mix, so

Bohemian for another
day
Friday I am
de boss.
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Post by Glorious Amok » February 16th, 2005, 4:30 pm

every pore in my body tells me that this man is guilty.

i have seen the photos of his closet-built-within-the-closet, the one that locks from the inside, i have seen the photos of nameless little boys that randomly decorate his house, and every blood cell in my body tells me that this freak did it, and has done it, many times before this.

they say his computer was covered in child pornography, and they're using child porn magazines in this trial that were seized from his house the last time all this happened. only now, they bear the fingerprints of both the kid making the charges, and the king of pop himself.

mr. jackson, you are going DOWN and i don't mean on your houseguests.
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Post by Doreen Peri » February 16th, 2005, 4:35 pm

I agree with you totally, oGloriousOne!

You know what I suspect, though?

He'll walk, just like OJ walked and that dude was guiltier than sin .... he slaughtered his wife and there was AMPLE evidence. Nobody else could have killed her other than him. I wish I were sitting on the jury.

Why did he walk? Money.

And the same will happen with Jackson. How sad is that? What does that say about our judicial system?

:(

I hate sexual child abuse with a passion!

I'd like to see every adult human being who has abused a child sexually be shot in the head.

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Post by Dave The Dov » February 16th, 2005, 6:25 pm

You think that's freaky you should see the painting he has of himself. Where it shows him leading a bunch of children in a Mao Tse Tung kind of way. Now that's FREAAAAAKY!!!!

http://www.neverland-valley.com/



Hey LR check this out!!!!

http://news.softpedia.com/images/news/5961_1.jpg
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Post by jimboloco » February 16th, 2005, 8:26 pm

Dave could you post the exact url with that pied piper image.?
I am left with a huge contents page and can't spot your reference.

As far as finding child porn on his fridge, well that would be a kicker, any direct connection to child porn.

Are u sure about this?
If true. justice would be called for, altho it is more likely that he'd be labeled a sex predator and monitered closely theereafter.
The question that would tyhen be unanswered, the sociological
phenomenon of parents and their kidz weaving a trail thru Neverland.
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Post by knip » February 20th, 2005, 10:17 am

i too, feel jackson is guilty, but i don't KNOW...i felt oj was guilty, but didn't KNOW...i still feel he was guilty though

i did not feel kobe was guilty of anything other than infidelity

i felt martha was guilty



but what do i know? i won't follow the trial...much, anyway...it's just going to be such a huge waste of time it isn't worth it...my dad follows the inquiry into a scandal we have going on up here in canuckia religiously...but then again, he's 74 years young, runs a seasonal company (landscaping/nursery), has the spare time, and doesn't know how to operate a computer...so i guess he can do what he wants

the fact that there are different levels of justice is nothing new...not saying it isn't a shame...just saying it's nothing new...if mj is guilty then i want them to put the time and effort into sending him away and beating the high-priced lawyers...as for martha, they probably could have spent the time fixing other parts of the legal system...


if this is a poet's eye piece, lr...a couple spelling errors:

rhindstone = rhinestone
mahagony = mahogany
wierdos = weirdos

also, i think that "She is a total creature of the media" sounds too 'valley-girlish'...i would change the word 'totally' to something else

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Post by Glorious Amok » February 26th, 2005, 11:12 am

Marlon Brando on Michael Jackson
Angela Baldassarre

When he was alive, Hollywood actor Marlon Brando often wondered what Michael Jackson did with the kids on his Neverland Ranch.

Brando was very disturbed by Jackson's behaviour with children, said cooks Philippe and Stella LeMarque in a taped 1993 interview. The married couple worked at the Neverland Ranch for 10 months between 1991 and 1992.

"The only one who ever said something was Marlon Brando," the New York Daily News quoted Stella LeMarque as telling freelance investigator Paul Barresi.

"He was the only one. ... He said, 'What the hell is Michael doing with those kids?' He would come to the ranch and always see Michael playing, and disappear with the children. Michael would never spend time with the adults who came to the ranch," she added.

Barresi quit working for Jackson's defense team in the original molestation case, which was settled for a reported $15.3 million in January 1994.

The LeMarque tape has been lying with the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office since then. The tape has now been sent to the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Office, which is gathering evidence for the trial that is scheduled for this week.

Philippe LeMarque, whose statement can prove Jackson's crime, declines to comment on Brando now. "I can't talk to you; I'm under the gag order," the New York Daily News quoted Phillip as saying.
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Post by Lightning Rod » February 26th, 2005, 12:03 pm

knip--your hints and corrections are always helpful. Thanks

GA--

Feb. 25, 2005 -- On the eve of trial, a mystery witness has emerged in the Michael Jackson case and will be deposed by both the prosecution and defense in a rare weekend session at noon Saturday in Los Angeles.

ABC News has been told exclusively by sources in the case that the witness is a paralegal who worked for the attorney representing the accuser's mother when their family sued JC Penney and won a $137,500 settlement in October 2001.

These sources say the paralegal has claimed to the Jackson defense team that Jane Doe, as the accuser's mother is known in court papers to protect her son's anonymity, lied under oath and fabricated the charges against JC Penney security guards.

According to these sources, the paralegal has alleged to the defense team that the bruises Jane Doe said were inflicted by the guards were actually perpetrated by someone else.

And, they say, the paralegal claimed to the defense team that Jane Doe told her she coached her son to lie during his deposition against JC Penney.

The defense said today in open court the mystery witness speaks directly to the heart of this case. The defense said that the witness will testify that Jane Doe lied under oath during a civil case, and lied for money.

A source close to Jane Doe tells ABC News that she will vehemently deny any allegation that she lied or fabricated evidence in any way in the JC Penney case.

Superior Court Judge Rodney S. Melville said he would review the deposition on Monday morning before opening statements in the trial. Jackson, 46, is accused of molesting a cancer patient at his Neverland ranch and plying the boy, who was then 13, with alcohol. The singer has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCent ... 585&page=1
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Post by Lightning Rod » February 26th, 2005, 12:40 pm

This is why the Jackson case makes no sense to me.

There is something that doesn't add up. It is well documented that Michael Jackson is fixated with children, and especially little boys. It is easy to imagine him as some Svengali-like character who is drugging and hypnotizing little boys for his own sexual pleasure.

But this theory makes no sense. If Jacko was a die-hard pedophile, he has more money than god and he could always go to Bancock (sic) or Cairo or Tangiers and have all the little boys he could butt-fuck, and do it with impunity. Why would he risk his fortune and liberty by doing such things in his own home? For that matter, he could send his body guards down to Sunset Blvd. to pick up thirteen year old boy prostitutes that would just take the money and shut up.

When I was a child, I slept and took baths with my grandfather. When I told doreen about this, she thought it was creepy. But it wasn't creepy. My grandfather was a large man. Until I was perhaps five years old we would take baths together. I would sit on his belly and lather up his hairy chest with soap and play and make shapes with the suds. Yes, we were naked in a bathtub together, but there was never anything remotely sexual about this. It was just closeness. These days we would both be tried as adults for sex crimes.

It's sad when people can't express love without being suspect of sexual misbehavior. I think Jackson just loves kids. If I caught him with his hand down my son's pants I would shoot him on the spot, but I'm not ready to condemn him yet.
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Post by Glorious Amok » March 1st, 2005, 11:08 am

i disagree completely. it's essential that the court know the difference between closeness and seduction.

jackson is on trial because he's not interested in sexually experienced prostitutes, he's interested in coercing sexual favours from a child, he's interested in instigating that sexuality. i think it wouldn't be as fun for him if the kid knew what he was doing.

if your grandfather gave you liquor before you were 5, and told you had to "be a man and drink", then showed you gay pornography, and then got in the bath with you.... that might be something different. but even if he did all of that and still didn't try to perform sexual acts on you, he would still be innocent of any sex crime.

and i think he does it in his own home because pedophiles really believe that man/boy love is an intimate, beautiful experience... he's hoping for a spousal type relationship, a boyfriend, to love the boy inside himself. the relationship must have privacy, respect, and dignity in his eyes, it's just that his understanding of privacy, respect and dignity are all fucked up.
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Post by hester_prynne » March 1st, 2005, 10:21 pm

For God's sakes people these guys are criminals, guilty as sin.

You know, I've asked many people why men do this kind of stuff to their own species. Jackson, catholic priests, o.j., etc etc etc., taking advantage of people way way weaker than them.
The reply?
"because they can".

Indeed, this is so and we all know it. They are guilty of these crimes, and pardoned easily, by the justice system, and by the public.
Jackson has his fantasy going. He thinks he's not doing anything wrong, he thinks he's doing something powerfully good. What's a matter with a little peepee play for all his goodness and boyishness, and blessings to the less fortunate? huh? Christ, he was only trying to help.
:roll:
And of course Knip is right about Kobe. "It was only an infidelity."
Some bitch just crying rape to get some money of course. Why do women do that all the time? Poor Kobe. Poor poor Kobe.
:roll:
Shrug.
If you haven't been unfaithful to someone man, then you are a weirdo!
Heh.

Interesting though, how Susan Letourneau was convicted, paid her debt in jail, is now out, and marrying the student she molested, now that he is of consenting age!
Tell me, what's that all about? Maybe she really did love him after all. Maybe she was the most innocent of all. But she, went to jail.

All of it, just blows my mind. It's a cheap carnival, the more money, the cheaper and dirtier you can be.

meanwhile do not forget for a minute that you'll go to jail yourself, for committing a much lesser crime.
Don't let these guys getting away with it fool you for a minute.
They are more entitled to commit crimes and don't you forget it!
I mean priests, and big stars, and football heros, they deserve leniency, they are of a different and more forgiveable "breed" than the rest of us. When they commit heinous crimes, it's different. It's not as bad as, well, as when someone like you commits the same crime.
Yup.
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Heh.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: .....ad infinitum.....

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Post by jimboloco » March 2nd, 2005, 9:52 am

Oh and don't forget Governerd Jeb (Bush)
and his daughter's cocaine episodes and
how she went into rehab oh yeah
no jail for HER!
.
I made a post into LitLicks'a poetry and politics board one time
and this right-winger hit me with,
well ya know, "LIFE'S NOT FAIR!"

as if to excuse it...why just Monday at work
my sweet Republixkan co-worker, messianic Christian-
, said, "You know, there have always been wars...."

duh?
so you vote for Bush?

OK, do I get it?
Nope. She needs de=programming!!!!!

Yeah, Michael thinks he's a sweetie, even waves from his hospital window,
insulated from the drama that passed as
another family lost their sweet goodbyes
with granmama
shuffled off.
for Michael.

I have a friend.
She is a Catholic nun.
Hospice pastoral care.
President of Pax Christi
Tampa yah!
She hugged me yesterday.
Yah! Sister Elizabeth.

Oh but the dude is Father Ken,
at least he is a clown,
no doubt, despite their inconsistencies,
they do good work and
I will stay with them,
so I told Eliz, "I believe in a universal God."
a little peep for the pope's un-dominion,
creeping savois.
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Post by knip » March 2nd, 2005, 11:19 am

i was fully aware of the misperceptions and dangers of doing it, but i took showers with both my kids (son and daughter) until they were about 11 or 12

my best buddy's wife breast-fed her kids until 3 or 4...they still sleep with some of them occasionally, and didn't stop until their 13th or 14th year

my buddy and i and our partners all have very close relationships with our kids...not saying showering and sleeping with them is the reason, part it's all part of an approach that downplays the sexual nature of our bodies and promotes the naturalness of them, within the context of the family

MJ's kids are not his family...now i have no idea what he was up to, but the weidness surrounding some of the events are not examples of familial weirdness...they're just weirdness

and i'm not talking about his facial reconstruction, light voice, or other things, either...i'm talking about the weirdness with kids who were part of other families...but the other parents must be pretty weird, too, to let this happen?

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Post by sooZen » March 2nd, 2005, 7:48 pm

Well...I have to agree with you LRod...

I don't think Mike is guilty and I have plenty of reasons but it is going to be difficult for him to walk as playing with children is a more treasonous crime than murdering one's wife.

Mike is an all time wierdo, makes Howard Hughes seem tame by comparison so his appearance and appearances will taint him.

All of the gossip and rumors are not helping him either. The referred to child porn it seems is just 'tittie' porn and the kid looked at the book in the grand jury room so of course, his pawprints are on it. (fingerprints were not taken before this testimony.)

He (Michael) didn't want to grow up...tough luck on that score. All of the kindnesses and compassions that he has shown to children worldwide down the drain...

Dor...your statement about shooting all child sexual abusers in the head...do you know that they are hard wired that way? (And I am not referring to Mike here, as I believe he is innocent) but I know a friend (a psych doc) that worked with abusers...shoot them in the head? Whoa! That's a heavy statement and I don't think shooting them all in the head is an answer. Good thing we don't have shootin's and hangin's anymore or you would be riding outta town with the vigilantes. :wink:

My grandmother married at 15 which was perfectly acceptable in her day. Also, certain Native tribal customs have elder men and women that initiate prepubesent children to the ways of and what to expect in adulthood, including sex and this still goes on to this day. It is a question of mores and social strictures and what is deemed acceptable or not within a society. Our society is very uptight about anything sexual and hence leaves our children very vunerable to sexual predators. WE don't talk to our children about sex and we hide our fantasies out of their reach. If we all walked around nekid we could eliminate the problem. You'd think that Janet Jackson had sprayed the crowd at the superbowl with machine gun fire instead of giving us a peek at her breast. Breasts are for children anyway. Hah!

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